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Post by mango on Aug 27, 2017 0:32:06 GMT -5
aye so I have a legitimate question please don't think I'm trolling with this:
how is it to be pagan for you all? like. how many of you really believe in this? how many of you sort of ~converted~ into it? How many of you follow this as a trend? Do any of you particularly dislike christianity or atheism?
I'm honestly just curious about how people can still be pagan today. like, I know that sounds maybe ignorant of me, but I'm being real here. I'm not coming from a place of ridicule or anything. like I genuinely want to understand the thoughts and feelings behind the followers here. because there's such a controversy today over christianity and atheism. and like, I know there's more religions than that out there, like Islam and stuff. but maybe I guess I just see so much trendy pagan crap that I'm not informed about the ACTUal side of paganism and why there are people who really follow it or just do it for trend.
I'm sorry its late and I'm tired but I'm curious I want to talk to you guys for real. like have a real discussion here
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Aug 27, 2017 0:50:04 GMT -5
@mangocreator
First off, welcome to the forums.
Second of all, I'm not a Pagan or a witch, so it'd be hard for me to explain, but I've always been interested in Paganism and witchcraft in general, though I was raised Catholic, so I was taught to believe this was Santanic. Despite this, my interest in it didn't waver, although I was reluctant to do any further research on it until recently as well as some media portraying witches in a more positive (though at times inaccurate) light, like Sabrina.
It was also about this time where I began to question my own beliefs and I've always been more fascinated with other religions anyway. A God so loving, yet one who also punishes wrongdoers so harshly? Burning in Hell for all eternity seems a bit excessive. Don't get me wrong—I still believe in God and I love reading the stories in the Bible (my favorite has always been the Book of Esther), but His portrayal especially in the Old Testament is a bit contradictory if you ask me. And, dare I say, perhaps even hypocritical. This is just what I think though. And don't even get me started on the religious fanatics as well as common Bible misinterpretations. There's a reason why I want to learn Ancient Hebrew someday.
Long story short, I'm not against God or anyone who believes in Him, I just personally no longer feel attached to my religion and I've even considered of just leaving the Catholic church, but for some reason, I still feel compelled to stay. I don't even know why.
I think another reason why I've grown so reluctant to practice witchcraft is due to fear of getting messing up as well as disapproval from family members, particularly my grandmother. The woman raised me, but she isn't very open minded. When I told her I was questioning my sexuality, she said she'd rather drink poison than live with the fact that I might be anything other than straight. When I told her I was interested in practicing witchcraft (though not necessarily leaving the church), she was against that as well.
And it's funny considering that Catholicism and Paganism do share a few similarities, and then there's a religion that's called Santería which three of my aunts and I think a cousin are/were a part of, which is an Afro-Caribbean religion based on Yoruba beliefs and traditions, with some Roman Catholic elements. Also, apparantly one of my uncles can read tarot cards and I recently bought a deck for myself.
As far as beliefs go, like I said, I still believe in God, but I also believe that other religions may have had a point in their beliefs as well and the afterlife is just divided into different sections in accordance to said religion. However, I'm also a believer in science as well.
But yeah, that's pretty much my story and I hope that made sense on my part.
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Post by mango on Aug 27, 2017 0:57:50 GMT -5
thats interesting thanks for your response. so you're just in a position of curiosity and exploration? and so my understanding of witchcraft is not very broad at all, but from my religion, it's a negative thing because the only way one can perform acts like using spiritual power, is if they hold the priesthood, and so using it without the priesthood is doing it without authority, thus kind of breaking a commandment and being a negative thing.
I am very firm on my beliefs, but it is just interesting to me to see what other people think and whats going on. I live in a fairly closed community, but I know there's so much more out there and no two people think the same.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Aug 27, 2017 1:11:57 GMT -5
thats interesting thanks for your response. so you're just in a position of curiosity and exploration? and so my understanding of witchcraft is not very broad at all, but from my religion, it's a negative thing because the only way one can perform acts like using spiritual power, is if they hold the priesthood, and so using it without the priesthood is doing it without authority, thus kind of breaking a commandment and being a negative thing. I am very firm on my beliefs, but it is just interesting to me to see what other people think and whats going on. I live in a fairly closed community, but I know there's so much more out there and no two people think the same. I suppose I am, although I have honestly considered of converting to Wicca a few times. For now, I'm still part of the Catholic church, though I don't necessarily have to leave it should I practice witchcraft. I get what you're saying though, especially since I was like that too and I kind of mention this in my explanation, although apparantly the Bible didn't say anything against witchcraft until the King James version was published. Like I said, there's a reason why I want to study Ancient Hebrew.
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Post by mango on Aug 27, 2017 1:19:58 GMT -5
thats interesting thanks for your response. so you're just in a position of curiosity and exploration? and so my understanding of witchcraft is not very broad at all, but from my religion, it's a negative thing because the only way one can perform acts like using spiritual power, is if they hold the priesthood, and so using it without the priesthood is doing it without authority, thus kind of breaking a commandment and being a negative thing. I am very firm on my beliefs, but it is just interesting to me to see what other people think and whats going on. I live in a fairly closed community, but I know there's so much more out there and no two people think the same. I suppose I am, although I have honestly considered of converting to Wicca a few times. For now, I'm still part of the Catholic church, though I don't necessarily have to leave it should I practice witchcraft. I get what you're saying though, especially since I was like that too and I kind of mention this in my explanation, although apparantly the Bible didn't say anything against witchcraft until the King James version was published. Like I said, there's a reason why I want to study Ancient Hebrew. That's interesting that you say that. Would you be more comfortable in only one faith? Or do you not mind having multiple practices? It just seems interesting to me, because if one contradicts the other, how can you be in both? Or would you only take what you want to believe from each? I have another book, though, than the king James bible, so I mostly go off of that. but yeah, definitely learning Hebrew would help. so many things get lost in translation. I've been wanting to look into it for a while. my church has done a lot of already clearing up literal translations of the Hebrew words, but theres still more I want to learn about it.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Aug 27, 2017 1:31:40 GMT -5
I suppose I am, although I have honestly considered of converting to Wicca a few times. For now, I'm still part of the Catholic church, though I don't necessarily have to leave it should I practice witchcraft. I get what you're saying though, especially since I was like that too and I kind of mention this in my explanation, although apparantly the Bible didn't say anything against witchcraft until the King James version was published. Like I said, there's a reason why I want to study Ancient Hebrew. That's interesting that you say that. Would you be more comfortable in only one faith? Or do you not mind having multiple practices? It just seems interesting to me, because if one contradicts the other, how can you be in both? Or would you only take what you want to believe from each? I have another book, though, than the king James bible, so I mostly go off of that. but yeah, definitely learning Hebrew would help. so many things get lost in translation. I've been wanting to look into it for a while. my church has done a lot of already clearing up literal translations of the Hebrew words, but theres still more I want to learn about it. That's great that your church is doing that. And I also mention this in the explanation, but I believe in multiple religions, but I've always looked up to only one God and still do, yet at the same time, I feel more comfortable when it comes to thinking about other religions, though it could just be the history nerd in me. ^^" Whatever the case, it's a little complicated to explain, but like I said, I believe that the afterlife isn't just Heaven and Hell (and sometimes Purgatory), but multiple afterlives divided into their own divisions. For example, the Greeks and Romans would have theirs with Olympus and the Underworld, the Egyptians would have their own version, the Abrahamic religions would have Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory, etc... but they would be divided since they're completely different belief systems. I don't know, it's just something I always believed in. Like I said, it's complicated, but I hope that made sense.
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Post by mintedstar/fur on Aug 27, 2017 1:32:22 GMT -5
Some part of me wonders if we should attach our 'how'd you get into this' posts to the front page. cx
I'll go find mine, be back...
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Aug 27, 2017 1:34:44 GMT -5
Some part of me wonders if we should attach our 'how'd you get into this' posts to the front page. cx I'll go find mine, be back... Yeah, that'd be alot more convienient.
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Post by mintedstar/fur on Aug 27, 2017 1:36:05 GMT -5
Getting Minty to answer questions in detail is harder than you may think. *breaths in* But here's a go. Don't know if you wanted my story since I'm not, per say, pagan. But I'll give it a go. My family is much the same as Dingo's, so there was never any pressure to be one religion or another. I remember as a young child going to Catholic church. I went for a long time, actually. My beliefs still hold some aspects of it and I try to evolve my beliefs to hold onto that as well as including the possibility of any and all beliefs. For quiet a long time I couldn't figure out what I believed in or if I had a higher power/s. I've had the Greek, Roman, Egyptian, and Gods of my own creation, (as well as God), as my main deities over the years, but they never stuck long for me. They were background noise, like. I believed in them, but never felt I needed them. After a while, things started to fall into place on what I believed in and what I needed to focus on, as I started to worry less if I had a higher power and focus more on my own abilities and spirit. I don't consider myself pagan because I still don't have gods I pray to. I have some aspects of paganism, catholic, and everything else shoved into my religion and until 4 years ago I didn't know how it all fit inside my own head. So it's a religion of my own making. Just kinda wish I could come up with a name for it... If that answers the question? ^^' Hey! I can't believe it was that easy to find. Well, here's the answer as best as I put it back then. Heh, I know the keywords to search now...
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Post by mintedstar/fur on Aug 27, 2017 1:39:08 GMT -5
Some part of me wonders if we should attach our 'how'd you get into this' posts to the front page. cx I'll go find mine, be back... Yeah, that'd be alot more convienient. Anyone who's curious asks that as their first question. Which is 100% cool, since it is a fair question, but the answer never really changes much (apart for me editing a couple of sentences for more explanation/spelling/grammar). It would probably be more helpful to have them all in one place, so that they can get more views easily.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 8:04:55 GMT -5
Will fully respond later today when at a computer. But welcome to the forums/this thread! Hello.
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Post by mango on Aug 27, 2017 11:33:20 GMT -5
That's interesting that you say that. Would you be more comfortable in only one faith? Or do you not mind having multiple practices? It just seems interesting to me, because if one contradicts the other, how can you be in both? Or would you only take what you want to believe from each? I have another book, though, than the king James bible, so I mostly go off of that. but yeah, definitely learning Hebrew would help. so many things get lost in translation. I've been wanting to look into it for a while. my church has done a lot of already clearing up literal translations of the Hebrew words, but theres still more I want to learn about it. That's great that your church is doing that. And I also mention this in the explanation, but I believe in multiple religions, but I've always looked up to only one God and still do, yet at the same time, I feel more comfortable when it comes to thinking about other religions, though it could just be the history nerd in me. ^^" Whatever the case, it's a little complicated to explain, but like I said, I believe that the afterlife isn't just Heaven and Hell (and sometimes Purgatory), but multiple afterlives divided into their own divisions. For example, the Greeks and Romans would have theirs with Olympus and the Underworld, the Egyptians would have their own version, the Abrahamic religions would have Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory, etc... but they would be divided since they're completely different belief systems. I don't know, it's just something I always believed in. Like I said, it's complicated, but I hope that made sense. ahh I see now. I was just a little confused. thats really interesting. I haven't met anyone else with the same view point before
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Post by mango on Aug 27, 2017 11:37:42 GMT -5
this is all just very intriguing to me because I've grown up 100% in my faith, with others 100% in that faith, and we all stick to this one thing. it gives us everything we need, so we don't really need to be in another religion. and, if we were to be in another one, then it wouldn't make sense because it'd be contradictory to our faith. so its just like, I'm so curious to see people like you guys who are finding things on your own. I never really had to, and I don't exactly need to because I believe what I believe, but yeah really fascinating to meet people who're just..finding things for themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 11:46:08 GMT -5
For me it was very much a situational/timing thing
A couple years back I was going through a really tough time in my life/it felt like a lot of things were just falling apart and I couldn't really control them. Since I was raised Roman Catholic, of course my family kept encouraging me to pray, but I found that nothing seemed to be working. On top of this they were sending me a lot of religious memorabilia, crosses, rosaries, etc that I know they expected me to put on display, but I've never been comfortable with doing that/I don't self-identify as a strongly religious person and I was always scared people would get the wrong idea.
So after that I turned to meditation and yoga. Somehow these practices really did seem to help me get my "center" back, and I started growing again as a person. Along the way while I was honing my practice, I of course got to learn a lot more about Buddhism, Hinduism and other ancient Eastern religions, and really appreciated the beauty of them. I never understood why people were sometimes so condescending of the idea that there couldn't be multiple gods, the world is so complex and made up of so many elements, I believe it only makes sense for many beings to have been part of its creation. On top of this I've taken courses in Ancient Greek and Roman mythology, and had read many books on it as a child, so I've been re-visiting those stories as well. I wouldn't necessarily say I'm a hard-core Pagan, but I ascribe to the beliefs, love to connect with nature, practice chakra balance/healing, and really, there is no official ritual or rite to become a pagan. So if you consider yourself one, you are one.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Aug 27, 2017 20:44:34 GMT -5
So, Speech class was today and it wasn't that bad, either. The professor was funny and it seems to be an easy class in general, since the only way to fail is to just not present at all, and he said that he'd help out with my stammering. He gave the class homework, but it's just to pick a poem and recite it (I already chose The Raven by Edgar Allen Poe).
Now all's left is English for tomorrow (and Wednesday), and a class for this one program that I'm in on Tuesday.
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Post by mintedstar/fur on Aug 27, 2017 21:51:42 GMT -5
Sounds fun! If you learn any tips, I'd be glad to know them.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Aug 27, 2017 22:08:57 GMT -5
Sounds fun! If you learn any tips, I'd be glad to know them. Sure thing!
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Aug 28, 2017 12:24:36 GMT -5
So, English class went fine and I got to talk to some of my classmates, and the professor said there would only be three writing assignments. I can handle essays, it's just meeting the page count I sometimes have trouble with, which is why I prefer to present orally or at least visually (and this is coming from someone who hates public speaking).
I also already ordered the books I need for college.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 20:43:36 GMT -5
aye so I have a legitimate question please don't think I'm trolling with this: how is it to be pagan for you all? like. how many of you really believe in this? how many of you sort of ~converted~ into it? How many of you follow this as a trend? Do any of you particularly dislike christianity or atheism? I'm honestly just curious about how people can still be pagan today. like, I know that sounds maybe ignorant of me, but I'm being real here. I'm not coming from a place of ridicule or anything. like I genuinely want to understand the thoughts and feelings behind the followers here. because there's such a controversy today over christianity and atheism. and like, I know there's more religions than that out there, like Islam and stuff. but maybe I guess I just see so much trendy pagan crap that I'm not informed about the ACTUal side of paganism and why there are people who really follow it or just do it for trend. I'm sorry its late and I'm tired but I'm curious I want to talk to you guys for real. like have a real discussion here thats interesting thanks for your response. so you're just in a position of curiosity and exploration? and so my understanding of witchcraft is not very broad at all, but from my religion, it's a negative thing because the only way one can perform acts like using spiritual power, is if they hold the priesthood, and so using it without the priesthood is doing it without authority, thus kind of breaking a commandment and being a negative thing. I am very firm on my beliefs, but it is just interesting to me to see what other people think and whats going on. I live in a fairly closed community, but I know there's so much more out there and no two people think the same. this is all just very intriguing to me because I've grown up 100% in my faith, with others 100% in that faith, and we all stick to this one thing. it gives us everything we need, so we don't really need to be in another religion. and, if we were to be in another one, then it wouldn't make sense because it'd be contradictory to our faith. so its just like, I'm so curious to see people like you guys who are finding things on your own. I never really had to, and I don't exactly need to because I believe what I believe, but yeah really fascinating to meet people who're just..finding things for themselves. Okay so I'm going to dissect all of these one at a time here. Firstly, don't worry nobody here is going to ever think you're trolling because things get asked pretty frequently. If you wanna come back with more questions feel free because I personally love questions. Being pagan is really different from person to person sometimes from just being spiritual to religious to 'witchy' and sometimes a combination of all three, which is what I am. I can ramble on for days about a number of topics and yes of course I do really believe it, hence the thread. I only hoped to find others who take it as seriously and not feel so out of place if I just randomly mention doing my own thing and being seen by the majority as weird. I know i'm weird. I delight in it. I'd hope nobody here sees it as a 'trend' because that's pretty disrespectful. HOWEVER there's been plenty of people here coming and going who find it, follow it, and then decide it isn't for them but the thing is they will hopefully still learn something from all of us here or at least learn something more about themselves so they can find and figure out what is right for them specifically. It could very well be a phase for many and I'm willing to acknowledge that because everybody has their own stepping stones in self-discovery they need to cover. I'd also mention me being Satanist was a phase, as well as me just being outright spiteful and stupid because I did want to be the opposite of whatever Christians were seeing how my own personal experiences with abusive family as well as several people around here acting hypocritically to their own doctrine and the fact that Kansas is definitely a little bit of a redneck bible-belt state. Thankfully, I grew up. I know better than to just act the opposite of whatever and the concept of balance, yin-yang, whatever you'd like to call it is a strong point in my current set of beliefs. I do not hate or dislike any religion or non-religion as a group, but my judgement is reserved for those that act in contradiction to what they claim to believe. Additionally, if someone can't defend their beliefs in some logical manner, I do not believe they have the right to hold that belief and should take a harder look around them. When someone can logically (and politely) discuss their beliefs, no matter how different the viewpoint may be, I can respect that. Although with Athiests, the fact someone can believe in absolutely no intelligent design from any higher power baffles me to no end and doesn't seem at all possible or likely? As far as other religions and 'trendy pagan crap' I'm going to assume you mean things like aesthetic blogs and such that post pictures of books, crystals, herbs, the moon, black cats, whatever, I guess pagan items and ritual tools do hold their own specific aesthetics and in the case of the strange hell of obscurity that is Tumblr, maybe most of it is fake an trendy. Especially things like those that post or reblog "emoji spells" or "meme magic". (Like wtf, seriously???? okay if you say so lmao.) There's also the Super Controversial Spellsofmagicdotcom which is pretty infamous for being really wishy-washy and having a ton of unrealistic things like how to turn yourself into a vampire or somehow drawing a cat on a piece of paper will make it magically appear the following day, or the number of people who seem to think it's a weaboo roleplay/dating site. Stupid fluff like that. There's also the issue directly between Christianity and Paganism where misinformed christians who never bothered to do their research like to maintain the stance that all other deities or witchcraft is of the Devil/Satan/Lucifer/ whatever you want to call him and it's not. There is an extremely distinct line between Satanists and Pagans, though some may or may not decide to culminate together in certain circles. Most Pagans don't even believe in the concept of Satan, and he wasn't associated to any of it until after the rise of Christianity, though opinions on demons or malicious spirits may differ. Gods such as Loki for example were never seen as truly evil or Satan-like figures until after it's influence spread. Loki himself is merely a trickster capable of many things and usually a harbinger of chaos, though one must remember that with that chaos comes things like creativity, or new beginnings. (This also ties in with my personal belief of balance, and one thing my life has taught me well is that the most unfortunate or disastrous of situations can still have a positive outcome such as Loki and his children beginning Ragnarok and ending this world heralds also the new world and a fresh start for creation.) I'm constantly learning and growing in my own way and it is driven mostly by curiosity and exploration. Even since starting this thread in under 200 pages I've grown so much and felt pretty good about being able to learn from and teach others. Witchcraft, magic, and spiritual power whether coming from the self or calling upon other spirits, deities, or energy is really neither a force of good and evil by itself, it really does depend on situation and intent. One pagan witch can use it for good and foster health and wellbeing for other people, while others might try to use it for their own selfish gains and manipulation, or even curses. I myself definitely side on the 'good witch' half of things, though I mostly just do fortune telling with my runes and oracle cards and see myself as a neutral Messenger. As far as the priesthood and breaking commandments goes, I ask you this: What about people, including Christians, who do not congregate with one another in a building designed to be a church or temple or have an authority other than God? Is practicing your faith alone not just as valid as with a group? Because if it isn't then anyone facing religious persecution under any pretense should be doomed, but they aren't. Food for thought. And to wrap this up, I suppose it's nice to just already know where you stand and feel at home how you were raised to think and act but for a lot of people they don't or they feel like something else is missing. If your religion is what works for you then there isn't need for much change. The only thing I'd say is just because you don't need to or have to change what you think it's great to look into other belief systems and patterns of thinking yourself too and ask questions and see what's out there! Knowing how to defend what you believe, whether it's religious, political, whatever, and build on it or back it up against other belief systems will make it stronger and help you grow intellectually and as a person too. c:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 20:44:37 GMT -5
WHOEEE I hope I didn't miss any major points there.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Aug 28, 2017 21:54:32 GMT -5
I Am In Your Walls I swear, if I could like your post more than once, I would. XD
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 21:59:19 GMT -5
Lol thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 22:04:55 GMT -5
Also secondary question... why would the priesthood matter when the only person Chistians need to follow is Jesus? If Jesus said something about not using spiritual power though then correct me, but I thought the only reason to follow most old testament laws other than the ten commandments is just if you're an orthodox Jew bc the jewish are still bound by all of the old laws since they don't believe Jesus was the messiah?
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Post by mintedstar/fur on Aug 28, 2017 22:13:47 GMT -5
o.o Impressive post length.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Aug 28, 2017 22:15:55 GMT -5
Also secondary question... why would the priesthood matter when the only person Chistians need to follow is Jesus? If Jesus said something about not using spiritual power though then correct me, but I thought the only reason to follow most old testament laws other than the ten commandments is just if you're an orthodox Jew bc the jewish are still bound by all of the old laws since they don't believe Jesus was the messiah? Regarding the last part, that's pretty much correct. If I recall correctly, the Jews believe Jesus was a holy man, they just don't think he was the Savior, so that's pretty much right. And according to one article I read, for Jews, "the name alone is nearly synonymous with pogroms and Crusades, charges of deicide and centuries of Christian anti-Semitism."
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Aug 29, 2017 15:39:09 GMT -5
So, today's class was more of a workshop for new students and the only reading that's required is The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 15:48:22 GMT -5
Nice! That's smart to get the new people caught up. I hate when I sign up for a class late and get there and then have no sweet clue as to what's going on
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 14:14:11 GMT -5
Dammit I keep forgetting to respond even though I see and like the posts.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 15:02:18 GMT -5
^ Me at work because our wifi is non-existent and our cell service is sloooowwww
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 17:07:56 GMT -5
Ive done hardly anything all day but I still feel low on energy. I cant wait to eat dinner and go back to sleep. Meditating hasn't helped either I think I'm just tired?
I did wake up at 5am the past coupoe of days so that makes sense.
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