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Post by pastelpills on Dec 12, 2016 1:37:03 GMT -5
Why do you hate/like him? Just wondering if we are gonna get something original.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 2:53:36 GMT -5
People who like him: Either they feel sorry for him and think that Squirrelflight is a monster, or they like him as a good villain.
People who hate him; for being a whiny brat and having a temper tantrum over a simple rejection
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Post by Sootfeather on Dec 12, 2016 4:48:57 GMT -5
I dislike him for all the normal reasons. He did lots of things wrong, he over-reacted, he claimed that he "loved" Squirrelflight, while in reality, if you loved someone you wouldn't try to burn what you thought were their children alive and then try to ruin their lives... ect.
But I like him as a villain. I'm not exactly sure why, but I like that a normal clan cat suddenly turned into a villain because of his own twisted reality. He thought that Squirrelflight was the bad guy and that she deserved it. He's not a villain because of his past, or because he is evil, or because he wants to take over the clans. He wants to "punish someone who hurt him" and he doesn't care if he hurts the lives of his clanmates and the clan as a whole while doing that. It's new, I guess. Or at least that's how I see it. Plus he caused drama and character development in Hollyleaf and probably Jayfeather.
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Post by Kibui on Dec 12, 2016 6:20:01 GMT -5
I love him because of how cynical he is .-D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 9:32:55 GMT -5
Im Neutral about Ashfur. He has some good qualities like being loyal and wanting to stick to one mate. But he is clingy and cringey
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Post by moonmasksunfrost on Dec 12, 2016 11:09:53 GMT -5
I hate him because he seemed to think that because he loved (read: "was obsessed with") Squirrelflight, she should love him back and be his mate. You aren't entitled to affection or love from anybody.
Not to mention, she wanted to stay friends with him but he rejected the because he wanted to be mates or nothing, started shaming and ignoring her, etc.
I read one too many rants by Jaywarriors on the old forum, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2016 11:34:34 GMT -5
I don't like him because he was ready to throw away everything- his family, his clan- even his title as a warrior over a girl ._." If he had succeeded, he'd be dumb enough to leave Squirrelflight alive to "make her suffer more", who'd then rad on him and pretty soon Ashfur would have been kicked out and be forced to live as a loner his entire life... and over someone who wouldn't be his girlfriend?
If there's anything that grinds my gears, it's lack of priority. The ONLY thing that made Ashfur interesting at all was that he failed.
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Dec 12, 2016 20:16:48 GMT -5
I'm neutral about him, but I hate the way it was handled... Ashfur should've said something other than his obsession with Squirrelflight and should have gone to someplace in between the DF and Starclan (he definitely did not deserve to go to Starclan, but did not do enough crimes to go to the DF either...)
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Dec 12, 2016 20:33:04 GMT -5
I dislike him as a cat, he's still one of my favorite characters in terms of villainy.
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Post by Owlmoon on Dec 13, 2016 7:59:45 GMT -5
I don't like him, he is so upset over rejection that he ATTEMPTS to kill to make Squirrelflight hurt as much as he did by the rejection.
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