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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 13:15:56 GMT -5
Graystripe is a terrible father. People say they hate Millie, but what about Graystripe? He's no better. When Blossomfall was yelled at by her mother, was Graystripe there? No. He didn't even try to comfort her. And Graystripe was watching. And the "fathers don't normally spend time with their children" isn't an excuse. Graystripe left his own home for Stormfur and Feathertail and he was an excellent father for them. So why isn't he there for Blossomfall now? It also bothered me how he was excited to see Silverstream in TLH, and when Feathertail died, he said, "She was so much like Silverstream." And if I recall, didn't Graystripe only stay with his original family because they were all he had left of Silverstream? Heck, even Silverstream seems more mature than Graystripe now. She allowed Graystripe to be with Millie. It just seems like Gray's world is all about Silver and he doesn't seem to care about his new family as much. And when Millie was dying from greencough, he saw Silver dying, not Millie. Gray is also around Millie more than his own children, which makes me wonder if he sees Silver in her after all than Millie herself.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 13:32:42 GMT -5
I agree with absolutely everything here. Graystripe is especially unfair to Millie who has been around for him longer and helped him get motivated to find his way back to the clans. She deserves better in that case.
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Post by Uмвяᴀ on Aug 1, 2016 13:35:00 GMT -5
It's sad really. He was such a good father to Stormfur and Feathertail, but spends no time with Bumblestripe, Briarlight, and Blossomfall. You are probably right in saying that it was because of Silverstream. I kind of feel bad for Millie now. She left her home and entire lifestyle for someone and all he sees in her is the echo of his first mate. I don't know if she is even aware of this because from the looks of it, she hasn't said anything to Graystripe. I feel bad for the three Bs as well as they are getting no attention from their father because they are not Silverstream's kits. They are probably not aware of that either.I don't know why no one in the clan is saying anything, either. Leafpool gave Spiderleg an entire lecture about being there for his kits, so shy did Graystripe get away with it?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 14:40:56 GMT -5
Like I said before, I feel like he was only a super "good" father to Feathertail and Stormfur because: Silverstream's from a different clan and she died, so he HAD to be there for them, plus, he was very young and had lots of energy and emotions and never dealt with this tense of a situation, so he felt even MORE determined as a father. Keep in mind that he left his clan because silverstream died and he's a first time father. Millie is a different cat. She has more attitude and more sense of self. She's also a first time mother, so she's very over protective, maybe it has to do with being protected and pampered as a kittypet? we don't know. Graystripe, as the father of the 3B's, has the experience and has gone through so much in his life now. This is how i think he truly is as a father. if silverstream was originally a thunderclan cat and she lived, he'd act like how he is now despite being a first time father. millie's alive and in his clan, there's no reason for graystripe to be paranoid about his kits' wellbeing. he sees them everyday. i am not defending real life parents like this, but graystripe has gone through a lot
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Post by Cheyenne on Aug 1, 2016 16:05:50 GMT -5
I agree, Greystripe will probably never get over Silverstream. He loved her a lot after all.
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remember that scene from up with the old man? Yeah. Sad.
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Post by ❆αυяσяα on Aug 1, 2016 16:08:37 GMT -5
agreed
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 16:17:45 GMT -5
But why should Graystripe still be obsessed with Silverstream? Their "love" was immature, annoying (imo), and infatuous. im eating my own words right now, but infatuation is not love. They were young, immature, never knew each other that well...so WHAT THE HECK WHY IS HE STILL OBSESSED WITH SILVERSTREAM????? He takes millie for granted when he was more than happy to see Silverstream in TLH. if I were millie, I'd have a serious talk with him about relationships.
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Post by Ligerfrost on Aug 1, 2016 19:56:33 GMT -5
To be honest I don't think Graystripe has ever genuinely cared for any of his kits. With Stormfur and Feathertail yeah he cared about them but from the moment they were born he cared more their mother than them. Graystripe was so wrapped up in Silverstream he didn't pay attention at all to the fact that his kits were alive and well despite their mother's death. He didn't even bother to try and find out the status of his kits he just assumed they were dead also, until Fireheart found him and told them they were okay and safe. And actually I feel like Graystripe's relationship with Silverstream was borderline obsessive. His relationship with his kits was obsessive because they were all he had left of Silverstream and despite the fact they were being taken care of by a trust worthy queen, he had to be forced away from them to actually participate in warrior duties. When Feathertail dies the only thing Graystripe can say is "It's not fair she was so much like Silverstream" Instead of acknowledging his daughter as her own individual with her own traits, he instead compares her to his dead mate. He shows no concern or even inquires as to what happened to Stormfur after Brambleclaw, Squirrelflight , Jaypaw, Lionpaw and Hollypaw come back from the mountains. He tells Jayfeather he'd rather Jayfeather save Millie and not her kits. I don't think he genuinely cared for any of his kits. He showed concern over Stormfur & Feathertail in the Original Series but again it hadn't even been a year since Silverstream's death so his over-protectiveness likely came from the fact that he acknowledged that they were all he had left of Silverstream and didn't want to lose them so soon after losing her. But his attitude toward his kits has always been reserved.
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Post by Brownie on Aug 1, 2016 20:03:27 GMT -5
Honestly I forgot Greystripe even had kits in the first place.
He has no connection to them. It's just GreyxMillie. . . + her kits.
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