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Post by Holy Fern on Dec 1, 2016 0:38:48 GMT -5
I actually don't hate Millie and there are a few who don't hate her too. I actually like her and think she's a good warrior and mate, but I don't think she's the best mother. Yet despite all this, I just can't see her as abusive, let alone neglectful. Probably because this issue was brought up in one book and one book alone. Neglect is a form of abuse, which is what Millie has been doing to Blossomfall. And queens are important cats in the Clan, because they rebuild it! Plus, Millie was downright neglectful to poor Blossomfall. And the reason they only brought it up in one book was because they had to move on to more important things in the future, even though that was pretty important. I still dislike Millie definitely. |
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Dec 1, 2016 1:00:58 GMT -5
I actually don't hate Millie and there are a few who don't hate her too. I actually like her and think she's a good warrior and mate, but I don't think she's the best mother. Yet despite all this, I just can't see her as abusive, let alone neglectful. Probably because this issue was brought up in one book and one book alone. Neglect is a form of abuse, which is what Millie has been doing to Blossomfall. And queens are important cats in the Clan, because they rebuild it! Plus, Millie was downright neglectful to poor Blossomfall. And the reason they only brought it up in one book was because they had to move on to more important things in the future, even though that was pretty important. I still dislike Millie definitely. Did I ever say that neglect wasn't a form of abuse? No, I did not. I know it's a form of abuse, I just can't see Millie as abusive. And honestly, Blossomfall isn't completely innocent either, which is why I never had much sympathy for her. She was rather unpleasant especially as an apprentice, and this was before Briarlight broke her spine. And not addressing it again just because they had to move on shouldn't be an excuse. If they brought it up for one book and never solved it within the books and only off-page, then it qualifies as poor writing. There's a reason why one of the most important rules in writing is show, don't tell. I actually don't care about Millie's issue with Blossomfall, I care that it was never resolved within the story. If the Erins could add pointless drama in OotS, then surely they could've added something to indicate Millie and Blossomfall's strained relationship than just one or two scenes in SotM or at least show some sort of closure to the issue. And I know queens are important to the Clan, I never once said otherwise. What's your point? |
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Post by Holy Fern on Dec 1, 2016 1:14:49 GMT -5
Neglect is a form of abuse, which is what Millie has been doing to Blossomfall. And queens are important cats in the Clan, because they rebuild it! Plus, Millie was downright neglectful to poor Blossomfall. And the reason they only brought it up in one book was because they had to move on to more important things in the future, even though that was pretty important. I still dislike Millie definitely. Did I ever say that neglect wasn't a form of abuse? No, I did not. I know it's a form of abuse, I just can't see Millie as abusive. And honestly, Blossomfall isn't completely innocent either, which is why I never had much sympathy for her. She was rather unpleasant especially as an apprentice, and this was before Briarlight broke her spine. And not addressing it again just because they had to move on shouldn't be an excuse. If they brought it up for one book and never solved it within the books and only off-page, then it qualifies as poor writing. There's a reason why one of the most important rules in writing is show, don't tell. I actually don't care about Millie's issue with Blossomfall, I care that it was never resolved within the story. If the Erins could add pointless drama in OotS, then surely they could've added something to indicate Millie and Blossomfall's strained relationship than just one or two scenes in SotM or at least show some sort of closure to the issue. And I know queens are important to the Clan, I never once said otherwise. What's your point? Well if Blossomfall seemed unpleasant as an apprentice, then Millie should have helped her. This is why Millie is not a good mother, and Millie has snapped at Blossomfall so much. This is why Blossomfall is so cold! (Expression) If a cat gets no love, they get cold. Thanks a lot Millie, now you've a frozen daughter. (LOL just symbolism) |
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Dec 1, 2016 1:21:28 GMT -5
Did I ever say that neglect wasn't a form of abuse? No, I did not. I know it's a form of abuse, I just can't see Millie as abusive. And honestly, Blossomfall isn't completely innocent either, which is why I never had much sympathy for her. She was rather unpleasant especially as an apprentice, and this was before Briarlight broke her spine. And not addressing it again just because they had to move on shouldn't be an excuse. If they brought it up for one book and never solved it within the books and only off-page, then it qualifies as poor writing. There's a reason why one of the most important rules in writing is show, don't tell. I actually don't care about Millie's issue with Blossomfall, I care that it was never resolved within the story. If the Erins could add pointless drama in OotS, then surely they could've added something to indicate Millie and Blossomfall's strained relationship than just one or two scenes in SotM or at least show some sort of closure to the issue. And I know queens are important to the Clan, I never once said otherwise. What's your point? Well if Blossomfall seemed unpleasant as an apprentice, then Millie should have helped her. This is why Millie is not a good mother, and Millie has snapped at Blossomfall so much. This is why Blossomfall is so cold! (Expression) If a cat gets no love, they get cold. Thanks a lot Millie, now you've a frozen daughter. (LOL just symbolism) So much? We've only seen Millie snap at Blossomfall literally one time and again, Blossomfall isn't innocent either. Communication goes both ways. And even though I like Millie, nowhere have I said that I think she's a good mother. In fact, I've always thought she wasn't a very good one even before Briarlight broke her spine since she was overprotective of her kits and spoiled them even then. |
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Post by pastelpills on Dec 1, 2016 1:40:10 GMT -5
Well if Blossomfall seemed unpleasant as an apprentice, then Millie should have helped her. This is why Millie is not a good mother, and Millie has snapped at Blossomfall so much. This is why Blossomfall is so cold! (Expression) If a cat gets no love, they get cold. Thanks a lot Millie, now you've a frozen daughter. (LOL just symbolism) So much? We've only seen Millie snap at Blossomfall literally one time and again, Blossomfall isn't innocent either. Communication goes both ways. And even though I like Millie, nowhere have I said that I think she's a good mother. In fact, I've always thought she wasn't a very good one even before Briarlight broke her spine since she was overprotective of her kits and spoiled them even then. She definetely isn't innocent, but her reasons for being "bad" are more justified that Millie's imo. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 7:10:43 GMT -5
i really liked her in the mangas. she was sweet, smart and worked off greystripe very well. however, in the books she isn't that great of a parent. i wish her and greystripe could have just been a power couple without kids. but i don't think she deserves being treated like literal satan spawn by the fandom. |
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Post by appleleaf11 on Dec 4, 2016 22:49:13 GMT -5
I honestly don't understand why Millie gets all this hate. People say that Graystripe "betrayed" Silverstream by becoming mates with Millie,but that is not concidered betraying at all. What we should like is that Graystripe is happy again. For the longest time, Graystripe couldn't stop thinking about Silverstream. He was heartbroken. When Millie came into his life, he started to light up again. Do you people want him to be happy or to be sad and alone. Millie is most noticeably hated for treating Blossomfall poorly. Kate actually confirmed that she still loves Blossomfall and Bumblestripe,and wishes that Briarlight's accident didn't happen so she could spend time with her two other kits. I honestly don't know why you people think that Millie is so heartless that she would start hating her two others kits just because their sister has a bad injury. Millie isn't that kind of character like Lizardstripe or Rainflower. What I'm saying is, Millie is a really likable character, and people just seem to hate her.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 23:40:11 GMT -5
I honestly don't understand why Millie gets all this hate. People say that Graystripe "betrayed" Silverstream by becoming mates with Millie,but that is not concidered betraying at all. What we should like is that Graystripe is happy again. For the longest time, Graystripe couldn't stop thinking about Silverstream. He was heartbroken. When Millie came into his life, he started to light up again. Do you people want him to be happy or to be sad and alone. Millie is most noticeably hated for treating Blossomfall poorly. Kate actually confirmed that she still loves Blossomfall and Bumblestripe,and wishes that Briarlight's accident didn't happen so she could spend time with her two other kits. I honestly don't know why you people think that Millie is so heartless that she would start hating her two others kits just because their sister has a bad injury. Millie isn't that kind of character like Lizardstripe or Rainflower. What I'm saying is, Millie is a really likable character, and people just seem to hate her. Thank you. People treat Millie like she's a monster, but really she did what mothers normally do - scolding. Millie only yelled at Blossomfall ONCE. And if people hate Millie, then what about Graystripe. He wasn't there for anyone, and he was watching when Blossomfall got yelled at. |
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Post by Holy Fern on Dec 8, 2016 9:23:21 GMT -5
I hate Millie. She is freaking abusive and mean! No offense but you're claiming Millie is abusive when she yelled at Blossomfall a few times due to stress and anxiety over Briarlight's injury, but you also like Ashfur and claim he only did the things he did because he had a bad life. Logic! Ferncloud lost everything he lost too plus more! Heck half her kits were dead by time she died. And know there's only one alive. Just because you have a bad past does not mean you have to handle it the way Ashfur did. Back to topic I actually like Millie as a warrior, and although the incident with Blossomfall and Briarlight was irritating, I think she loves them both and they will move on. Actually, neglect is a form of abuse. Millie was coldhearted, rude, and abusive. |
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Post by ✶Jaysong✶ on Dec 8, 2016 22:26:54 GMT -5
Millie isn't necessarily bad--but definitely not winning any "mother of the year" awards either. I dislike her just because, even if that was the way she was looking at it, Blossomfall still didn't deserve to be treated that way. Blossomfall turned to the Dark Forest, because, like Maplefrost said, she felt like she belonged there because Millie made her feel that way. NO MOTHER, no matter what the circumstances or if they're a cat or not, should make their daughter feel like that and have no remorse for it. What Millie did was wrong, and I honestly hope she can become a better mother to Blossomfall. Blossom deserves it, after everything she's been through.
I understand how Blossomfall feels--whenever I was an immature young girl (around 8 or so) i became an aunt. I wasn't ready for that kind of responsibility, of being looked at like I should be mature. Blossomfall was an apprentice when the accident happened. If she felt like she had to grow up quickly to be the kind of warrior Millie thought both her and Briarlight should have been, that's a lot. of. pressure. That's a burden no young person (or cat) should have to carry. My mother, too, was unsympathetic to my cause. Now, when I'm a teenager, she wants to have a closer relationship with me, but there's still a lot of hurt left over that I can't get rid of. As an impressionable young cat, Blossomfall would have felt betrayed by her own kin. Abandoned. Being alone is not a good feeling. Trust me. I dislike Millie because, after going through something similar, I feel sympathy to Blossomfall. Even if Millie still loves her, she doesn't make it known.
Blossomfall has a right to be upset and feel betrayed. And Millie has a right to be guilty.
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