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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Nov 21, 2016 8:49:56 GMT -5
I can't remember her exact words, but I do recall Kate saying on her blog at least once how the editor is pretty much outranks the author and this is usually true. Going by this, would this mean that whenever there was contradicted information on the three, that Vicky is to be believed over Kate or Cherith at least when it comes to things before she began to work on just the novellas rather than just the series as a whole, like Fallen Leaves and Hollyleaf not being mates or Crowfeather truly loving Leafpool instead of seeing her as Feathertail's echo or Heathertail telling the truth about how WindClan found out about the tunnels?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 10:43:38 GMT -5
Not sure tbh, but there might be some truth to that. Kate rarely knows anything about books she doesn't write, while Cherith doesn't say anything at all. Then we have Vicky, who never really officially wrote any of the books but oversaw a lot of it and probably knows a lot in general about all the books.
The only problem is that Vicky stated that she is no longer involved in the new series' DOTC or AVOS- meaning that though it might be true that she could possibly have the most reliable information before The Last Hope, she has little to say for anything after that in the main series. So any editor or "higher knowledge" regarding post The Last Hope is unknown- and it's definitely not Vicky.
So who knows. The Erins have stated multiple times that it aren't just them influencing the story- other editors and other friends and associates also have a large impact. I think I recall Vicky saying that Warriors would be a whole lot more depressing and there'd be way more deaths had she had her say more.
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Post by Kibui on Nov 21, 2016 11:50:56 GMT -5
It does indeed. Cherith (and I believe Kate as well) have stated before that Vicky's word weighs more than theirs
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Post by pastelpills on Nov 21, 2016 14:10:54 GMT -5
That also means Dovewing's eyes are blue.
Warriors mystery No. 1 is officially solved.
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Post by wheeledwarrior on Nov 21, 2016 17:42:09 GMT -5
I can understand Fallen Leaves and Hollyleaf not being mates, because the whole dynamic between them was sort of awkward... But I'm also glad Vicky didn't have her way most of the time, because I feel like Warriors has enough deaths/depressing moments as is... Plus, having more of them might get it out of the young adult category it's aiming for...
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Post by โ
Maplefrostโ
on Nov 21, 2016 22:02:22 GMT -5
I personally believe them in this order >> Vicky >> Cherith >> Kate.
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Post by Dawnrise on Nov 22, 2016 0:29:24 GMT -5
I've always thought of Dovewing's eyes as blue, because she's a super special ThunderClan prophecy cat, so her eyes need to be super special.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Nov 22, 2016 0:35:36 GMT -5
I've always thought of Dovewing's eyes as blue, because she's a super special ThunderClan prophecy cat, so her eyes need to be super special. What does specifically having blue eyes have anything to do with that, though? Plenty of cats in the series have blue eyes even if they aren't white cats. |
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Post by Dawnrise on Nov 22, 2016 0:40:03 GMT -5
I've always thought of Dovewing's eyes as blue, because she's a super special ThunderClan prophecy cat, so her eyes need to be super special. What does specifically having blue eyes have anything to do with that, though? Plenty of cats in the series have blue eyes even if they aren't white cats. Yeah, but most cats have yellow, green or brown and in real life, blue eyes are uncommon for cats (even though cat genetics don't matter that much in the books). |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Nov 22, 2016 0:47:58 GMT -5
What does specifically having blue eyes have anything to do with that, though? Plenty of cats in the series have blue eyes even if they aren't white cats. Yeah, but most cats have yellow, green or brown and in real life, blue eyes are uncommon for cats (even though cat genetics don't matter that much in the books). I know that, but that only applies to real life and the Erins clearly fail when it comes to cat genetics. What I mean is I still fail to see why Dovewing having blue eyes would make her super special when it really isn't that uncommon for a non-white cat to have blue eyes specifically within the books, not in real life. |
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Post by Dawnrise on Nov 22, 2016 11:30:42 GMT -5
Yeah, but most cats have yellow, green or brown and in real life, blue eyes are uncommon for cats (even though cat genetics don't matter that much in the books). I know that, but that only applies to real life and the Erins clearly fail when it comes to cat genetics. What I mean is I still fail to see why Dovewing having blue eyes would make her super special when it really isn't that uncommon for a non-white cat to have blue eyes specifically within the books, not in real life. In the books it's not as common to have to blue eyes as it is to have brown, yellow, or green eyes either. Most of the time background characters don't have them It's not like I'm saying having blue eyes are super duper rare, I just like to call prophecy cat super special ThunderClan prophecy cats because they're really special and can never die unless they literally get set on fire by getting struck by lightning. |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Nov 22, 2016 12:11:33 GMT -5
I know that, but that only applies to real life and the Erins clearly fail when it comes to cat genetics. What I mean is I still fail to see why Dovewing having blue eyes would make her super special when it really isn't that uncommon for a non-white cat to have blue eyes specifically within the books, not in real life. In the books it's not as common to have to blue eyes as it is to have brown, yellow, or green eyes either. Most of the time background characters don't have them It's not like I'm saying having blue eyes areย super duperย rare, I just like to call prophecy cat super special ThunderClan prophecy cats because they're really special and can never die unless they literally get set on fire by getting struck by lightning. Now I got what you mean. And yeah, I noticed that even though any cat can have blue eyes, it's still kind of uncommon and only about a handful of thr protagonists have blue eyes. Also, I'm guessing the whole struck by lightning thing refers to Firestar... who wasn't actually struck by lightning anyway and it's just a common misconception that he was? |
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Post by Dawnrise on Nov 22, 2016 18:22:30 GMT -5
In the books it's not as common to have to blue eyes as it is to have brown, yellow, or green eyes either. Most of the time background characters don't have them It's not like I'm saying having blue eyes are super duper rare, I just like to call prophecy cat super special ThunderClan prophecy cats because they're really special and can never die unless they literally get set on fire by getting struck by lightning. Now I got what you mean. And yeah, I noticed that even though any cat can have blue eyes, it's still kind of uncommon and only about a handful of thr protagonists have blue eyes. Also, I'm guessing the whole struck by lightning thing refers to Firestar... who wasn't actually struck by lightning anyway and it's just a common misconception that he was? Yeah, now that I think about his death, he got killed by a burning tree that was ignited by lightning, I guess it's not as instens, but still pretty cool. |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Nov 22, 2016 18:55:18 GMT -5
Now I got what you mean. And yeah, I noticed that even though any cat can have blue eyes, it's still kind of uncommon and only about a handful of thr protagonists have blue eyes. Also, I'm guessing the whole struck by lightning thing refers to Firestar... who wasn't actually struck by lightning anyway and it's just a common misconception that he was? Yeah, now that I think about his death, he got killed by a burning tree that was ignited by lightning, I guess it's not as instens, but still pretty cool. Actually, what really killed Firestar were the wounds that were inflicted on him by Tigerstar. The tree that caught fire was the exact same tree that killed Longtail and paralyzed Briarlight, and the text even mentions that it had already fallen. Dovewing just imagined that he was okay until the lightning snapped her back to reality. |
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Post by Dawnrise on Nov 22, 2016 19:00:00 GMT -5
Yeah, now that I think about his death, he got killed by a burning tree that was ignited by lightning, I guess it's not as instens, but still pretty cool. Actually, what really killed Firestar were the wounds that were inflicted on him by Tigerstar. The tree that caught fire was the exact same tree that killed Long tail and killed Briarlight, and the text even mentions that it had already fallen. Dovewing just imagined that he was okay until the lightning snapped her back to reality. Whoa, that's weird, I always thought he got lit on fire. |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Nov 22, 2016 19:41:30 GMT -5
Actually, what really killed Firestar were the wounds that were inflicted on him by Tigerstar. The tree that caught fire was the exact same tree that killed Long tail and killed Briarlight, and the text even mentions that it had already fallen. Dovewing just imagined that he was okay until the lightning snapped her back to reality. Whoa, that's weird, I always thought he got lit on fire. Nope. The text even says that the lightning hit the fallen beech tree beside Firestar. And not only did the Erins confirm he died of his wounds, but The Ultimate Guide even outright states this as well. |
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