Post by tokitoki on Nov 16, 2016 2:22:33 GMT -5
Hi, I'm new here. I found this forum and made an account here because (surprisingly) for the first time ever, I am just so genuinely confused with a character's decision that I need someone to explain to me or give me some justification for this because I just don't understand.
I don't understand her... selfishness? I guess is one way to put it.
Mainly, in Thunder and Shadow, why does she choose to join ShadowClan after leaving the rogues instead of ThunderClan?
Even knowing ShadowClan never really accepted her, she had absolutely no friends in there, and no one had ever treated her with any respect or given her any attention (besides Needletail). Even knowing they kinda resented her and even kinda pushed her out when Needlepaw left.
Combined with the fact that Twigpaw had literally just spoken to her for the first time in 4 months that very night and obviously still cared about her. She didn't really have a bad relationship with Twigpaw at the time. Maybe she felt a little hurt that Twigpaw never tried to check up on her during the winter despite being a kit and her being surrounded by dangerous rogues. But it's not like ShadowClan did anything either??
At first I was willing to just roll with it, but later it kinda turns into a big deal in the most irrational way possible.
Later she just expected Twigpaw to be completely willing to abandon her Clan after a couple of days in ShadowClan despite Twigpaw actually living in ThunderClan for pretty much her whole life, while Violetpaw spent most of her life outside of ShadowClan? And SHE'S the one who felt "betrayed" because Twigpaw wasn't willing to make that monumental sacrifice for her? She doesn't even consider maybe Twigpaw feels the same way about Thunderclan as she does about ShadowClan at this point (I guess? It must not have been very strong since she so willingly joins the rogues later for ONLY Needletail anyway)
This then results in her joining the rogues because she felt like Needletail was all she had left. Which at least, is understandable given how much Needletail had manipulated her earlier. But this whole course of events only happens because Violetpaw never really thought about Twigpaw to begin with and it's made me seriously resent Violetpaw.
So I feel like I really don't understand Violetpaw's motivations or character at all. She seems clingy at times and completely detached other times.
I don't understand her... selfishness? I guess is one way to put it.
Mainly, in Thunder and Shadow, why does she choose to join ShadowClan after leaving the rogues instead of ThunderClan?
Even knowing ShadowClan never really accepted her, she had absolutely no friends in there, and no one had ever treated her with any respect or given her any attention (besides Needletail). Even knowing they kinda resented her and even kinda pushed her out when Needlepaw left.
Combined with the fact that Twigpaw had literally just spoken to her for the first time in 4 months that very night and obviously still cared about her. She didn't really have a bad relationship with Twigpaw at the time. Maybe she felt a little hurt that Twigpaw never tried to check up on her during the winter despite being a kit and her being surrounded by dangerous rogues. But it's not like ShadowClan did anything either??
At first I was willing to just roll with it, but later it kinda turns into a big deal in the most irrational way possible.
Later she just expected Twigpaw to be completely willing to abandon her Clan after a couple of days in ShadowClan despite Twigpaw actually living in ThunderClan for pretty much her whole life, while Violetpaw spent most of her life outside of ShadowClan? And SHE'S the one who felt "betrayed" because Twigpaw wasn't willing to make that monumental sacrifice for her? She doesn't even consider maybe Twigpaw feels the same way about Thunderclan as she does about ShadowClan at this point (I guess? It must not have been very strong since she so willingly joins the rogues later for ONLY Needletail anyway)
This then results in her joining the rogues because she felt like Needletail was all she had left. Which at least, is understandable given how much Needletail had manipulated her earlier. But this whole course of events only happens because Violetpaw never really thought about Twigpaw to begin with and it's made me seriously resent Violetpaw.
So I feel like I really don't understand Violetpaw's motivations or character at all. She seems clingy at times and completely detached other times.
