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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 21:00:48 GMT -5
It makes me angry how Firestar believed in Ivypaw's dream so easily. It just seemed so out of character that he actually wanted to attack ShadowClan. While this is definitely a good flaw for him (Talking to you, people who use the "gary-stu" excuse!) it wasn't handled the right way. The way how Firestar accepted it seemed so rushed. He jumped right into accepting a fight. I can totally understand why Blackstar may dislike him for this. Firestar gave up a piece of their territory to him, only ending up taking it back. Firestar even told Blackstar that he knows ThunderClan has enough prey to spare for his own Clan, but not ShadowClan? Firestar said so a long time ago in PoT that the piece of territory was prey-poor! Why the heck would he use prey as an excuse to take it back?
Honestly, this scene really bothered me. It was out of character, written poorly and some of it didn't even make sense. The battle was a waste too, and while I dislike Flametail, I do understand why he hates ThunderClan. The battle was unfair, and knowing how prideful Blackstar is, he definitely won't just give it back.
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Post by Leapingdawn on Oct 22, 2016 21:09:20 GMT -5
It's been awhile since I've read that book (I'm almost there, though), but yeah, Firestar is literally the "Woah hold on guys, let's not jump to even some remotely plausible explanations and avoid battle at all costs" guy
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Post by pastelpills on Oct 23, 2016 10:19:24 GMT -5
Erins' desire to create as much drama as possible
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Post by Dᴀɴɴʏ Pʜᴀɴᴛᴏᴍ on Oct 23, 2016 12:44:33 GMT -5
It wasn't a flaw of Firestar's; it was just a poorly written, rushed plot device. It was so bad that I don't even consider it canon in my own personal headcanon.
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Post by pastelpills on Oct 23, 2016 13:13:47 GMT -5
It wasn't a flaw of Firestar's; it was just a poorly written, rushed plot device. It was so bad that I don't even consider it canon in my own personal headcanon. Exactly. I give your post 20/10.
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Post by tiger beetle on Oct 23, 2016 13:24:42 GMT -5
yes this is one of my OOTS characterization complaints
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Post by mEmE on Oct 23, 2016 14:57:06 GMT -5
Poor Russetfur
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Post by 𝕡𝕖𝕡𝕡𝕖𝕣𝕞𝕚𝕟𝕥 on Oct 23, 2016 15:56:23 GMT -5
I regret making this.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Oct 24, 2016 1:46:37 GMT -5
I regret making this. Oh my goodness. On a more serious note, I actually agree, this was a poorly written scene, too much was lost only Ivypaw's word, an apprentice, and it was actually Tigerstar's word. It's quite ridiculous imo.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Oct 24, 2016 9:22:28 GMT -5
[ ✎ I guess you could say Tigerstar got to finally kill Firestar..]
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