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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 17:47:29 GMT -5
How do you feel when people do this? This isn't directed to anyone, but I know everyone has experienced this at least once. For example: On the original forums, I said I didn't like Jayfeather. Someone said to me, "Well, how would you feel if you had to grow up with a prophecy, couldn't have a mate..."
Like?? I can't relate?? Personally I don't really believe in prophecies, and secondly Jayfeather's life isn't really relatable, and even if people do relate to characters, please, just, don't compare fictional character feelings to someone's real feelings you don't even know. You don't know the person. What if they do understand how the character feels, but they don't like their actions?
I just.. really dislike it when people do this. We can relate to some characters, but it isn't fair to compare our feelings since you don't know us. Especially when it sometimes doesn't even make sense.
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Post by lazy penguin on Oct 20, 2016 17:51:48 GMT -5
I'm actually okay with it because it can be a legitimate reason a person likes a character. However, when used to try and convert someone to your side of the argument it can be pretty useless especially if the other doesn't have the same reaction to certain things than you.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Oct 20, 2016 18:00:33 GMT -5
I'm actually okay with it because it can be a legitimate reason a person likes a character. However, when used to try and convert someone to your side of the argument it can be pretty useless especially if the other doesn't have the same reaction to certain things than you. Pretty much this. If the characters don't feel relatable, understandable, realistic to a sense, then it's hard for a lot of people to actually like them, let alone feel anything toward them, including opinions. The whole point of a book is to dive you into it's pages and surround you in your imagination, especially fictional ones. How can one do this is the characters don't live up to the plot, or vice versa, and the reader is unable to connect with them? |
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Post by kinkajou on Oct 22, 2016 21:23:03 GMT -5
I don't really care all that much about it, but it is a pretty bad argument because everyone would have different reactions to stuff
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Post by Aspenflame on Oct 22, 2016 22:58:01 GMT -5
I have to agree. There are many cats in the Warriors universe that are relatable. Poor Jaybae isn't one of them. It is pretty impossible to compare someone to a fictional character that has powers beyond the real world and is a completely different species. =/ This is very opinionated as people view characters in different ways. That person probably viewed it completely different to you.
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Post by Aspenflame on Oct 22, 2016 22:58:54 GMT -5
I don't really care all that much about it, but it is a pretty bad argument because everyone would have different reactions to stuff Yeah. I have to agree. |
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Post by tiger beetle on Oct 23, 2016 16:07:29 GMT -5
I feel like considering how you/someone would react in a situation can be helpful, but most people who make the argument seem to feel that there is only one possible way to act, when that is not true
like I feel like there's a difference between "during Outcast, Breezepelt is understandable: consider this scene" and "but you would act the same way as Breezepelt in Outcast if it happened to you"
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Post by Mistybreeze on Oct 23, 2016 16:35:00 GMT -5
I think it depends what the discussion is about. I've seen people hating on Dovewing for being overwhelmed by the prophecy and Ivypool being jealous of Dovewing even though about reactions are normal given the situation. I explained to these people why they behaved the way they did by using human feelings since they were meant to represent real life issues that some children may face. But using it in a CMM is a very bad tactic, but when feelings or behaviors are the focus of the debate, then it's fine within reason.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2016 0:38:36 GMT -5
I think it depends. Sometimes people have a hard time relating or understanding someone's motives unless they have been in that place themselves, so the only way to make them understand is to put it in perspective. As long as people explain the situation in a relatable way and don't just say, "Well you would do the same thing if you were in Bob's position!" I think it's fine
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