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Post by 🍁Searipple101🍁 on Oct 11, 2016 21:47:20 GMT -5
I'm glad you're figuring things out, but I have a legit question. Nothing against anyone, but I'm really curious how you can feel like a guy some days and a girl the others? I honestly don't understand, like what makes someone feel like a guy and what makes someone feel like a girl? Honestly not trying to offend my one, just curious. im not even sure if its possible for gender to be put into words. its just something you feel, and ts indescribable. you can be a feminine boy or a masculine girl. gender doesnt have to do with what you like or what your parts are, its just who you are. im sorry if i made you more confused, haha Nah, that actually helps. It's kind of how I think about love. It's just something you feel and not really a thing to be described. Thank you for helping ^^
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Post by Yoshimi on Oct 11, 2016 21:47:47 GMT -5
This thread is going nowhere.
Also, good for you Sour Candy if you believe this will set matters right in the most direct way possible. Yes, I think thats it.
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Post by Bramblestar on Oct 11, 2016 21:59:32 GMT -5
You decided to call me offensive, obnoxious, and ignorant all because I said someone called me gay? What's going through your mind? I called you that for implying somebody could ~become genderfluid~ through liking a dumb cat series or something, oh my God. Now that you mention it, though, that gay thing was tacky, so maybe chill on it. Edit: if you want an actual explanation, though, treating gay as an insult is pretty rude, because for a lot of people, gay is just their identity. Well I guess I owe you an explanation too, I threw it as a joke, which it was thrown at me as. I thought that was made obvious by the strike? Maybe I should have said that I wasn't serious, but if I did do that, the joke wouldn't be funny.
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Post by cal ✩ on Oct 11, 2016 22:03:26 GMT -5
Glad you are figuring yourself out! c: I hope everyone is supportive for you!!
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Post by Sour Candy on Oct 11, 2016 22:07:38 GMT -5
I called you that for implying somebody could ~become genderfluid~ through liking a dumb cat series or something, oh my God. Now that you mention it, though, that gay thing was tacky, so maybe chill on it. Edit: if you want an actual explanation, though, treating gay as an insult is pretty rude, because for a lot of people, gay is just their identity. Well I guess I owe you an explanation too, I threw it as a joke, which it was thrown at me as. I thought that was made obvious by the strike? Maybe I should have said that I wasn't serious, but if I did do that, the joke wouldn't be funny. Dude, just back off. I know from experience that trying to justify yourself for doing something dumb is a bad idea.
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Post by poppy. on Oct 11, 2016 22:10:18 GMT -5
This thread is getting very heated and I think it would be best if everyone just dropped the troubles with what Bramblestar said and allow the conversation to go back to where it was originally directed by Sour Candy. It would be far better that way rather than endlessly and uselessly pursuing an argument over a poorly made joke and the consequences of it.
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Post by Bramblestar on Oct 11, 2016 22:10:32 GMT -5
Well I guess I owe you an explanation too, I threw it as a joke, which it was thrown at me as. I thought that was made obvious by the strike? Maybe I should have said that I wasn't serious, but if I did do that, the joke wouldn't be funny. Dude, just back off. I know from experience that trying to justify yourself for doing something dumb is a bad idea. I didn't do something dumb, and I'm not going to justify myself because I don't have to. If you took it as an insult, then you did. I'm not going to apologize for something that I never intended to offend with.
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Post by Sand 🎃 on Oct 11, 2016 22:11:52 GMT -5
Cool it down, guys. Arguing over it isn't going to change things and if you see a comment you don't agree with on here, then please, if you want to "debate" with the person on it, take it to PM or another thread. If it gets too hostile or heated, you know what'll happen. If someone wants you to stop, then listen to them; making the issue works isn't going to help either of you out.
Thank youu.
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Post by cal ✩ on Oct 11, 2016 22:12:00 GMT -5
time 2 start up the discourse machine™ apparently ...
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Post by Yoshimi on Oct 11, 2016 22:13:46 GMT -5
Ah, mortals, the epitome of black holes; never-ending information, despite its counter-intuitive nature.
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Post by Sanders on Oct 11, 2016 22:13:55 GMT -5
Dude, just back off. I know from experience that trying to justify yourself for doing something dumb is a bad idea. I didn't do something dumb, and I'm not going to justify myself because I don't have to. If you took it as an insult, then you did. I'm not going to apologize for something that I never intended to offend with. um... if you say something offensive, whether or not you meant to be offensive doesn't matter. you should still apologize because it was offensive. just because you didn't mean it to be offensive or didn't know it would be doesn't make it less offensive.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2016 22:15:24 GMT -5
Dude, just back off. I know from experience that trying to justify yourself for doing something dumb is a bad idea. I didn't do something dumb, and I'm not going to justify myself because I don't have to. If you took it as an insult, then you did. I'm not going to apologize for something that I never intended to offend with. [steps on your toe] Well, I don't have to apologize, because I didn't try to do it! Good thing intentions are the only things that matter ever and being polite and respectful is completely unnecessary.
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Post by Bramblestar on Oct 11, 2016 22:17:15 GMT -5
I didn't do something dumb, and I'm not going to justify myself because I don't have to. If you took it as an insult, then you did. I'm not going to apologize for something that I never intended to offend with. um... if you say something offensive, whether or not you meant to be offensive doesn't matter. you should still apologize because it was offensive. just because you didn't mean it to be offensive or didn't know it would be doesn't make it less offensive. It's not my responsibility to keep you away from offensive things, especially if I don't even know if something is offensive.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2016 22:19:14 GMT -5
um... if you say something offensive, whether or not you meant to be offensive doesn't matter. you should still apologize because it was offensive. just because you didn't mean it to be offensive or didn't know it would be doesn't make it less offensive. It's not my responsibility to keep you away from offensive things, especially if I don't even know if something is offensive. It's sort of generally considered the right thing to do to not be a jerk (for lack of a better, forum-appropriate word) about things, so. Maybe not a responsibility, but you know, a cool recommendation. I was gonna drop it at your explanation, but your weird Edge about how you don't have to avoid offending those darn SJWs!!!! is just... yikes.
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Post by Bramblestar on Oct 11, 2016 22:20:56 GMT -5
I didn't do something dumb, and I'm not going to justify myself because I don't have to. If you took it as an insult, then you did. I'm not going to apologize for something that I never intended to offend with. [steps on your toe] Well, I don't have to apologize, because I didn't try to do it! Good thing intentions are the only things that matter ever and being polite and respectful is completely unnecessary. I don't think all the outrage is justified, that's why I won't apologize. Would you rather me be forced to apologize or know that I actually meant it? With that, I'm done with this thread.
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Post by Sand 🎃 on Oct 11, 2016 22:21:54 GMT -5
Bramblestar, December-- please stop. If you didn't see my post, read it now please. I'll repost it if needed.
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Post by Sanders on Oct 11, 2016 22:22:02 GMT -5
um... if you say something offensive, whether or not you meant to be offensive doesn't matter. you should still apologize because it was offensive. just because you didn't mean it to be offensive or didn't know it would be doesn't make it less offensive. It's not my responsibility to keep you away from offensive things, especially if I don't even know if something is offensive. if you say something offensive and someone tells you it is offensive you have to own up to your actions whether or not you meant them to be offensive or not. it is taking responsibility for what you did. not what im doing. but if you're going to pretend that what you said is only offensive because people are oversensitive, then you probably don't care about what im saying anyway.
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Post by Sour Candy on Oct 11, 2016 22:22:14 GMT -5
Gg bramble
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2016 22:23:32 GMT -5
Bramblestar, December-- please stop. If you didn't see my post, read it now please. I'll repost it if needed. Didn't see it until after I sent the last one, sorry.
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Post by Sand 🎃 on Oct 11, 2016 22:25:19 GMT -5
It's fine. If you two really want to drag it out, you can PM me and I'll moderate as you go on with it. I don't believe that's worth doing unless it solves something for the both of you.
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Holly Snow
My full names are Hollyleaf;) and Snowwing™
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Post by Holly Snow on Oct 11, 2016 22:26:31 GMT -5
I'm glad you're figuring things out, but I have a legit question. Nothing against anyone, but I'm really curious how you can feel like a guy some days and a girl the others? I honestly don't understand, like what makes someone feel like a guy and what makes someone feel like a girl? Honestly not trying to offend my one, just curious. I've always tried to understand gender in this way; if you one day woke up with different genitals how would you feel? I guess with some people that feeling would change depending upon the time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2016 22:26:40 GMT -5
It's fine. If you two really want to drag it out, you can PM me and I'll moderate as you go on with it. I don't believe that's worth doing unless it solves something for the both of you. Nah, I have a paper to write, and I have a feeling that Bramblestar doesn't really care about whether or not others have been offended. I'm not sure it would accomplish much. Thanks for the offer, though!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2016 22:27:57 GMT -5
yet another thread in forum history that didnt have to get heated at all... im not trying to offend anyone with this statement, but i know i probably will everyone on the internet just needs to learn that sometimes you're wrong. they then need to learn that arguing doesnt make you right. everyone on the internet is a real person and has real, valid feelings that can be hurt except tumblr/instagram spambots. be respectful to one another, because you dont know what you're doing to the other human on the other side of the screen.
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Post by Sand 🎃 on Oct 11, 2016 22:29:02 GMT -5
It's fine. If you two really want to drag it out, you can PM me and I'll moderate as you go on with it. I don't believe that's worth doing unless it solves something for the both of you. Nah, I have a paper to write, and I have a feeling that Bramblestar doesn't really care about whether or not others have been offended. I'm not sure it would accomplish much. Thanks for the offer, though! Good luck with your paper, I really hope it's not for an English class ;a;' you're welcome ~
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2016 22:29:07 GMT -5
It's fine. If you two really want to drag it out, you can PM me and I'll moderate as you go on with it. I don't believe that's worth doing unless it solves something for the both of you. Nah, I have a paper to write, and I have a feeling that Bramblestar doesn't really care about whether or not others have been offended. I'm not sure it would accomplish much. Thanks for the offer, though! go write your paper!! ace it!
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Post by Sour Candy on Oct 11, 2016 22:30:39 GMT -5
I'm glad you're figuring things out, but I have a legit question. Nothing against anyone, but I'm really curious how you can feel like a guy some days and a girl the others? I honestly don't understand, like what makes someone feel like a guy and what makes someone feel like a girl? Honestly not trying to offend my one, just curious. I've always tried to understand gender in this way; if you one day woke up with different genitals how would you feel? I guess with some people that feeling would change depending upon the time. You saying that reminded me of a week or two ago when I woke up and thought I was a girl for like a solid twenty minutes and was confused for a second when I looked in the mirror o3o" It was weird and I still don't know why it happened
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Post by Ginz on Oct 11, 2016 22:32:30 GMT -5
I've always tried to understand gender in this way; if you one day woke up with different genitals how would you feel? I guess with some people that feeling would change depending upon the time. You saying that reminded me of a week or two ago when I woke up and thought I was a girl for like a solid twenty minutes and was confused for a second when I looked in the mirror o3o" It was weird and I still don't know why it happened i guess that shows to give more evidence you're genderfluid, but idk. could be something else
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Post by qυeeɴ oғ ɢнoѕтlιɴɢѕ on Oct 11, 2016 22:32:44 GMT -5
I'm happy for you, friend. I hope things will be less confusing for you from here on out. I'll be supporting you ^^
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Post by Sour Candy on Oct 11, 2016 22:35:25 GMT -5
You saying that reminded me of a week or two ago when I woke up and thought I was a girl for like a solid twenty minutes and was confused for a second when I looked in the mirror o3o" It was weird and I still don't know why it happened i guess that shows to give more evidence you're genderfluid, but idk. could be something else Now that I think about it, I think it was because around that time my cousin was telling me about being transgender, and he was talking about this one time he woke up thinking he was a 38-year-old man in Norway for about a half hour. I guess my brain likes to mimic things idk
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Post by Basement Cat on Oct 11, 2016 23:15:35 GMT -5
Eh. Whatever you feel comfortable with, SC. Just let me know what you prefer.
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