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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Oct 3, 2016 11:06:59 GMT -5
According to Su, Mapleshade's Vengeance takes place six years after Cloudstar's Journey and Ravenpaw's Farewell does indeed take place during OotS, and it specifically begins during the time of Fading Echoes when Ivypaw first trains with Hawkfrost in the Dark Forest.
EDIT: Correction, make that eight years. And here's the little timeline that Su made.
Year 0 -> SkyClan leaves middle of greenleaf
Year 1 -> Nothing
Year 2 -> Nothing
Year 3 -> Nothing
Year 4 -> Nothing
Year 5 -> Nothing
Year 6 -> Nothing
Year 7 -> Nothing
Year 8 -> End of summer, Mapleshades Vengeance starts, end of leaf-fall, Mapleshades Vengeance ends
Year 9 -> Nothing
Year 10 -> Nothing
Year 11 -> Pinestar's Choice starts
Year 12 -> Nothing
Year 13 -> Nothing
Year 14 -> Nothing
Year 15 -> Nothing
Year 16 -> Nothing
Year 17 -> Goosefeather's Curse starts at the start of newleaf
Year 18 -> Goosefeathers Curse ends at the start of newleaf, Tallkit is born at the start of leaf-bare
Year 19 -> Tallstar's Revenge is going on, Yellowkit is born at the start of greenleaf
Year 20 -> Bluekit is born in newleaf
Su has also said that the two Sloefurs, Seedpelts, and Reedshines are not the same cats, but the Larkwing that appears in CJ is the same one in MV.
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Post by *Faith* on Oct 3, 2016 11:15:29 GMT -5
Er...so Mapleshade's Vengeance takes place six years after CJ. But then...where is Birdflight, Gorseclaw and Spottedpelt? Unless they were already dead by that point. Though they could have been there and just weren't put into the allegiances. And RF takes place during OOTS? Hmmm...
SATS takes place during TNP (I think) and Cherrytail is pregnant with kits in After the Flood. So wouldn't her kits already be warriors by the time of OOTS?
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Post by *Faith* on Oct 3, 2016 11:25:00 GMT -5
I just remembered something, but Vicky once stated that SkyClan was exiled from the forest 20 years before Bluestar was born.
6 + 9 + 2 = 18
Hmmm...did I miss something here? Math was never my strongest subject.
EDIT: 17 years, not 18. |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Oct 3, 2016 11:28:32 GMT -5
Er...so Mapleshade's Vengeance takes place six years after CJ. But then...where is Birdflight, Gorseclaw and Spottedpelt? Unless they were already dead by that point. Though they could have been there and just weren't put into the allegiances. And RF takes place during OOTS? Hmmm... SATS takes place during TNP (I think) and Cherrytail is pregnant with kits in After the Flood. So wouldn't her kits already be warriors by the time of OOTS? Well, Cherrytail's kits were never stated in RF either, and if one of the apprentices in the book are her kits, then it's possible she could've had a second litter. |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Oct 3, 2016 11:31:18 GMT -5
I just remembered something, but Vicky once stated that SkyClan was exiled from the forest 20 years before Bluestar was born. 6 + 9 + 2 = 18 Hmmm...did I miss something here? Math was never my strongest subject. Same here. I had a feeling there was something a little off, though. MV takes place six years after CJ. PC takes place three years after Mapleshade's death. GC takes place nine years after MV and two years before BP. |
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Post by pastelpills on Oct 3, 2016 11:48:17 GMT -5
Er...so Mapleshade's Vengeance takes place six years after CJ. But then...where is Birdflight, Gorseclaw and Spottedpelt? Unless they were already dead by that point. Though they could have been there and just weren't put into the allegiances. And RF takes place during OOTS? Hmmm... SATS takes place during TNP (I think) and Cherrytail is pregnant with kits in After the Flood. So wouldn't her kits already be warriors by the time of OOTS? Maybe they just were not mentioned |
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Post by *Faith* on Oct 3, 2016 12:22:03 GMT -5
I'm glad she fixed that. ^.^
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Oct 3, 2016 13:16:56 GMT -5
Bump
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Post by *Faith* on Oct 3, 2016 15:45:13 GMT -5
Larkwing must have been pretty old. And I'm still wondering about Spottedpelt and Gorseclaw. Are they already dead by this point?
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Post by kinkajou on Oct 3, 2016 15:49:54 GMT -5
Aw I wanted the Sloefurs to be the same cat. That would make an awesome story
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Post by Jaysnow on Oct 3, 2016 17:51:29 GMT -5
Er...so Mapleshade's Vengeance takes place six years after CJ. But then...where is Birdflight, Gorseclaw and Spottedpelt? Unless they were already dead by that point. Though they could have been there and just weren't put into the allegiances. And RF takes place during OOTS? Hmmm... SATS takes place during TNP (I think) and Cherrytail is pregnant with kits in After the Flood. So wouldn't her kits already be warriors by the time of OOTS? I doubt Birdflight would be alive...Gorseclaw and Spottedpelt could have died or were elders. I agree...I just wish we knew who their kits were. I hope we get that HJ sample soon... |
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Post by Mistybreeze on Oct 3, 2016 20:00:01 GMT -5
Nope, the timeline is wrong. I did the math and RF takes place around TS and DR. They've gotten the timeline wrong before, so I don't see why something that makes absolutely no sense is suddenly the official timeline.
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Post by Lightflame on Oct 3, 2016 20:15:12 GMT -5
Su has also said that the two Sloefurs...are not the same cat Blasphemy. |
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Oct 3, 2016 21:55:55 GMT -5
Nope, the timeline is wrong. I did the math and RF takes place around TS and DR. They've gotten the timeline wrong before, so I don't see why something that makes absolutely no sense is suddenly the official timeline. Well, how did you work out that it takes place around TS and DR? |
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Post by Mistybreeze on Oct 3, 2016 22:30:48 GMT -5
Nope, the timeline is wrong. I did the math and RF takes place around TS and DR. They've gotten the timeline wrong before, so I don't see why something that makes absolutely no sense is suddenly the official timeline. Well, how did you work out that it takes place around TS and DR? I went by what was mentioned in the books. 5 moons passed between FQ and SD. Roughly 9 moons between the end of SD and the manga. >1-8 moons from the manga to SATS.
Given the description of some of the apprentices in RF, it is clear that Sharpclaw's kits were some of the apprentices. That would mean that RF takes place roughly 9-15 moons later. Thinking about it now, it could be possible RF took place in OOTS. But does seem to rather unlikely. Clovertail's younger kits were said to be young apprentices, making them 6-7 moons old in SATS. All of the apprentices in RF were also said to be young. I know we don't have official ages for any of them, but given the context from the books, RF taking place in TS or DR makes the most sense.
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Post by ๐ฃ๐ฒ๐ท๐พ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฎ๐ต on Oct 3, 2016 23:04:16 GMT -5
Well, how did you work out that it takes place around TS and DR? I went by what was mentioned in the books. 5 moons passed between FQ and SD. Roughly 9 moons between the end of SD and the manga. >1-8 moons from the manga to SATS.
Given the description of some of the apprentices in RF, it is clear that Sharpclaw's kits were some of the apprentices. That would mean that RF takes place roughly 9-15 moons later. Thinking about it now, it could be possible RF took place in OOTS. But does seem to rather unlikely. Clovertail's younger kits were said to be young apprentices, making them 6-7 moons old in SATS. All of the apprentices in RF were also said to be young. I know we don't have official ages for any of them, but given the context from the books, RF taking place in TS or DR makes the most sense.
I guess I do see your reasoning, but then again, who's to say that some of the apprentices aren't simply part of another litter? Perhaps Sharpclaw and Cherrytail simply had more kits if the timeline is correct. |
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Post by Mistybreeze on Oct 4, 2016 0:47:17 GMT -5
I went by what was mentioned in the books. 5 moons passed between FQ and SD. Roughly 9 moons between the end of SD and the manga. >1-8 moons from the manga to SATS.
Given the description of some of the apprentices in RF, it is clear that Sharpclaw's kits were some of the apprentices. That would mean that RF takes place roughly 9-15 moons later. Thinking about it now, it could be possible RF took place in OOTS. But does seem to rather unlikely. Clovertail's younger kits were said to be young apprentices, making them 6-7 moons old in SATS. All of the apprentices in RF were also said to be young. I know we don't have official ages for any of them, but given the context from the books, RF taking place in TS or DR makes the most sense.
I guess I do see your reasoning, but then again, who's to say that some of the apprentices aren't simply part of another litter? Perhaps Sharpclaw and Cherrytail simply had more kits if the timeline is correct. That just seems way too convenient to be true. Firefern also appeared to be a young warrior given her actions in RF. I know there are other possibilities, but everything just seems to all add perfectly to RF taking place in early POT. Too perfectly to ignore. |
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