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Post by mEmE on Sept 17, 2016 23:17:31 GMT -5
I refuse to believe brightflower and Lilywhisker went to the DF, I don't give a [Oops! Keep language forum appropriate!] if it's confirmed for crap or not. [Oops! Keep language forum appropriate!] stupid the Erin's logic, like I said, they're all biased [Oops! Keep language forum appropriate!]. Which then shows that StarClan are also biased and corrupt [Oops! Keep language forum appropriate!]. The fact that there is no set definite using for who goes to the DF or not just makes the entire logic absolutely [Oops! Keep language forum appropriate!], it also makes he DF completely pointless.
It's so god damn vague, might as well make Bluestar [Oops! Keep language forum appropriate!] off to the DF cuz she did cause a lot of [Oops! Keep language forum appropriate!] during her leadership. Might as well send half of the current cats cuz why not? This just shows that the Erin's are like StarClan, bunch of [Oops! Keep language forum appropriate!] [Oops! Keep language forum appropriate!] that control every single [Oops! Keep language forum appropriate!] thing and make things the at they like it even though it is completely brain damaged logic.
There's a god damn reason why we have SET LAWS. There's a reason why the judge doesn't always have absolute power over what happens to the accused. StarClan was always treated as ancestors, the first concept of a dark forest was dumb enough, now we all know that the entry completely depends on whether THE [Oops! Keep language forum appropriate!] ERINS WANT IT OR NOT. Absolutely racist and biased. "Oh he is from a black clan? [Oops! Keep language forum appropriate!] her sideways and send her to the DF cuz a black clan are all evil beings and have no remorse" while [Oops! Keep language forum appropriate!] in ThunderClan get to do insane [Oops! Keep language forum appropriate!] and still enjoy the luxuries reserved just for white supremacy.
[Oops! Keep language forum appropriate!] the Erin's and their stupid logic, this better be unconfirmed, cuz it's just makin them look for brain damaged by the minute. [Oops! Keep language forum appropriate!], they COMPLETELY destroyed the purpose of the dark forest smh.
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Post by Amber on Sept 17, 2016 23:20:00 GMT -5
I don't entirely blame the Erins, though they have 98%-99% of the fault. In this case, I blame this Su character. According to what I've heard others say, she's the one who "confirmed" which cats went where. But still, Vicky is allowing her to do this, so in the end, it's probably Vicky's fault. (Though as some else said, how do you get race from a bunch of cats?  ) |
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Post by Soαrιɴɢ Bloѕѕoмѕ ✿ on Sept 17, 2016 23:22:40 GMT -5
Woah there buddy!
That's a lot of [Oops! Keep language forum appropriate!]s there, so I'm guessing this isn't a very positive post, lololol
While I do agree that the logic seems to be flawed, it's probably just a bunch of plot holes and stuff. I wouldn't think too much about it.
Also, I have no idea how you get racism out of this. Like, totally unrelated.
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Post by kinkajou on Sept 18, 2016 0:27:41 GMT -5
Yeah it's really stupid. I really really hope this person isn't legit
but I agree with sakubi I don't see how it has anything to do with racism...
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Post by mEmE on Sept 18, 2016 0:37:24 GMT -5
Yeah it's really stupid. I really really hope this person isn't legit but I agree with sakubi I don't see how it has anything to do with racism... Not directly related, was an analogy me and my friend came up with before. How ShadowClan have always been the bad guys and discriminated against by the authors because they're the more "black" or darker clan |
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Post by Soαrιɴɢ Bloѕѕoмѕ ✿ on Sept 18, 2016 0:50:49 GMT -5
Well I wouldn't say it's discrimination as much as it's an obvious difference in morals between the clans.
Thunderclan focuses on different aspects of the warrior code than Shadowclan does, therefore developing a different culture. All the clans have their own internal prejudices against the other clans, but that's not something that the Erins are imposing just for the funsies. It's an essential plot point that helps push things along.
You could actually argue that Shadowclan are the most prejudiced of all the clans. They're putting down the other clans, labeling them as weak, unwilling to cooperate 90% of the time, putting down Thunderclan for accepting new non-clan members, ect. It's no wonder that Thunder and Shadow serve as a sort of antithesis to each other.
Also, Riverclan, in the OG series has had it's fair share of "bad guy" moments, and Windclan has been seen as negative for the last two book arcs (excluding DotC), and especially in this one. If anything, Shadowclan is the more empathized of the four clans in VoS due to their situation, but even then, I can't say that they didn't entirely deserve it.
Therefore, it's definitely not racism or anything like that. And calling Shadowclan the "black" clan is just a flawed association that no one else really had. The clans have always had their tensions w/ each other. Shadowclan just sticks out more since they're meant to be the opposites of Thunderclan, for better and for worse.
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Post by mEmE on Sept 18, 2016 0:55:43 GMT -5
Well I wouldn't say it's discrimination as much as it's an obvious difference in morals between the clans. Thunderclan focuses on different aspects of the warrior code than Shadowclan does, therefore developing a different culture. All the clans have their own internal prejudices against the other clans, but that's not something that the Erins are imposing just for the funsies. It's an essential plot point that helps push things along. You could actually argue that Shadowclan are the most prejudiced of all the clans. They're putting down the other clans, labeling them as weak, unwilling to cooperate 90% of the time, putting down Thunderclan for accepting new non-clan members, ect. It's no wonder that Thunder and Shadow serve as a sort of antithesis to each other. Also, Riverclan, in the OG series has had it's fair share of "bad guy" moments, and Windclan has been seen as negative for the last two book arcs (excluding DotC), and especially in this one. If anything, Shadowclan is the more empathized of the four clans in VoS due to their situation, but even then, I can't say that they didn't entirely deserve it. Therefore, it's definitely not racism or anything like that. And calling Shadowclan the "black" clan is just a flawed association that no one else really had. The clans have always had their tensions w/ each other. Shadowclan just sticks out more since they're meant to be the opposites of Thunderclan, for better and for worse. Woah there, no need to write 4 paragraphs on something that was never meant to be taken seriously. Was just a stupid analogy that me and my friend came up with. Even though my wording in my initial post is flawed. ShadowClan being the "black clan" was something made up, totally irrelevant and doesn't need to be talked about because it was never meant to be taken seriously. That said, I will still withold my belief that the Erin's are showing the perfect example of racism, bias, and favouritism throughout these books |
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Post by Soαrιɴɢ Bloѕѕoмѕ ✿ on Sept 18, 2016 0:59:22 GMT -5
Well I wouldn't say it's discrimination as much as it's an obvious difference in morals between the clans. Thunderclan focuses on different aspects of the warrior code than Shadowclan does, therefore developing a different culture. All the clans have their own internal prejudices against the other clans, but that's not something that the Erins are imposing just for the funsies. It's an essential plot point that helps push things along. You could actually argue that Shadowclan are the most prejudiced of all the clans. They're putting down the other clans, labeling them as weak, unwilling to cooperate 90% of the time, putting down Thunderclan for accepting new non-clan members, ect. It's no wonder that Thunder and Shadow serve as a sort of antithesis to each other. Also, Riverclan, in the OG series has had it's fair share of "bad guy" moments, and Windclan has been seen as negative for the last two book arcs (excluding DotC), and especially in this one. If anything, Shadowclan is the more empathized of the four clans in VoS due to their situation, but even then, I can't say that they didn't entirely deserve it. Therefore, it's definitely not racism or anything like that. And calling Shadowclan the "black" clan is just a flawed association that no one else really had. The clans have always had their tensions w/ each other. Shadowclan just sticks out more since they're meant to be the opposites of Thunderclan, for better and for worse. Woah there, no need to write 4 paragraphs on something that was never meant to be taken seriously. Was just a stupid analogy that me and my friend came up with. Even though my wording in my initial post is flawed. ShadowClan being the "black clan" was something made up, totally irrelevant and doesn't need to be talked about because it was never meant to be taken seriously. That said, I will still withold my belief that the Erin's are showing the perfect example of racism, bias, and favouritism throughout these books Sorry I just felt like offering my thoughts. There's no greater meaning to it besides the fact that I love analysis and I wanted to minor in English but triple minoring would lead me to an early grave. |
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Post by mEmE on Sept 18, 2016 1:04:02 GMT -5
Sorry I just felt like offering my thoughts. There's no greater meaning to it besides the fact that I love analysis and I wanted to minor in English but triple minoring would lead me to an early grave.[/quote]
Don't apologize, sorry I didn't word the sarcasm clear in the post, I like analysis, that's why I like this series, and the very latest confirmation by some random [jerk] is tossing a lot of relevant stuff out the window in favour of garbage.
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Post by Lightflame on Sept 18, 2016 3:03:15 GMT -5
Wait, so you equated ShadowClan with black people solely because they've done bad stuff, and you equated ThunderClan with white people because they've done good stuff, but the Erins are the racist ones?
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Post by nem on Sept 18, 2016 6:48:55 GMT -5
I think that was a joke. I can't find any evidence of it.
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Post by mEmE on Sept 18, 2016 7:47:02 GMT -5
Wait, so you equated ShadowClan with black people solely because they've done bad stuff, and you equated ThunderClan with white people because they've done good stuff, but the Erins are the racist ones? Jeez, I already stated it was a relative analogy, you're thinking of the opposite way. |
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