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Post by nem on Sept 16, 2016 15:48:49 GMT -5
Kate just confirmed that the litter that Snowbird had in Eclipse was Rippletail(ShadowClan), Cloverfoot and Berryheart. Those three cats are confirmed to the the kits of Scorchfur. "...Also on Snowbird’s page it says she had two litters. She was mentioned to have her second litter in Bramblestar’s Storm. There were apparently three she-kits. Yarrowleaf and Beenose were introduced in TAQ so obviously they had to have been two of those three kits. What happened to the third kit? Also she’s confirmed to be the mother of Berryheart, Rippletail, and Cloverfoot. They’re all new to the allegiance in TAQ like they’re younger siblings so I’m wondering if they were recently just born even though that’s a short amount of time between pregnancies or were they the litter she was expecting in Eclipse that was never heard of again? If that’s so then they’re older than I expected...." "... the third she-kit died young and they were the litter she was expecting in Eclipse." Poor Scorchfur.  |
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 16, 2016 19:41:46 GMT -5
Interesting. I wonder how that went down, considering apprentices don't normally have kits. This calls for a fanfiction! XD Or maybe Kate just didn't realize that Scorchfur was an apprentice at the time and it was just unintentional. ^^" Either way, yeah, poor Scorchfur. Thanks for sharing this, Juniper.  |
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Post by Amber on Sept 16, 2016 19:50:08 GMT -5
You think someone should point out to Kate that Scorchfur was an apprentice at the time?
Now, if he stays the father of her kits as an apprentice. The only thing I can think of is maybe he was a loner around the age of a warrior who joined the Clan for Snowbird. While he trained under the name Smokepaw, it turned out she was expecting his kits.
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Post by nem on Sept 16, 2016 20:00:02 GMT -5
You think someone should point out to Kate that Scorchfur was an apprentice at the time? Now, if he stays the father of her kits as an apprentice. The only thing I can think of is maybe he was a loner around the age of a warrior who joined the Clan for Snowbird. While he trained under the name Smokepaw, it turned out she was expecting his kits. I don't think that would've happened without a big deal being made about it. |
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Post by Amber on Sept 16, 2016 20:07:40 GMT -5
You think someone should point out to Kate that Scorchfur was an apprentice at the time? Now, if he stays the father of her kits as an apprentice. The only thing I can think of is maybe he was a loner around the age of a warrior who joined the Clan for Snowbird. While he trained under the name Smokepaw, it turned out she was expecting his kits. I don't think that would've happened without a big deal being made about it. While you have a point there, the Erins don't always think their plots out thoroughly, especially in terms of the other Clans. Heck, even when the focus is ThunderClan they still get things messed up *coughGoosefeather'sCurseCough*. Anyway, I think this may be another thing the fans present to at least Kate. |
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Post by Dancing_Totodile on Sept 16, 2016 21:25:43 GMT -5
Interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 21:43:06 GMT -5
They probably just forgot that Scorchfur was an apprentice.
Another weird plot holeish thing.
Another case of ****philia.
Kind of.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 17, 2016 17:27:06 GMT -5
Huh, inte4resting. I always headcanoned Pinenose, Ferretclaw and Starlingwing as the kits Snowbird was expecting in Eclipse. And Berryheart, Clovertail and Rippletail as the kits she had in Bramblestar's Storm. I mean...wouldn't Beenose and Yarrowleaf be warriors already by the time of TAQ?
Hmmm....
Also, Kate said that Beenose and Yarrowleaf's sister was named Bluebellkit and that she is white with green eyes. Like her mother. Kate also said she's in StarClan. And Pricklekit (Icewing's kit) died from Greencough.
On top of all this, Kate also confirmed that Roach's mother called him Cricket and he picked up Roach, after a cockroach, as a nickname as a rogue.
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Post by nem on Sept 17, 2016 17:48:35 GMT -5
Huh, inte4resting. I always headcanoned Pinenose, Ferretclaw and Starlingwing as the kits Snowbird was expecting in Eclipse. And Berryheart, Clovertail and Rippletail as the kits she had in Bramblestar's Storm. I mean...wouldn't Beenose and Yarrowleaf be warriors already by the time of TAQ? Hmmm.... Also, Kate said that Beenose and Yarrowleaf's sister was named Bluebellkit and that she is white with green eyes. Like her mother. Kate also said she's in StarClan. And Pricklekit (Icewing's kit) died from Greencough. On top of all this, Kate also confirmed that Roach's mother called him Cricket and he picked up Roach, after a cockroach, as a nickname as a rogue. I think there was only a six moon time skip between Bramblestar's Storm and The Apprentice's Quest, plus Snowbird has three she-kits in Bramblestar's Storm. Rippletail is a male. |
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 17, 2016 17:51:48 GMT -5
Huh, inte4resting. I always headcanoned Pinenose, Ferretclaw and Starlingwing as the kits Snowbird was expecting in Eclipse. And Berryheart, Clovertail and Rippletail as the kits she had in Bramblestar's Storm. I mean...wouldn't Beenose and Yarrowleaf be warriors already by the time of TAQ? Hmmm.... Also, Kate said that Beenose and Yarrowleaf's sister was named Bluebellkit and that she is white with green eyes. Like her mother. Kate also said she's in StarClan. And Pricklekit (Icewing's kit) died from Greencough. On top of all this, Kate also confirmed that Roach's mother called him Cricket and he picked up Roach, after a cockroach, as a nickname as a rogue. I think there was only a six moon time skip between Bramblestar's Storm and The Apprentice's Quest, plus Snowbird has three she-kits in Bramblestar's Storm. Rippletail is a male. Actually there was a six moon skip between BrS and the manga. Cinderheart and Lionblaze's kits became apprentices in it. By the time of TAQ they were already warriors. Snowbird's kits were born first. |
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Post by Amber on Sept 17, 2016 18:09:15 GMT -5
I think there was only a six moon time skip between Bramblestar's Storm and The Apprentice's Quest, plus Snowbird has three she-kits in Bramblestar's Storm. Rippletail is a male. Actually there was a six moon skip between BrS and the manga. Cinderheart and Lionblaze's kits became apprentices in it. By the time of TAQ they were already warriors. Snowbird's kits were born first. I'm pretty sure it was confirmed that 18 moons(18 months or 1 1/2 years) passed between TAQ and BrS. Though I don't remember for sure. |
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 17, 2016 18:15:22 GMT -5
Actually there was a six moon skip between BrS and the manga. Cinderheart and Lionblaze's kits became apprentices in it. By the time of TAQ they were already warriors. Snowbird's kits were born first. I'm pretty sure it was confirmed that 18 moons(18 months or 1 1/2 years) passed between TAQ and BrS. Though I don't remember for sure. Yep, 18 moons between the BrS manga and TAQ. |
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Post by Amber on Sept 17, 2016 18:17:36 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it was confirmed that 18 moons(18 months or 1 1/2 years) passed between TAQ and BrS. Though I don't remember for sure. Yep, 18 moons between the BrS manga and TAQ.
POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOR TAS AHEAD!
Yeah, so why weren't Bluebellkit, Beenose and Yarrowleaf warriors then? Honestly, it's more logical to have Rippletail, Berryheart and her third kit born in BrS rather than the other three. |
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Post by nem on Sept 17, 2016 18:25:53 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it was confirmed that 18 moons(18 months or 1 1/2 years) passed between TAQ and BrS. Though I don't remember for sure. Yep, 18 moons between the BrS manga and TAQ. That would make Sparkpelt and Alderheart warriors then. I thought it was an 18 moon skip between The Last Hope and The Apprentice's Quest. Who knows anymore. |
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Post by kinkajou on Sept 17, 2016 19:58:40 GMT -5
Huh, inte4resting. I always headcanoned Pinenose, Ferretclaw and Starlingwing as the kits Snowbird was expecting in Eclipse. And Berryheart, Clovertail and Rippletail as the kits she had in Bramblestar's Storm. I mean...wouldn't Beenose and Yarrowleaf be warriors already by the time of TAQ? Hmmm.... Also, Kate said that Beenose and Yarrowleaf's sister was named Bluebellkit and that she is white with green eyes. Like her mother. Kate also said she's in StarClan. And Pricklekit (Icewing's kit) died from Greencough. On top of all this, Kate also confirmed that Roach's mother called him Cricket and he picked up Roach, after a cockroach, as a nickname as a rogue. Maybe Bee and Yarrow weren't ready to be warriors yet. You know how ShadowClan apprentices have been acting : p |
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Post by Amber on Sept 17, 2016 22:43:12 GMT -5
I was looking over this. the nuts thing is that Scorchpaw popped into existense as an apprentice in Eclipse. Snowbird was pregnant in Outcast and there are no other listed queens besides Tawneypelt in outcast or prior. If I didn't know better I'd think Scorchfur was Snowbird's son. I hope not, that'd be very distributing. |
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Post by Holly Snow on Sept 17, 2016 22:47:08 GMT -5
I was looking over this. the nuts thing is that Scorchpaw popped into existense as an apprentice in Eclipse. Snowbird was pregnant in Outcast and there are no other listed queens besides Tawneypelt in outcast or prior. If I didn't know better I'd think Scorchfur was Snowbird's son. I hope not, that'd be very distributing. I hope not too. ignoring the incest, Scorchfur would have to be his own father. How does that happen? |
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Post by Faunastar on Sept 17, 2016 22:48:54 GMT -5
Maybe he was an apprentice, and the other cats just didn't know? Because isn't there something about how a queen isn't obligated to tell who the father of the kits was?
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Post by nem on Sept 18, 2016 7:09:34 GMT -5
I was looking over this. the nuts thing is that Scorchpaw popped into existense as an apprentice in Eclipse. Snowbird was pregnant in Outcast and there are no other listed queens besides Tawneypelt in outcast or prior. If I didn't know better I'd think Scorchfur was Snowbird's son. Wow!1!!1 Magically aging kits!1!1! Who knew that kits being expected could suddenly grow six moons!1!!1 |
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Post by nem on Sept 18, 2016 7:12:55 GMT -5
Maybe he was an apprentice, and the other cats just didn't know? Because isn't there something about how a queen isn't obligated to tell who the father of the kits was? Yes. It's still not right, despite that. |
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Post by Faunastar on Sept 18, 2016 9:58:42 GMT -5
Maybe he was an apprentice, and the other cats just didn't know? Because isn't there something about how a queen isn't obligated to tell who the father of the kits was? Yes. It's still not right, despite that. He could have been older than the typical apprentice age, though. Maybe he was delayed in becoming a warrior because he wasn't acting right, breaking rules? Or they just thought he wasn't ready so he ended up staying an apprentice for a while. I'm probably giving them way too much credit for this mistake though  |
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Post by andy on Sept 18, 2016 10:02:37 GMT -5
Yes. It's still not right, despite that. He could have been older than the typical apprentice age, though. Maybe he was delayed in becoming a warrior because he wasn't acting right, breaking rules? Or they just thought he wasn't ready so he ended up staying an apprentice for a while. I'm probably giving them way too much credit for this mistake though It's true he could've been older, but if he's still an apprentice he still counts as a minor of the warrior cats universe and it's still not right for an apprentice to be having kits with anyone. |
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Post by Holly Snow on Sept 18, 2016 11:38:45 GMT -5
I was looking over this. the nuts thing is that Scorchpaw popped into existense as an apprentice in Eclipse. Snowbird was pregnant in Outcast and there are no other listed queens besides Tawneypelt in outcast or prior. If I didn't know better I'd think Scorchfur was Snowbird's son. Wow!1!!1 Magically aging kits!1!1! Who knew that kits being expected could suddenly grow six moons!1!!1 If Snowbird went into labor at the beginning of the book, her kits would be 3 moons old by the end. Eclipse takes place over a span of about 2 moons. We don't see Scorchfur till the battle. By this point hes almost six moons. Its totally possible that Scorchfur is her son. |
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Post by Lightflame on Sept 18, 2016 13:10:05 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it was confirmed that 18 moons(18 months or 1 1/2 years) passed between TAQ and BrS. Though I don't remember for sure. Yep, 18 moons between the BrS manga and TAQ. That was just a mistake on the part of whoever said it, I think. It's clearly supposed to be 8 moons. (As a side note, 6 moons from TLH to BrS, 1 moon passes in BrS, 6 moons to the manga, and 8 moons to TAQ, so there are 21 moons between TLH and TAQ.) |
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Post by Jaysnow on Sept 18, 2016 13:17:29 GMT -5
Yep, 18 moons between the BrS manga and TAQ. That was just a mistake on the part of whoever said it, I think. It's clearly supposed to be 8 moons. (As a side note, 6 moons from TLH to BrS, 1 moon passes in BrS, 6 moons to the manga, and 8 moons to TAQ, so there are 21 moons between TLH and TAQ.) Kate said it. Why, Kate... |
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Post by Faunastar on Sept 18, 2016 14:35:36 GMT -5
there's a team of four people working full time to write this book and keep track of this storyline , and yet.....
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Post by Firepup16 on Sept 20, 2016 23:01:45 GMT -5
I was the one who asked Kate this, and I never remember asking her directly if Scorchfur was the father of her Eclipse litter, although it's definitely possible. Is it just me though or is it weird that Berryheart, Rippletail, and Clovertail were born all the way in POT but not featured until AOVS? Keep in mind that Tigerheart, Dawnpelt, and Flametail were kits in this book. It just seems weird that they lived in the background for so many books, although I guess it's possible considering how a lot of cats disappear from the allegiance but don't die and then come back in later books. Also I didn't see the comments yet, but if anyone didn't know, the third kit from the litter of Yarrowleaf and Beenose was named Bluebellkit. c: Overall I'm glad that Kate answered this question since to me anyway some things make more sense. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2016 9:52:47 GMT -5
☂ Beenose?
Bruh
one of my OCs names, though he's a tom
Firepup16 - Thanks for naming the third kit. Bluebell- is a pretty prefix, but it's like Marigoldkit: if they had recieved a warrior suffix with two or more syllables, it would be a mouthful (eg: "Marigoldwillow"). I wonder if they would've had one-syllable suffixes, though. "Marigoldheart" isn't too hard to say; nor is "Bluebellfoot".
Just some rambling thoughts.
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Post by Dancing_Totodile on Sept 21, 2016 16:49:56 GMT -5
I was the one who asked Kate this, and I never remember asking her directly if Scorchfur was the father of her Eclipse litter, although it's definitely possible. Is it just me though or is it weird that Berryheart, Rippletail, and Clovertail were born all the way in POT but not featured until AOVS? Keep in mind that Tigerheart, Dawnpelt, and Flametail were kits in this book. It just seems weird that they lived in the background for so many books, although I guess it's possible considering how a lot of cats disappear from the allegiance but don't die and then come back in later books. Also I didn't see the comments yet, but if anyone didn't know, the third kit from the litter of Yarrowleaf and Beenose was named Bluebellkit. c: Overall I'm glad that Kate answered this question since to me anyway some things make more sense. All of theother clan have more cats in them then what is shown in the allegianges. |
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