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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 15:46:21 GMT -5
>> The issue of HTML. The reason BBcode is used by proboards by default is due to the XXS vulnerabilities HTML leaves open. The original WCF was a meaty service that costed quite a profit to run monthly. This is just a free forum service, which likely means there are more ways for a hacker to gain access into specific panels. Of course, Proboards itself is reliable and I doubt anybody is going to really want to hack this place but until we are more educated on this concept I think we should welcome the BBcode.
>> Photos you don't own. I think credit should be given to any original artists. Just giving them some credit in your signature should do the job. Hours of wok could have gone into making that image, and not giving them credit is likely the reason the WCF banned any images you don't own. You should also likely ask the original artist/photographer before you use their art for your own purposes. Artists are people and I'm sure many would be honoured to have their art as your icon/signature, some might not.
As for stock, those are things the content creator puts out for public use, especially since it won't be for commercial use. That should all be fine.
>> Legal issues with minors being moderators. Yes, age doesn't equal maturity but I do believe some factors should be considered. There isn't much about this out there, so I'll continue to dig for research. Many users here want to be moderators and many users here are under the ages of 18. The whole concept of the moderator is to be a guardian figure for the members of a web forum. If a user is still dependant on their parents/another guardian then I do not see how them looking over a userbase of 600+ people could work. There are reasons that go into why many forums limit moderators to mature 18+ year olds.
If minors are allowed, I think 16 should be the cut-off. You are legally allowed to work at nearly all jobs at that age it's likely you are independant from your parents. Yes, there are some extremely mature 12 year olds out there but there are lots of factors that go into things. In fact, many sites only allow 13-14+ year olds to use their service in the first place. Once again, legal issues.
Yes, people can lie about ages but I hope that liars aren't the people being selected for the job. Who knows how those kinds of people would work as mods.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 15:54:29 GMT -5
i agree 100% with this. i do think the mods should be 18+ because although, like you said, there are some extremely mature people under that age, for the sake of having the responsibility of moderating forums you should definitely be at least an adult (or perhaps have certain "sub-mods" at 16, idk).
i am a little nervous with the fact that generally we're not 100% certain what the rules are here (unless i missed somethin) but hopefully we all figure it out soon
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Post by Ƈσяαℓ Mєямαι∂ ღ on Jul 30, 2016 15:56:30 GMT -5
I definitely agree with age being a factor in being a moderator
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Post by ᴛᴜᴇsᴅᴀʏ on Jul 30, 2016 16:40:23 GMT -5
i definitely support the age bit. it may not be a paid position, but there's a lot of responsibility involved. additionally, like i said on another thread, the mods selected should also be chosen because they want to be a mod and they have enthusiasm for it, not just because of their age and apparent maturity. enthusiasm is important!
as for the art credits, i really do think that if you're using someone's art, not just a stock photo or screencap, that you should ask the artist for permission first. some people really want to control where their art goes, especially fanart, because it can have legal repercussions in some countries. and if you can't ask the artist/they don't reply, don't use their work. just artsy courtesy.
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Post by moonmasksunfrost on Jul 30, 2016 17:01:24 GMT -5
Thank you for this. I think that the age bit is definitely valid.
even though that bit means I can't be a moderator, MEHH
*sarcasm*
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Post by ＬＵＮＡ on Jul 30, 2016 17:27:08 GMT -5
I completely agree with the Moderator age limit, and not even for the maturity reasons. Of course maturity comes into it since it's extremely crucial for somebody such as a moderator to act with maturity, the age limit is important due to legal reasons. I doubt anybody on here would go so far as to do anything illegal enough to raise suspicion of the authorities but on the rare chance that something like that were to happen it would be better to have people in charge of here that would actually be taken seriously by the authorities, as opposed to a bunch of fourteen year old teenagers running the place. I am in a group on Facebook that recently had to implement age restrictions on people who could become Admins due to that exact reason.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 17:32:26 GMT -5
Wow, I'm surprised with the amount of agreement! I thought people would oppose my stance, haha. Yeah, plus forum mods have access to personal information like e-mails and stuff like that is something I wouldn't want in the hands of some 14 year olds. Moon: Don't worry, it excludes me as well haha. But I'd be a terrible mod choice anyways considering the fact I was literally banned on the original forums  |
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Post by ＬＵＮＡ on Jul 30, 2016 17:41:56 GMT -5
That's a very true point about the personal information. Due to being an admin of several groups on other websites and in groups, I have seen things go rather AWOL when it comes to have younger admins/moderators sometimes, especially when there are disagreements and the admin/moderator takes advantage of their powers and end up acting in an unjust manner. Of course older people can do that too but it appears to be less common. I've seen some really good methods of sorting out disagreements and such which I think could come in handy here. What the moderators do is get an unbiased 'jury' of members {which could be done via messaging.} when somebody breaks the rules or when there's an argument and the mods ask the jury what they think of the situation and the severity of what the punishment should be. It's a very fair method and has actually worked really well. I know that moderators often get called unfair so having some sort of 'jury' system worked out ensures that situations get dealt with fairly.
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Post by Ƈσяαℓ Mєямαι∂ ღ on Jul 30, 2016 17:43:57 GMT -5
That's a very true point about the personal information. Due to being an admin of several groups on other websites and in groups, I have seen things go rather AWOL when it comes to have younger admins/moderators sometimes, especially when there are disagreements and the admin/moderator takes advantage of their powers and end up acting in an unjust manner. Of course older people can do that too but it appears to be less common. I've seen some really good methods of sorting out disagreements and such which I think could come in handy here. What the moderators do is get an unbiased 'jury' of members {which could be done via messaging.} when somebody breaks the rules or when there's an argument and the mods ask the jury what they think of the situation and the severity of what the punishment should be. It's a very fair method and has actually worked really well. I know that moderators often get called unfair so having some sort of 'jury' system worked out ensures that situations get dealt with fairly.
How did you get your text background to look like that? Like, it's not just a plain color, it has a pattern.... Also love your siggie |
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Post by Novi on Jul 30, 2016 20:09:41 GMT -5
Well put Eight. Although honestly, a lot of my pictures I use come from Google images, so not so sure how to go about finding their creators. .-.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 20:10:47 GMT -5
Well put Eight. Although honestly, a lot of my pictures I use come from Google images, so not so sure how to go about finding their creators. .-. Reverse image search? |
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Post by Novi on Jul 30, 2016 20:14:25 GMT -5
Dunno what that is...
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Post by TheRealDarkstalker on Jul 30, 2016 20:35:39 GMT -5
That explains a bit about why they shut it down... According to their site, a website like that costs $3,000 to maintain!
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Post by ☾ Cʀᴇsᴄᴇɴᴛ ☽ on Jul 30, 2016 22:56:54 GMT -5
I completely agree. Mods need to be old enough to be responsible
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Post by ☾ Cʀᴇsᴄᴇɴᴛ ☽ on Jul 30, 2016 23:10:43 GMT -5
I completely agree. Mods need to be old enough to be responsible
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Post by Birdsong231 ♬♪ on Jul 30, 2016 23:30:32 GMT -5
I agree with all of this.
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Post by mysticmagic on Jul 30, 2016 23:37:20 GMT -5
i just said something similar before, it's very understandable and good that we're looking into the legal aspects of things, butttt as of now, in my opinion there are more higher priority things to solve on here, and i very much doubt there will ever (unless this gets very, very popular) be any legal issues with this. really, it's a forum made and ran by minors through a free forum service. feralfront started out similar, and (as far as i know) they changed and adapted as they had to when their forums grew, and they've turned out fine. i just don't want there to be too much stress and worry over the legal aspects of this, no point for unneeded worry
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Post by mysticmagic on Jul 30, 2016 23:39:17 GMT -5
That's a very true point about the personal information. Due to being an admin of several groups on other websites and in groups, I have seen things go rather AWOL when it comes to have younger admins/moderators sometimes, especially when there are disagreements and the admin/moderator takes advantage of their powers and end up acting in an unjust manner. Of course older people can do that too but it appears to be less common. I've seen some really good methods of sorting out disagreements and such which I think could come in handy here. What the moderators do is get an unbiased 'jury' of members {which could be done via messaging.} when somebody breaks the rules or when there's an argument and the mods ask the jury what they think of the situation and the severity of what the punishment should be. It's a very fair method and has actually worked really well. I know that moderators often get called unfair so having some sort of 'jury' system worked out ensures that situations get dealt with fairly.
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Post by leafwillow on Jul 31, 2016 0:25:07 GMT -5
I agree with this, however their is the point of very mature minors that could be adressed. I'm not 18+, so sadly I can't be the mod here, however I do think that you should nake it somewhat possible for younger people to become mods. For the fact that some of us have had loads of experience as moderators in other areas, are highly mature, and understand the rules 100%. Also, no, I'm not just saying this because I'd like to be a moderator, I'm judt saying it should be possible for you to have exceptions for this and to at least consider exceptions.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 12:20:58 GMT -5
I agree with this, however their is the point of very mature minors that could be adressed. I'm not 18+, so sadly I can't be the mod here, however I do think that you should nake it somewhat possible for younger people to become mods. For the fact that some of us have had loads of experience as moderators in other areas, are highly mature, and understand the rules 100%. Also, no, I'm not just saying this because I'd like to be a moderator, I'm judt saying it should be possible for you to have exceptions for this and to at least consider exceptions. Well, you need to officially be 17+ to be a mod now. There's so much more that goes into this than understanding the rules and being mature for your age. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 12:30:19 GMT -5
I definitely agree with this.
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Post by leafwillow on Jul 31, 2016 14:18:08 GMT -5
I agree with this, however their is the point of very mature minors that could be adressed. I'm not 18+, so sadly I can't be the mod here, however I do think that you should nake it somewhat possible for younger people to become mods. For the fact that some of us have had loads of experience as moderators in other areas, are highly mature, and understand the rules 100%. Also, no, I'm not just saying this because I'd like to be a moderator, I'm judt saying it should be possible for you to have exceptions for this and to at least consider exceptions. Well, you need to officially be 17+ to be a mod now. There's so much more that goes into this than understanding the rules and being mature for your age. Man, still a year off. And I understand that, but I was just pointing this out |
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