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and even all the smiles on kid's faces bring you pain, when you think of what they'll face
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Post by dal on Mar 31, 2024 13:24:04 GMT -5
what features would you give it?
i'm currently making a language. here are some of the features of mine: - the number system: there are words for 0-9, and words for 10, 100, 1000, etc.. instead of there being words like "twenty" or "thirty", you say the equivalent of "two-ten" and "three-ten". this is inspired by mandarin chinese. - the verb conjugation system: word order in my language is subject-verb-object, similar to english, spanish, and mandarin chinese. however, the verb conjugation system takes heavy influence from persian and japanese. my language has a light verb system, meaning there are a few one word verbs and a lot of verbs that are a noun + a simple verb, kinda like suru verbs in japanese. for example, the word for "to look" in my language literally translates to "to do eyes". verb conjugation changes the emphasis in the word, as my language is a stress language like spanish. all verbs end in -mu and no words end in -mu except for verbs. - the pronouns: i wanted to see if i could make the pronoun system completely disconnected from gender, and i did! the pronoun system in my language has one word for i/me, one word for you, one word for exclusive we/us, one word for inclusive we/us, and 6 different 3rd person pronouns. one singular and one plural for a person/group physically or metaphorically close to the speaker, one singular and one plural for a person/group physically or metaphorically close to the listener, and one singular and one plural for a person/group physically or metaphorically close to neither. there's also an interrogative "who?" that has a singular and plural form. also, third person pronouns in my language directly translate to "this person/people" "that person/people" and "that (other) person/people"
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and even all the smiles on kid's faces bring you pain, when you think of what they'll face
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Post by dal on Mar 31, 2024 13:26:06 GMT -5
also i'm making a custom dictionary for my language lol
i struggled to come up with a name for my language, but i eventually came up with nomjiaandyaa (anglicized as nomjiandya). nom: name, jiaamu: take, and yaa: language. nom jiaamu is a verb in my language that means to choose a name or go by a name, and so nomjiaandyaa means "the language of chosen names"
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and even all the smiles on kid's faces bring you pain, when you think of what they'll face
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Post by dal on Mar 31, 2024 13:32:14 GMT -5
and if ur wondering "hey dal how do u conjugate verbs in ur language u never specified that" here u go jiaamu: take gaimu: give yomu: have seimu: be dwaimu: do
INDICATIVE (happens as stated) present affirmative: -mu present negative: -munai simple past affirmative: -muká simple past negative: -munaika future affirmative: -muláa future negative: -munailaa
PERFECT TENSES (already happened as stated) present perfect affirmative: yan (sup) verb-mu present perfect negative: yan (sup) verb-munai past perfect affirmative: yan (sup) verb-muka past perfect negative: yan (sup) verb-munaika future perfect affirmative: yan (sup) verb-muláa future perfect negative: yan (sup) verb-munailaa
CONTINUOUS/PROGRESSIVE & EMPHATIC TENSES present progressive affirmative: (sup) verb-mune seimu present progressive negative: (sup) verb-mune seimunai past progressive affirmative: (sup) verb-mune seimuka past progressive negative: (sup) verb-mune seimunaika future progressive affirmative: (sup) verb-mune seimuláa future progressive negative: (sup) verb-mune seimunailaa present emphatic affirmative: (sup) verb-ndá present emphatic negative: (sup) verb-nda nai past emphatic affirmative: (sup) verb-ndaká past emphatic negative: (sup) verb-ndaka nai
COMPOUND CONTINUOUS/PROGRESSIVE TENSES present perf-pro affirmative: yan (sup) verb-mune seimu present perf-pro negative: yan (sup) verb-mune seimunai past perf-pro affirmative: yan (sup) verb-mune seimuka past perf-pro negative: yan (sup) verb-mune seimunaika future perf-pro affirmative: yan (sup) verb-mune seimuláa future perf-pro negative: yan (sup) verb-mune seimunailaa
CONDITIONAL present affirmative: (sup) verb-nén present negative: (sup) verb-nénnai past: (sup) verb-nenka present conditional: (sup) verb-mune seinén perf-pro: (sup) verb-mune seinénka
emphatic form is same as imperative form
seimu is an irregular verb: seimunai can be shortened to seinai.
emphasis order goes as following: if there are no additional attributes to the verb or the verb is in connective form (-mune), the emphasis goes on the content of the verb (e.g. JIAAmu or JIAAmune). if the mood is just conditional, emphasis goes on "nén". (e.g. jiaaNEN) if the tense is past/future or past/future and conditional, emphasis goes on the indicator that the verb takes place in the past or future (e.g. jiaamuKA, jiaamuLAA, jiaanenKA) if the mood is negative, emphasis goes on nai (jiaamuNAI, jiaamuNAIka, jiaamuNAIlaa, jiaanenNAI, jiaanenNAIka, etc) if the verb is in connective form, emphasis goes on the content on the first verb and the rules apply to shaamu (e.g. JIAAmune shaamuLAA) if the aspect is perfect, emphasis will also be placed on yan
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and even all the smiles on kid's faces bring you pain, when you think of what they'll face
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Post by dal on Mar 31, 2024 16:55:33 GMT -5
another bit i created just minutes ago. the words for today, tonight, yesterday, and tomorrow, etc. literally translate to "this day, this night, that day in the past, that day in the future, etc." here's further explanation. chi: this, chaa: that, and cho: that other. also, sop: day, nyaal: night. 2 new lexemes created a combination of new word phrases. those 2 lexemes being gonaa: in the past, and dapaa: in the future.
chisop: today chinyaal: tonight chaasop gonaa: yesterday chaasop dapaa: tomorrow chaanyaal gonaa: last night chaanyaal dapaa: tomorrow night chosop gonaa: the day before yesterday chosop dapaa: the day after tomorrow chonyaal gonaa: the night before last night chonyaal dapaa: the night after next night
to make phrases like "on that day" or "the other day", you change chi/chaa/cho from prefix form to pronoun form (chino/chaano/chono). so on that day = "a chaano/chono sop", the other day = "chono sop"
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Mar 31, 2024 17:04:28 GMT -5
my conlag as a declension for dual number, so that’s interesting i guess.
how are infinitives and gerunds formed?
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and even all the smiles on kid's faces bring you pain, when you think of what they'll face
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Post by dal on Mar 31, 2024 19:00:06 GMT -5
my conlag as a declension for dual number, so that’s interesting i guess. how are infinitives and gerunds formed? WOAAHH I DIDN'T KNOW U DO CONLANGS
hmm i haven't thought about gerunds yet. gerunds will be formed by removing -mu and in its place adding a nominalizing suffix, -dzi.
i can't decide if i want to have infinitives... on the one hand if i don't have infinitives with my light verb system, sentences like "you need to see this" could end up a bit long. but on the other hand i could use the simple present form as the infinitive and add a connective -ne after -mu, hmmm...
lemme try a sentence based on what feels natural to me. let's say loimu means need. "loimune dul dwaimu chidzi."
so i have now decided that infinitives do not exist in my conlang, and auxiliary verbs will use the connective -mune form. if i come across any issues with this system i'll think about retconning that but for now that's what makes most sense to me.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Mar 31, 2024 21:04:04 GMT -5
i love how your posts here are just stream of consciousness as you actively work it out lol.
and yes, i do conlag! it is for a writing project of mine. i technically have three, but they are are dialects of each other so it's more like one with a few distinguishing variations. it is heavily inspired by Old Church Slavonic, but i do pull some other language structuring ideas (esp grammatically) from Latin since that is what I am classically educated in.
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and even all the smiles on kid's faces bring you pain, when you think of what they'll face
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Post by dal on Mar 31, 2024 21:27:59 GMT -5
i love how your posts here are just stream of consciousness as you actively work it out lol. and yes, i do conlag! it is for a writing project of mine. i technically have three, but they are are dialects of each other so it's more like one with a few distinguishing variations. it is heavily inspired by Old Church Slavonic, but i do pull some other language structuring ideas (esp grammatically) from Latin since that is what I am classically educated in. i like writing in a stream of consciousness tbh, planning what i say beforehand in forums or texts seems too formal for me and idk why. it's kinda like, i see typing messages as a way of speaking, so preparing a message beforehand instead of figuring it out as i go feels like i'm scripting my messages or preparing a speech. if i were making a tumblr post or something i'd probably script out my message beforehand, but otherwise nah. i'm not sure if anyone else views texting/typing messages that way but i do.
oh that's neat! i didn't even know old church slavonic was a thing, but that makes sense considering the byzantine empire. do you pull the etymology of words from latin or old church slavonic, or do you have your own etymologies for words?
i think my conlang takes the most influence from spanish, japanese, english, and mandarin chinese, with some concepts pulled from persian and some words pulled from french. overall my goal with my conlang is to make a language that reflects the way that i think, so when i'm coming up with new grammatical concepts i usually base it off of what feels most natural to me. when i first started making this conlang a couple days ago i thought i would just end up with english using different words because of english being my first language, but as i'm progressing i'm finding that what feels most natural to me differs quite a bit from english. so not only am i learning about linguistics, i'm also learning about myself. maybe the real conlang was the self discovery we made along the way
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