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Post by Leapkit on Mar 4, 2024 10:27:57 GMT -5
A character trope I love is Grumpy Old Man Who Lost His Wife Whom He Loved Dearly.
I also think they tend to be kinda hot ngl. Castlevania Dracula does something to me and I was also rabid for Malistaire in Wizard 101 as a kid for the exact same reason.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Mar 4, 2024 12:03:07 GMT -5
A character trope I love is Grumpy Old Man Who Lost His Wife Whom He Loved Dearly. I also think they tend to be kinda hot ngl. Castlevania Dracula does something to me and I was also rabid for Malistaire in Wizard 101 as a kid for the exact same reason. leap thinks carl from Up is hot confirmed
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Post by Leapkit on Mar 4, 2024 17:59:30 GMT -5
A character trope I love is Grumpy Old Man Who Lost His Wife Whom He Loved Dearly. I also think they tend to be kinda hot ngl. Castlevania Dracula does something to me and I was also rabid for Malistaire in Wizard 101 as a kid for the exact same reason. leap thinks carl from Up is hot confirmed Yes.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Mar 5, 2024 9:52:42 GMT -5
The protagonist/main character group's mother figure. Some shows I watch is just for that person.
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Post by Sunleap24973 on Mar 5, 2024 13:30:25 GMT -5
I love when a group of people come together and become like family. I know it's pretty common but I love relationships like that. It always gives me warm feelings. Probably why I like the characters of ATLA and the rebooted Ducktales so much.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Mar 5, 2024 20:27:26 GMT -5
I was just reminded of one of my least favorite tropes: breaking off a betrothal/marriage that was arranged for political or economic reasons in the name of "following your heart" to marry for love.
It's just so overdone and presented in an extremely two-dimensional way.
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Post by Leapkit on Mar 5, 2024 22:41:12 GMT -5
Love triangles, lying, hiding a secret, or just anything like that done to propel a story forward oh my god just talk about your feelings you stupid idiot, it is not that hard, you've done this to yourself. It's like in everything these days and it just makes me want to throw my tv/book/whatever across the room.
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Post by Northstar3213 on Mar 8, 2024 20:25:16 GMT -5
Hot take but I get irked by the “I’m a strong independent woman that don’t need no man” trope. It’s often very poorly executed resulting in either forced relationships that have no development, or you get an absolute cringe character that just has no personality or substance…like unbuttered wheat toast. Like you can have a strong female character that doesn’t have to be in a relationship, but also doesn’t have to scream how independent she is every five seconds.
Adjacent to this trope, the Hallmark movie formula.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Mar 9, 2024 7:15:52 GMT -5
Favorites: Enemies to Lovers, Supportive Siblings, Redemptions (if done well), Found Family, Mother Hen of the group, Goof of the group, Morally Grey Characters, Hero to Villain and vice versa, Charismatic Villains, Pathetic Henchmen (thank you Darkstripe)
Least Favorites: Love Triangles, Love at First Sight (bs), Miscommunication/Misunderstandings, Teacher-Student Romance (power imbalance no-go), Sibling Rivalries (unless it's tragic like with Zuko and Azula)
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Post by *Ɗαɾƙρσσℓ* on Mar 11, 2024 17:23:07 GMT -5
A character trope I love is Grumpy Old Man Who Lost His Wife Whom He Loved Dearly. I also think they tend to be kinda hot ngl. Castlevania Dracula does something to me and I was also rabid for Malistaire in Wizard 101 as a kid for the exact same reason. i love this archetype but speaking of castlevania i have a somewhat related archetype i also love, which is the child of a monstrous/villainous character who has to live with their parents' shadows so like Alucard ofc, Luke Skywalker, Brambleclaw, Asami, or Prince Lir. Those are mostly characters who choose to do better but I do also love it when they decide to follow in their parents' footsteps or flat-out become worse like Azula lol
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Mar 12, 2024 2:38:29 GMT -5
Idk if it's a trope but when nice characters have downwards spirals and either go crazy or get insanely depressed. either way it'd be a completely different person to them in the beginning
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Post by Leapkit on Mar 12, 2024 3:32:06 GMT -5
A character trope I love is Grumpy Old Man Who Lost His Wife Whom He Loved Dearly. I also think they tend to be kinda hot ngl. Castlevania Dracula does something to me and I was also rabid for Malistaire in Wizard 101 as a kid for the exact same reason. i love this archetype but speaking of castlevania i have a somewhat related archetype i also love, which is the child of a monstrous/villainous character who has to live with their parents' shadows so like Alucard ofc, Luke Skywalker, Brambleclaw, Asami, or Prince Lir. Those are mostly characters who choose to do better but I do also love it when they decide to follow in their parents' footsteps or flat-out become worse like Azula lol
I do not like this trope 99% of the time. Its rarely ever done well. Especially in Brambleclaws case lmao. That one backslid hard.
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Post by *Ɗαɾƙρσσℓ* on Mar 12, 2024 9:10:39 GMT -5
That's fair. I didn't read past like midway through OotS so my only frame of reference for Brambleclaw's character is the new prophecy, which I do still think handled him pretty well.
edit: also in thinking abt this I think part of what I enjoy abt the trope is that like 'sibling narrative' i'm less looking for a particular version of the trope that i consider the best execution, and more just interested in the variety of ways the trope can play out. as long as you're trying something new with it, i'm probably intrigued.
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Post by Moonblazer on Mar 12, 2024 18:37:22 GMT -5
I haaaaate Love Triangles that leave one side alone and heartbroken, like sorry, every single Love Triangle becomes a polyamorous ship to me, sorry.
I looooove friends to lovers, forced to share a bed, and going feral strong to protect your friends/lovers
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Post by Tealraven on Mar 14, 2024 15:02:51 GMT -5
another favorite:
female characters who are unapologetically smug and overconfident, with hidden depths. (some examples that come to mind are Toph, Korra, Furina, Glimmer, and Aelin/Celaena.) i know a lot of people dislike "bitchy" female characters but i find this trope very entertaining. yes ma'am you are better than me and i love you for it.
bonus points if a) the bravado is a façade intended to hide deeper issues such as low self-esteem or trauma and we eventually get to see them drop the mask and learn to be vulnerable or b) they really are just full of it and have to eat a slice of humble pie and learn to mature as part of their character arc.
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Post by Leapkit on Mar 14, 2024 15:53:17 GMT -5
another favorite: female characters who are unapologetically smug and overconfident, with hidden depths. (some examples that come to mind are Toph, Korra, Furina, Glimmer, and Aelin/Celaena.) i know a lot of people dislike "bitchy" female characters but i find this trope very entertaining. yes ma'am you are better than me and i love you for it. bonus points if a) the bravado is a façade intended to hide deeper issues such as low self-esteem or trauma and we eventually get to see them drop the mask and learn to be vulnerable or b) they really are just full of it and have to eat a slice of humble pie and learn to mature as part of their character arc. I feel like the dislike of characters like this is mostly sexism because people seemingly love male characters that follow this exact trope and they only ever seem to get labelled as "bitchy" if they're women.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Mar 14, 2024 21:42:37 GMT -5
another favorite: female characters who are unapologetically smug and overconfident, with hidden depths. (some examples that come to mind are Toph, Korra, Furina, Glimmer, and Aelin/Celaena.) i know a lot of people dislike "bitchy" female characters but i find this trope very entertaining. yes ma'am you are better than me and i love you for it. bonus points if a) the bravado is a façade intended to hide deeper issues such as low self-esteem or trauma and we eventually get to see them drop the mask and learn to be vulnerable or b) they really are just full of it and have to eat a slice of humble pie and learn to mature as part of their character arc. i think this is one that for me depends a lot on how their overconfidence is played out. a bit of bravado and cockiness is fun but i dont like characters that are too egotistical or self-superior. i loved toph but i hated korra and aelin, personally. not sure if i know why off the top of my head - maybe because the latter two felt a little too good at everything? and like the flaws were a bit too predictable/manufactured? idk how to describe it. whereas Toph was really good at one (1) thing but otherwise pretty rough around the edges and had several glaring flaws, i eat that up.
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Post by *Ɗαɾƙρσσℓ* on Mar 16, 2024 12:57:26 GMT -5
emerging trope (have seen it in like 2 books so far) i hate is when a sex-negative/repulsed asexual character is paired with an allosexual character, and the allosexual character agrees to be in a wholly celibate relationship because they're ~that in love~ and its treated like a good romantic statement?????
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Mar 16, 2024 15:07:36 GMT -5
emerging trope (have seen it in like 2 books so far) i hate is when a sex-negative/repulsed asexual character is paired with an allosexual character, and the allosexual character agrees to be in a wholly celibate relationship because they're ~that in love~ and its treated like a good romantic statement????? i knew a couple IRL with this relationship. it did not end well.
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Post by dal on Mar 18, 2024 21:55:59 GMT -5
emerging trope (have seen it in like 2 books so far) i hate is when a sex-negative/repulsed asexual character is paired with an allosexual character, and the allosexual character agrees to be in a wholly celibate relationship because they're ~that in love~ and its treated like a good romantic statement????? in situations like this i feel like platonic pairings solo. like your character x is not compatible with character y romantically, but they can still love each other. but as friends!!! platonic love can be just as strong and important as romantic love
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Post by brooksie on Mar 18, 2024 22:31:14 GMT -5
despite loving hallmark movies i really don't enjoy cheating tropes. i don't find it romantic it just kind of icks me out. i get hometown hero is better than corporate man who is literally doing his job but damn it aint cute its more frustrating than miscommunication to me. this is why i didn't rly 'get' the notebook too ig but some ppl are just wired differently
fav tropes are best friends to lovers tho love that
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Post by Leapkit on Mar 19, 2024 8:31:33 GMT -5
Training montages over goofy ass music instead of character development or as a cheap replacement for showing important growth. 👎
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Post by *Ɗαɾƙρσσℓ* on Mar 19, 2024 11:51:01 GMT -5
emerging trope (have seen it in like 2 books so far) i hate is when a sex-negative/repulsed asexual character is paired with an allosexual character, and the allosexual character agrees to be in a wholly celibate relationship because they're ~that in love~ and its treated like a good romantic statement????? in situations like this i feel like platonic pairings solo. like your character x is not compatible with character y romantically, but they can still love each other. but as friends!!! platonic love can be just as strong and important as romantic love i'm not against the concept of them having a romantic arc of some sort entirely but presumably it would make sense to pair them with another sex-negative asexual because that way no one is compromising a giant part of their relational identity.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Mar 19, 2024 12:52:33 GMT -5
Training montages over goofy ass music instead of character development or as a cheap replacement for showing important growth. 👎 Jeong Jeong episode superiority. I'm so glad they didn't make that a training montage tbh.
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Post by 𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 on Mar 19, 2024 14:56:19 GMT -5
in situations like this i feel like platonic pairings solo. like your character x is not compatible with character y romantically, but they can still love each other. but as friends!!! platonic love can be just as strong and important as romantic love i'm not against the concept of them having a romantic arc of some sort entirely but presumably it would make sense to pair them with another sex-negative asexual because that way no one is compromising a giant part of their relational identity. hi! Romantic (gay) ace here! I disagree tbh. If an allo person is choosing to date a sex-repulsed asexual, this means they have had to talk about boundaries and comfort levels. If they’re not compatible, they can call it off. However, their difference in sexual orientation do not inherently mean they’re incompatible. No one is forcing an allo person to date an asexual. And romantic attraction is a different and equally important attraction. If it works for the couple, fictional or not, then it works. I’m an author and I will be including various different asexual representation in all of my stories. This includes QPR aro/aces, two romantic aces in a relationship, and allo/ace relationships, because there’s so many different ways to be ace and just because its different doesn’t mean it’s wrong! Hope this insight from a romantic asexual helped!
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Post by Leapkit on Mar 19, 2024 15:03:58 GMT -5
i'm not against the concept of them having a romantic arc of some sort entirely but presumably it would make sense to pair them with another sex-negative asexual because that way no one is compromising a giant part of their relational identity. hi! Romantic (gay) ace here! I disagree tbh. If an allo person is choosing to date a sex-repulsed asexual, this means they have had to talk about boundaries and comfort levels. If they’re not compatible, they can call it off. However, their difference in sexual orientation do not inherently mean they’re incompatible. No one is forcing an allo person to date an asexual. And romantic attraction is a different and equally important attraction. If it works for the couple, fictional or not, then it works. I’m an author and I will be including various different asexual representation in all of my stories. This includes QPR aro/aces, two romantic aces in a relationship, and allo/ace relationships, because there’s so many different ways to be ace and just because its different doesn’t mean it’s wrong! Hope this insight from a romantic asexual helped! I feel like opinion matters from an allo just a little more than an ace here, because in these cases the ace person is not the one whose identity is being compromised on.
Most people would protest if the pairing did the inverse and made the ace person compromise their sense of self and have a sexual encounter because they "loved them so much" they were willing to do something that went against their nature, so why should the inverse be treated any different?
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Post by 𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 on Mar 19, 2024 15:49:03 GMT -5
hi! Romantic (gay) ace here! I disagree tbh. If an allo person is choosing to date a sex-repulsed asexual, this means they have had to talk about boundaries and comfort levels. If they’re not compatible, they can call it off. However, their difference in sexual orientation do not inherently mean they’re incompatible. No one is forcing an allo person to date an asexual. And romantic attraction is a different and equally important attraction. If it works for the couple, fictional or not, then it works. I’m an author and I will be including various different asexual representation in all of my stories. This includes QPR aro/aces, two romantic aces in a relationship, and allo/ace relationships, because there’s so many different ways to be ace and just because its different doesn’t mean it’s wrong! Hope this insight from a romantic asexual helped! I feel like opinion matters from an allo just a little more than an ace here, because in these cases the ace person is not the one whose identity is being compromised on. Most people would protest if the pairing did the inverse and made the ace person compromise their sense of self and have a sexual encounter because they "loved them so much" they were willing to do something that went against their nature, so why should the inverse be treated any different? Again, nobody is forcing allos to date aces, literally no one. But if an allo chooses to, then why is that wrong? People blatantly erase ace identities all the time because “aces can still have sex” and it’s so common that canon ace characters never get to actually be sex repulsed.
If you don’t want to date a sex repulsed asexual, nobody is making you. But if an allo person chooses to, then that’s their choice. Just like if a sex repulsed ace did choose to sacrifice that, it is also their choice.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Mar 19, 2024 15:55:09 GMT -5
I'd have to agree that an allosexual dating a sexual-repulsed asexual is.... just not healthy long-term. It requires the former to repress their sexual nature in order to be in the relationship with the latter. Sure, nobody forces them to do so, but just because it is consensual doesn't mean it is a good idea; people enter and stay in fundamentally incompatible relationships all the time because they are blinded by attraction (whether romantic, sexual, or both). They are ultimately repressing a natural, healthy part of how they seek to bond with their partner. That is (imo) unhealthy long-term no matter how much they love the other person. It's not the ace's fault, it's just how it is.
Every allo I have known who has entered a relationship with a sex-repulsed ace person (which admittedly is not many) have been initially comfortable with the sacrifice, but over time grew distressed and broke things off. I guess theoretically you could have an allo who genuinely does not care at all if the relationship is sexual, but at that point I would argue they're actually probably on the ace spectrum themselves without realizing it.
The only exception to this I can think of is someone whose romantic/sexual attractions don't align, e.g. someone who is biromantic but heterosexual. If the ace was a gender the allo person experienced romantic attraction toward but not one of the ones they experienced sexual attraction towards. (Although I am still iffy on if that dynamic would be healthy either).
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Post by 𝕊’𝕞𝕠𝕣𝕖 on Mar 19, 2024 16:11:19 GMT -5
I’m going to stop responding because I can see we are never going to agree here. Tbh this all feels rather aphobic to me and I’m tired of fighting aphobia at every corner. The good news is that you never have to date an ace, write or read this dynamic. But that doesn’t meant it’s unhealthy by default, and I do suggest researching more about allo/ace relationships because plenty of people have made it work.
I’m done now, I hope y’all have a great day and please do not tag or quote me to continue this conversation.
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Post by *Ɗαɾƙρσσℓ* on Mar 19, 2024 16:26:40 GMT -5
leap and ambrosef p much hit the nail on the head imo. i also feel like i need to say that i am in fact asexual?? that was kinda why this trope jumped out to me to begin with. (edited bc hadnt seen smores final post when i posted, cut out the additional analysis to neutralize. apologies for how this derailed.)
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