|
Post by Hollyfall on Oct 26, 2023 17:27:01 GMT -5
As with the Thunder spoilers, do you think the two of them are actually lying that Squirrelflight got her nine lives and name, and that Bramblestar was allowed to step down? I personally think it's a Nightstar situation where Squirrelflight just gave herself the name and is lying about the lives, and they're keeping it secret for the sake of the Clan. As well as for Bramblestar's own health.
|
|
|
Post by Jaysnow on Oct 26, 2023 17:28:56 GMT -5
Only reason I feel like they are most likely lying about it is because of Ivypool's upcoming Super Edition.
But I also wouldn't be surprised if they're telling the truth and Squirrelstar's leadership is just short-lived.
|
|
Bisexual
#FF00EC
Name Colour
BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ
Villain Enjoyer
Finally reading Wind!
|
Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Oct 26, 2023 17:34:07 GMT -5
Due to the storm interrupting their first attempt and Nightheart running off with Frostpaw during the second one that was seemingly successful but thus neither him nor us readers got to see Brambleclaw and Squirrelstar (still need to get used to typing that instead of the other way around regarding their Clan status) right after they woke up from communicating with StarClan, which probably would've revealed how it went based on their facial expressions/mannerisms, I think something is definitely up.
Although I'm not so sure that it's an exact Nightstar situation but we'll see.
Either way, I still hope Squirrelstar will step down and let Ivypool take over by the end of ASC.
But I just had a thought, what if there is a war between the Clans (because even though Squilf said she didn't want one it can still happen and is just likely) and they kill her off which then would reveal that she didn't have nine lives that way?!
Not that I'm hoping it would actually happen (same with the for now debunked dog theory) because I want Squirrelstar to also retire peacefully like Brambleclaw. But I could see the authors trying to go for a dramatic reveal like that if BrambleSquirrel lying about the ceremony was truly the case.
Then again, Squirrelstar knew that Nightheart was safe and StarClan had called him somewhere and I don't think she could lie about that because she'd just not know about it without StarClan telling her.
|
|
|
Post by 𓆩♡𓆪Moonshine𓆩♡𓆪 on Oct 26, 2023 18:14:09 GMT -5
I certainly hope they are. What was the point in the first attempt and having the moon be clouded if they were just going to make her leader all of three chapters later? Filler? They needed to reach their quota for chapters? Ran out of ideas?
Nah, everything about this is sus.
Although it wouldn't make sense to strip Bramblestar of his remaining lives and not give Squirrelflight any. As much as I want him to rest, I'm hoping he still has all his remaining lives. He can rest as soon as Squirrel is no where near the leadership position 😭
|
|
|
Post by 「Wιитεяичgнт」 on Oct 26, 2023 18:41:23 GMT -5
I absolutely 100% believe they are lying. The storm stopping them the first time and Nightheart conveniently having to dip before the end of the ceremony so we can't see the real outcome is too much to be coincidence.
|
|
|
Post by Tsukii on Oct 26, 2023 18:45:28 GMT -5
I have no idea why they wouldn’t show the ceremony or mention details about it. The only explanation would be that it never happened. The Erin’s would never miss a chance to mention Firestar.
|
|
|
Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Oct 26, 2023 19:12:11 GMT -5
I think they're lying to be honest. It's just so odd they don't go into the ceremony much and also made so many foreshadowings leading up to it. On top of that, I guess it's because they already have too many Clan troubles going on right now. Considering ShadowClan is occupying a leaderless RiverClan, and also Bramblestar's declining health, and Squirrelflight is just as old as him, it makes sense they'd hide it if that's the case. Plus Ivypool's upcoming SE is closely worked in with the same timeline of events, and further after. This can also be how they prevent "spoilers" of IvH too.
|
|
|
|
Post by کیوان on Oct 26, 2023 22:03:31 GMT -5
As someone who’s read the book, definitely not Really? It seemed odd for the whole thing with the clouds to happen. Was that nothing more than just an excuse to visit SkyClan and get Tree involved?
|
|
Heterosexual
Spinestar
Got The Ashfur Tattoo!
|
Post by Spinestar on Oct 26, 2023 22:07:30 GMT -5
As someone who’s read the book, definitely not Really? It seemed odd for the whole thing with the clouds to happen. Was that nothing more than just an excuse to visit SkyClan and get Tree involved? Squirrelstar does mention StarClan telling her about Nightheart’s fate. While I agree Squifs is a liar, that’s a bit too extreme to lie about and I think she’s being honest
|
|
|
Post by کیوان on Oct 26, 2023 22:09:05 GMT -5
Really? It seemed odd for the whole thing with the clouds to happen. Was that nothing more than just an excuse to visit SkyClan and get Tree involved? Squirrelstar does mention StarClan telling her about Nightheart’s fate. While I agree Squifs is a liar, that’s a bit too extreme to lie about and I think she’s being honest Is it possible that she did not obtain nine lives, but she received a message about Nightheart regardless?
|
|
|
Post by yuki on Oct 27, 2023 0:46:30 GMT -5
i have no faith that squirrelstar will remain leader by the end of this arc.
|
|
#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
|
Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Oct 27, 2023 4:02:26 GMT -5
Everything about the announcement just felt very weird, so I won't be surprised if they did indeed pull a Nightpelt, likely out of desperation, both for Brambleclaw's own health and because of the Tigerstar situation.
That said, consistently inconsistent series aside, it's still weird StarClan would reject them, seeing as how Sunstar was still made leader when Pinestar stepped down, albeit with eight lives instead of nine. And if it was just a case of Ivypool being Bramblestar's true successor, then why keep it a secret? Everyone in ThunderClan clearly trusts her, unless letting her be deputy for a little bit is meant of be some kind of test (deputies are technically apprentices to leaders, after all). Logic has also never really been this series' strong suit and we know how vague StarClan can be at even the most inconvenient times, so yeah, I really think it could go either way, but no matter what happens, I really don't see Squirrelstar lasting that long anyway.
|
|
|
Post by moongloweevee on Oct 27, 2023 5:48:05 GMT -5
If they're not lying about Squilf getting about her lives, I really hope to see her become a tyrannical leader. I wouldn't mind some bad leadership in Thunderclan for once since we never really had any before besides maybe arguably Bluestar at best (I haven't read the field guides so I dunno if they show any bad leaders there).
|
|
|
Post by Hollyfall on Oct 27, 2023 14:37:33 GMT -5
If they're not lying about Squilf getting about her lives, I really hope to see her become a tyrannical leader. I wouldn't mind some bad leadership in Thunderclan for once since we never really had any before besides maybe arguably Bluestar at best (I haven't read the field guides so I dunno if they show any bad leaders there). Ashfur was a tyrant while possessing Bramblestar back in TBC and ThunderClan is still recovering from it. He's one of the worst leaders in the series, honestly.
|
|
Bisexual
#64C7FF
Name Colour
finland
Porgs are love
|
Post by finland on Oct 27, 2023 14:50:24 GMT -5
If they're not lying about Squilf getting about her lives, I really hope to see her become a tyrannical leader. I wouldn't mind some bad leadership in Thunderclan for once since we never really had any before besides maybe arguably Bluestar at best (I haven't read the field guides so I dunno if they show any bad leaders there). Same. I REALLY hope they aren't lying for that reason
|
|
|
Post by moongloweevee on Oct 27, 2023 14:53:05 GMT -5
If they're not lying about Squilf getting about her lives, I really hope to see her become a tyrannical leader. I wouldn't mind some bad leadership in Thunderclan for once since we never really had any before besides maybe arguably Bluestar at best (I haven't read the field guides so I dunno if they show any bad leaders there). Ashfur was a tyrant while possessing Bramblestar back in TBC and ThunderClan is still recovering from it. He's one of the worst leaders in the series, honestly. That is true. I was more than likely half asleep when I wrote my initial statement. I'm just not thrilled over Squirrelflight
|
|
|
Post by 𓆩♡𓆪Moonshine𓆩♡𓆪 on Oct 27, 2023 14:58:44 GMT -5
Ashfur was a tyrant while possessing Bramblestar back in TBC and ThunderClan is still recovering from it. He's one of the worst leaders in the series, honestly. That is true. I was more than likely half asleep when I wrote my initial statement. I'm just not thrilled over Squirrelflight She's not the type to suddenly turn tyrannical, but that doesn't mean she can't be a bad leader. She's already shown to have made poor decisions back in TBC
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2023 15:03:28 GMT -5
That is true. I was more than likely half asleep when I wrote my initial statement. I'm just not thrilled over Squirrelflight She's not the type to suddenly turn tyrannical, but that doesn't mean she can't be a bad leader. She's already shown to have made poor decisions back in TBC i mean, i suppose we have seen her make a lot of mistakes. instead of evil/tyrannical maybe just constantly pushing her clan into everyone else’s business and pointless wars? then she gets voted out or something’s revealed that makes everyone see that she wasn’t the true leader, yk? js theories
|
|
|