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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2023 8:32:06 GMT -5
Exactly what it says! Basically, Warrior Cats, but how it would change if, say, Firestar was a she-cat? [r]
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Post by vectoring34 on Apr 23, 2023 11:25:42 GMT -5
The biggest changes are the kit plots. Off the top of my head, ones that can't work in the first series timeline alone are Bluestar giving away kits, Tigerstar being unable to dump Hawkfrost and Mothwing on Sasha, Brokenstar would have been raised primarily by Raggedstar as a mother, and Graystripe either dying in childbirth or else Silverstream ends up surviving.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Apr 23, 2023 11:47:49 GMT -5
Depends on who is changing genders. Is it everyone or just one character/a few specific ones?
I did enjoy reading some of the fanfics in the past in which Firestar is the only cat to get genderbend because seeing the choice of mates made by the authors and how it would affect their story was often quite fun to see.
I've seen she-cat Firestar (but also non-genderbend Firestar) get paired off with a number of toms such as Graystripe, Longtail, Dustpelt, Tigerstar (usually doesn't end well for obvious reasons), Onestar (tends to not end well either) and Ravenpaw (not a fan if it's with Firestar as a she-cat because I just see Ravenpaw as him being gay).
During the first arc and most others, nothing much would probably change for Firestar apart from whoever her (calling him by those pronouns here since this is genderbending) mate will be. Of course, there's also stories were she still ends up with Sandstorm (either with her still as a she-cat or sometimes as a tom) but I prefer ones where Firestar gets a different mate anyways (even outside of this scenario but that's a seperate topic).
Sorry about basically picking the easiest option with my favorite character lol. There's a PMV about Warriors genderbending which depicts differences between how a character (Squirrelflight in this case) might have been treated in comparison if she'd been a tom instead which I still think to be an interesting concept:
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Apr 23, 2023 16:34:49 GMT -5
If Firestar was a she-cat, Leafstar's Billystorm romance plotline would be given to the new Firestar. I can see either Graystripe or Dustpelt becoming her mate.
If we go with Dustpelt, he would take on Sandstorm's role. Dustpelt would overhear about Redtail's possible murder, at first denying it, then going against Tigerstar to the degree that Graystripe and Firestar do and help. They would get together sooner, but delay having a family due to Tigerstar and Scourge. The argument they have in place of the Spottedleaf one would be about how distant they seem via positions and Dustpelt's unwillingness to request what he wants such as a family and alone time. Alternate pairings: Fern x Soot Storm x Squirrel (He joins Thunder) Running x Sand (I always thought Mouse, Long, and Running were fresh out of training. Running dies his normal death.) Long x Sand Red x Brindle
If Graystripe, he would get with Silverstream first. Fireheart would be jealous but accepting, instead trying to get over it. Graystripe's RiverClan arc would remain but the romance would bud when he gets back. They'd become mates before Firestar leaves for SkyClan, with Sandstorm coming with her for company. Squirrelflight would be a silver tabby while Leafpool is a tortie or keeps her original design. Graystripe still gets taken but returns later. Millie is instead found on ThunderClan territory and taken in. Alternate pairings: Millie x Thorn Sand x Dust Fern x Soot Squirrel x Shrew Daisy x Rain
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Post by ! (Ġray) ! on Apr 24, 2023 3:03:01 GMT -5
Okay, but what about genderbent Greystripe and Silverstream?
Everyone assumes Fireheart's the father of Greystripe's kits (something that both of them are extremely mad about, considering how much they fought at the time) Fireheart finds out that Greystripe's pregnant and they have an arguement, pretty much cutting off all contact with each other. One day Greystripe sneaks out of camp to see Silverstream. Greystripe ends up dying and unlike Silverstream's death in canon, nobody arrives in time to see her die. Fireheart arrives too late and instantly blames Silverstream. Fireheart takes Featherkit and Stormkit back to ThunderClan, and tells the clan the truth about their parentage.
Fireheart falls into a depression, upset about how he spent the last moons his best friend was alive fighting with her. He blames Silverstream for Greystripe's death and fights fiercely to keep Featherkit and Stormkit in ThunderClan. They are fostered by Goldenflower and raised alongside Bramblestar and Tawnypelt. Fireheart ends up becoming a father to all four of them (Tawnypelt stays in ThunderClan). Greystripe gives Firestar a life in StarClan instead of Silverstream, giving Firestar a life of forgiveness to forgive Silverstream with.
Also because Feathertail and Stormfur live in TC, Feathertail never dies and lives to be old. Briarlight, Blossomfall and Bumblestripe either don't exist or are the kits of Feathertail instead (Idk who the father is)
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Post by vectoring34 on Apr 25, 2023 14:21:52 GMT -5
Depends on who is changing genders. Is it everyone or just one character/a few specific ones? I did enjoy reading some of the fanfics in the past in which Firestar is the only cat to get genderbend because seeing the choice of mates made by the authors and how it would affect their story was often quite fun to see. I've seen she-cat Firestar (but also non-genderbend Firestar) get paired off with a number of toms such as Graystripe, Longtail, Dustpelt, Tigerstar (usually doesn't end well for obvious reasons), Onestar (tends to not end well either) and Ravenpaw (not a fan if it's with Firestar as a she-cat because I just see Ravenpaw as him being gay). During the first arc and most others, nothing much would probably change for Firestar apart from whoever her (calling him by those pronouns here since this is genderbending) mate will be. Of course, there's also stories were she still ends up with Sandstorm (either with her still as a she-cat or sometimes as a tom) but I prefer ones where Firestar gets a different mate anyways (even outside of this scenario but that's a seperate topic). Sorry about basically picking the easiest option with my favorite character lol. There's a PMV about Warriors genderbending which depicts differences between how a character (Squirrelflight in this case) might have been treated in comparison if she'd been a tom instead which I still think to be an interesting concept: One thing I don't get in that PMV is that the fire scene still happens, despite Ashfur here knowing that the three aren't Squirrelflight's kits to begin with.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Apr 25, 2023 14:26:35 GMT -5
Depends on who is changing genders. Is it everyone or just one character/a few specific ones? I did enjoy reading some of the fanfics in the past in which Firestar is the only cat to get genderbend because seeing the choice of mates made by the authors and how it would affect their story was often quite fun to see. I've seen she-cat Firestar (but also non-genderbend Firestar) get paired off with a number of toms such as Graystripe, Longtail, Dustpelt, Tigerstar (usually doesn't end well for obvious reasons), Onestar (tends to not end well either) and Ravenpaw (not a fan if it's with Firestar as a she-cat because I just see Ravenpaw as him being gay). During the first arc and most others, nothing much would probably change for Firestar apart from whoever her (calling him by those pronouns here since this is genderbending) mate will be. Of course, there's also stories were she still ends up with Sandstorm (either with her still as a she-cat or sometimes as a tom) but I prefer ones where Firestar gets a different mate anyways (even outside of this scenario but that's a seperate topic). Sorry about basically picking the easiest option with my favorite character lol. There's a PMV about Warriors genderbending which depicts differences between how a character (Squirrelflight in this case) might have been treated in comparison if she'd been a tom instead which I still think to be an interesting concept: One thing I don't get in that PMV is that the fire scene still happens, despite Ashfur here knowing that the three aren't Squirrelflight's kits to begin with. Yeah, true. Probably just a consistency error on the the creator's part. They did mention in the description that their focus was moreso on the drawings rather than the overall story (and thus probably also continuity).
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