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Post by ombredecorbeau2003 on Jan 5, 2023 6:07:18 GMT -5
-Tigerstar give theirs names's warrior to Graypaw and Mistpaw in the beginning of Shadow. -Mothwing dies of heart attack like Sagewhisker in Yellowfang's Secret. Frostpaw go to ThunderClan for continue his apprenticeship with Alderheart. Fidgetflake is the temporary medecine cats of RiverClan. -Owlnose is assassined by Duskfur. Splashtail become leader but Tigerstar appoints Icewing deputy, to anger of RiverClan. -Berryheart asks to Tawnypelt to lead the rebellion against Tigerstar and take his place before he becomes like his grandfather. -Bramblestar is impeached. Squirrelflight is leader and appoints Lionblaze deputy but Thornclaw protests on the nepotism of Firestar's kin like in Graystripe's Vow / Darkness Within and suggests Ivypool like deputy. ThunderClan votes with the stones at Jayfeather's suggestion and Ivypool becomes deputy. -Squirrelflight, Leafstar, Tawnypelt and Duskfur organize a secret Gathering to talk about the Tigerstar case and organize a rebellion plan. -Daisy visits Smoky, Daisy and Coriander and they reveal to her that they saw Duskfur alone the day the dogs killed Curlfeather. -ThunderClan, SkyClan, RiverClan, and Tawnypelt and Berryheart and his supporters attack ShadowClan who are helped by WindClan and the warriors's RiverClan pro-Tigerstar like Icewing and Harelight. -Fringewhisker fights her kin and Spireclaw is killed by Gravelnose wanting to stop them. -Tawnypelt is killed after giving up fighting her son. -Snaketooth, Sneezecloud and Harelight die. -Bayshine is accidentally killed by Sunbeam. -Berryheart is killed by Nightheart. -Duskfur tries to kill Frostpaw but Splashtail intervenes.
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Post by ombredecorbeau2003 on Jan 5, 2023 8:44:41 GMT -5
-Sunbeam break up with Nightheart -Hollyleaf had visited Duskfur and Berryheart in theirs dreams : she want to do cancel the reform of the rule 1 of warrior code. It's she who encouraged the two she-cats to action. She visits Sunbeam. Since StarClan, Hollyleaf unites the antis-reform and incited them to overthrow the leaders for change the reform. Since the battle, with the dead's Spireclaw, Sunbeam is unfavorable to the legality of romantics relationships between clans. -Kestrelflight dies. -Whitewing and Brackenfur dies. -Nightheart takes control of RiverClan with The Kin and become Nightstar : he want that the 5 clans become one, LionClan, for to allow the relationships inter-clans. -Nightstar promises Frostpaw to change the medecine cats's code to allow him to take Splashtail as his mate. -Sunbeam overthrow Tigerstar and become Sunstar : she want overthrow the leaders for to cancel the reform of the rule 1. -Sunstar takes control SkyClan and Nightstar takes control WindClan : ThunderClan is surrounded. -Brambleclaw is killed by Nightstar protecting Squirrelflight. -Cherryfall, Thornclaw and Lilyheart are killed. -Hollyleaf gets out of StarClan thanks to connection with Sunbeam and takes possession of his body thanks to the method's Firestar in A Light in the Mist. -Squirrelflight become Squirrelstar. -Frostpaw become leader's RiverClan, Froststar : she become healer like Stoneteller. -Hollyleaf is killed by Sunstar (ASC) because she has changed his opinion on the reform after a discussion with Crowfeather. -Nightstar and Sunstar dies and go in the Dark Forest. -The reform is improved : the cats that join another clan will be exempt from battle against their native clan. -Froststar ask the reform of medecine cats's code : the medecine cats can to have a mate and can to have of kits if someone can replace them for six moons. -Froststar and Splashtail are of kits. -Splashtail is deputy. -Splashtail replace temporary Froststar like leader, Fognose replace temporary Splashtail like deputy and Fidgetflake / Alderheart replace temporary Froststar like medecine cats for six moons.
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Post by Lunar-Fox on Jan 5, 2023 12:54:25 GMT -5
-Tigerstar give theirs names's warrior to Graypaw and Mistpaw in the beginning of Shadow. -Mothwing dies of heart attack like Sagewhisker in Yellowfang's Secret. Frostpaw go to ThunderClan for continue his apprenticeship with Alderheart. Fidgetflake is the temporary medecine cats of RiverClan. -Owlnose is assassined by Duskfur. Splashtail become leader but Tigerstar appoints Icewing deputy, to anger of RiverClan. -Berryheart asks to Tawnypelt to lead the rebellion against Tigerstar and take his place before he becomes like his grandfather. -Bramblestar is impeached. Squirrelflight is leader and appoints Lionblaze deputy but Thornclaw protests on the nepotism of Firestar's kin like in Graystripe's Vow / Darkness Within and suggests Ivypool like deputy. ThunderClan votes with the stones at Jayfeather's suggestion and Ivypool becomes deputy. -Squirrelflight, Leafstar, Tawnypelt and Duskfur organize a secret Gathering to talk about the Tigerstar case and organize a rebellion plan. -Daisy visits Smoky, Daisy and Coriander and they reveal to her that they saw Duskfur alone the day the dogs killed Curlfeather. -ThunderClan, SkyClan, RiverClan, and Tawnypelt and Berryheart and his supporters attack ShadowClan who are helped by WindClan and the warriors's RiverClan pro-Tigerstar like Icewing and Harelight. -Fringewhisker fights her kin and Spireclaw is killed by Gravelnose wanting to stop them. -Tawnypelt is killed after giving up fighting her son. -Snaketooth, Sneezecloud and Harelight die. -Bayshine is accidentally killed by Sunbeam. -Berryheart is killed by Nightheart. -Duskfur tries to kill Frostpaw but Splashtail intervenes. I think Tigerstar has better things to worry about then making some apprentices warriors Ivypool I don't think is gonna become deputy Snaketooth is unlikely to die, as she is based off of Kate's mods on her blog
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Post by Lunar-Fox on Jan 5, 2023 12:56:30 GMT -5
-Sunbeam break up with Nightheart -Hollyleaf had visited Duskfur and Berryheart in theirs dreams : she want to do cancel the reform of the rule 1 of warrior code. It's she who encouraged the two she-cats to action. She visits Sunbeam. Since StarClan, Hollyleaf unites the antis-reform and incited them to overthrow the leaders for change the reform. Since the battle, with the dead's Spireclaw, Sunbeam is unfavorable to the legality of romantics relationships between clans. -Kestrelflight dies. -Whitewing and Brackenfur dies. -Nightheart takes control of RiverClan with The Kin and become Nightstar : he want that the 5 clans become one, LionClan, for to allow the relationships inter-clans. -Nightstar promises Frostpaw to change the medecine cats's code to allow him to take Splashtail as his mate. -Sunbeam overthrow Tigerstar and become Sunstar : she want overthrow the leaders for to cancel the reform of the rule 1. -Sunstar takes control SkyClan and Nightstar takes control WindClan : ThunderClan is surrounded. -Brambleclaw is killed by Nightstar protecting Squirrelflight. -Cherryfall, Thornclaw and Lilyheart are killed. -Hollyleaf gets out of StarClan thanks to connection with Sunbeam and takes possession of his body thanks to the method's Firestar in A Light in the Mist. -Squirrelflight become Squirrelstar. -Frostpaw become leader's RiverClan, Froststar : she become healer like Stoneteller. -Hollyleaf is killed by Sunstar (ASC) because she has changed his opinion on the reform after a discussion with Crowfeather. -Nightstar and Sunstar dies and go in the Dark Forest. -The reform is improved : the cats that join another clan will be exempt from battle against their native clan. -Froststar ask the reform of medecine cats's code : the medecine cats can to have a mate and can to have of kits if someone can replace them for six moons. -Froststar and Splashtail are of kits. -Splashtail is deputy. -Splashtail replace temporary Froststar like leader, Fognose replace temporary Splashtail like deputy and Fidgetflake / Alderheart replace temporary Froststar like medecine cats for six moons. I doubt Sunbeam is going to break up with Nightheart... I highly doubt Hollyleaf is going to come back as a villian Nightstar and Sunstar I bet are NOT going to happen Froststar? No way
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Post by 🌸🐥silvermoon2🐥🌸 on Jan 5, 2023 15:46:09 GMT -5
-Lightleap had something to do with Reedwhiskers death -Mistystar was poisened -Splashtail played a part in Mistystar, Reedwhisker, and Curlfeather's death's -Sunbeam and Nightheart end up breaking up -Nightheart moves back to ThunderClan and finds his place their, becoming a much more mature cat in the end - One of the missing SkyClan cats will be found(most likely wont happen, but I really hope it does)
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Jan 5, 2023 16:28:41 GMT -5
Sunbeam and Nightheart breaking up would be a surprise but not an unwelcome one for me. They’re cute but I do have other preferences. Plus Sunbeam hasn’t said yes yet. I think she’ll either say yes in the beginning of shadow or hesitate for a bit.
Never heard of the Hollyleaf theory, sounds cool
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jan 5, 2023 16:45:22 GMT -5
These are moreso my hopes than outright ASC predictions but who knows (some of them might come true):
-Splashtail is revealed to be a villain (there have only been speculations in the fandom based on hints so far) -Berryheart becomes a full on villain instead of only being an antagonist (I just want more female villains) -RiverClan conspiracy gets fully or partly revealed in Shadow (or at least more hints at what might be going on) -ShadowClan rebellion (kind of a recycled plotline at this point in terms of "trope" but oh well) -Tigerstar gets overthrown/outvoted (will probably not happen but I want him to just loose power) -Bramblestar retires and so does Squirrelflight, which means a new leader and deputy for ThunderClan -Mothwing dies (I love her and I'm sorry) -Leafstar dies (once again adore her but also want Hawkwing to be leader) -NightSun breaks up/is not endgame -Nightheart returns to ThunderClan and has accepted his legacy while also staying true to himself -Sunbeam becomes deputy under Cloverfoot (not going to be happen since Tigerstar is unlikely to die) -Frostpaw is revealed to be destined for leadership not healing (not likely in canon but has great AU potential)
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Post by ombredecorbeau2003 on Jan 6, 2023 0:47:53 GMT -5
We need a name for those who want to cancel the reform : the True Code for exemple. Hollyleaf, Berryheart, Duskfur, Yarrowleaf, Snaketooth, Grassheart, Whorlpelt, Stonewing and Snowbird...as a far-right nationalist movement, preaching loyalty beyond the heart because even if inter-clan relations are legal, the heart can still hinder loyalty in battle, for example, if Fringewhisker and Spireclaw found themselves facing Nettlesplash or Palesky. We could even imagine the OAS, for example, Berryheart trying to drown Nightheart and Fringewhisker in the lake like Darktail.
Hollyleaf, after the events of The Broken Code, feels guilty for Ashfur's actions, as he might not have been in StarClan had she not murdered her, and the consequences, including code reform, because even if she has forgiven Squirrelflight and Leafpool, I don't think she is in favor of change, for example in The Forgotten Warrior when she talks with Ivypool after she has spoken with Redwillow. Given her background, Hollyleaf has good reason to be against change because even if inter-clan relations are legal, the issues are the same. Leafpool and Squirrelflight lied so their comrades wouldn't reject Lionblaze, Hollyleaf and Jayfeather knowing they were Half-Clan. There is also the example of Stormfur and Feathertail, the fact that Graystripe joined the Clan of his companion did not change the fact that his young were victims of mistrust by the warriors, Stormfur still keeps a grudge in Graystripe's Vow. In Power of Three, Hollyleaf had become an antagonist after killing Ashfur. Because of that Ashfur was in StarClan, and in The Broken Code he was able to be the main antagonist because of that, because of Squirrelflight and Hollyleaf he became hateful towards the codebreakers and oppressed them, that which led to the code change in A Light in the Mist, so in A Starless Clan, Hollyleaf will once again become an antagonist wanting to cancel the consequences of Ashfur's actions. It would be perfect, I think. Besides, I'm still upset that Hollyleaf didn't have a role in The Broken Code, other than appearing in the bonus chapter of Lost Stars. She would have her place in A Starless Clan. Besides, StarClan got quiet in A Starless Clan, Hollyleaf might change that or take advantage of it.
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Post by ombredecorbeau2003 on Jan 6, 2023 1:07:23 GMT -5
So, Hollyleaf would like to change this even if she were to be considered a bad cat like Tigerstar, Ashfur or Darktail, even if she had to do bad things, for example, incite Duskfur to take advantage of the deaths of Mistystar and Reedwhisker to seize power , assassinate Frostpaw and Curlfeather to deprive RiverClan of its StarClan-connected medicine cat and its new leader, so that Duskfur will question reform when she is leader, same with Berryheart, Hollyleaf is ready to shoulder this burden. It will do exactly the same as the Dark Forest, which trained warriors in their dreams. Hollyleaf would form the True Code by creating contacts between the resisters, inspiring them to unite and overthrow the leaders. It would get him out of StarClan, like the Dark Forest in The Last Hope. Hollyleaf would be like the Christ who will come to put the clans back on the right path, Ashfur being the Antichrist in The Broken Code.
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Post by cygna on Jan 6, 2023 16:02:52 GMT -5
Likely to happen:Mothwing either dies this arc or becomes Mothstar. Berryheart will die. Duskfur will die. Either Crowfeather or Harestar will die. Breezepelt will be made deputy by the one who doesn't die. Either Sparkpelt or Sorrelstripe will die for Nightheart's development. Bramblestar will be booted from his position as leader. One of Cinnamontail and Slatefur's kits will probably die because they just have too many. I think they're more likely to die as apprentices or warriors though. Lightleap and Blazefire will have kits. Harelight, Icewing, or both will join ShadowClan permanently since they were supportive of Tigerstar 2 and will likely be excluded by their clanmates for being "traitors". Spireclaw and Fringewhisker will have kits who Berryheart treats horribly. Frostpaw will have Splashtail's kits but their relationship won't work out like YellowRagged and LeafCrow. One or more of the ThunderClan elder's will die. Needletail cameo. Leafstar dies and Hawkwing becomes leader. He'll choose either Plumwillow, Dewspring, or Rootspring as deputy. Possible but not super likely: Squirrelflight FINALLY dies! Finchlight becomes a villain. Spotfur will die, leaving her children miserable orphans to set them up as protagonists for the next arc. StormCherry Twingbranch will have Finleap's kits Sunbeam will have Nightheart's kits by the end of the arc if they both survive. Finchlight x Bayshine Things I want that won't happen:Minnowtail has Mousewhisker's kits and he's torn between leaving Daisy alone and being with Minnowtail and his kits. Daisy encourages him to be a good mate and father even though it devastates her to see him go. Lionblaze dies. Thornclaw and Blossomfall die. Ivypool will become Ivystar and makes Lillyheart or Cherryfall deputy.
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Post by valleylight on Jan 6, 2023 17:34:55 GMT -5
-Nightheart’s request to join ShadowClan will prompt an ultimatum from Berryheart to Tigerstar -Nightheart will be thoroughly disillusioned by life in ShadowClan -Shadowsight and Puddleshine will talk to Frostpaw about whether her connection to StarClan is genuine or not in Shadow. Shadowsight will suggest that she can still be a medicine cat even without a connection to StarClan, and Puddleshine will relate to her because he had to take on many of the same huge responsibilities as a very young apprentice, in a collapsing Clan -Whistlepaw will also help Frostpaw in her decision, and will play an important role in Wind -The dogs will return, and Harestar will help Shadow/RiverClan investigate whether some cat is controlling them and face them down in Wind
Endgame: -Some kind of compromise will be reached regarding maintaining Clan loyalty/identity and the new rules about switching Clans. -Warriors will be given more say in their Clan leaders’ decisions, and the way leaders are deposed will be revised -A new law will be added to the warrior code about what to do in case both the leader and deputy die
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jan 7, 2023 7:24:08 GMT -5
Personally, the only real hope I have is that Nightheart finds his own way, and not have to deal with ThunderClan. I think it's kinda weird for him to go back to the clan that invalidated him, regardless of him developing more. I'd rather him just be in a different environment, as long as it's not ThunderClan (unless they change how they treat him, but it would just be weird like how Mothwing had no choice but to go back to Mistystar after everything she put her through in TBC). I don't dislike NightSun, but I'm fine with them either getting together or staying friends, it doesn't bother me either way as long as it's done well.
My other hopes are Squirrelflight gets iced, Bramblestar retires, and Tigertwo is impeached. Berryheart goes full-on villain, and Frostpaw (hopefully) gets actual character development. I could care less what happens to LightBlaze, they're both trash, and I think Sunbeam deserves happiness, regardless if that's with someone else, or on her own.
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Jan 8, 2023 0:59:01 GMT -5
- Squirrelflight dies before Bramblestar, giving us some boring as hell arc about how Bramblestar misses her so much. - Ivypool becomes deputy. - Lightleap has conflict with her parents (probably with Tigerstar). - Pouncestep finally does something. - ThunderClan and SkyClan alliance to try and stop Tigerstar's weird takeover plan. - Writers put their incredibly stupid Frecklewish decision to some good use. - Dovewing dies. Boring Tigerstar grief arc, like Bramblestar. Does cause him and Lightleap to bond though. - Berryheart continues to be a nuisance. - Greencough in WindClan. Harestar loses a life and Crowfeather dies. - Nightheart has more gender envy for Nightcloud. - Despite what Kate thinks, the guardian cats show up again. - Barley hopefully shows up.
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Jan 8, 2023 1:29:29 GMT -5
I think Tigerstar has better things to worry about then making some apprentices warriors But. That's his job. He started running the clan. They're warrior age. Why would that not be his first priority?
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Post by ombredecorbeau2003 on Jan 9, 2023 10:00:08 GMT -5
Squirrelflight, Crowfeather, Tigerstar II and Harestar won't die in A Starless Clan, that's 100% sure. In Darkness Within Squirrelflight had to come to terms with Bramblestar's death and assume his responsibilities as the leader of ThunderClan, eventually Bramblestar returned, in A Light in the Mist Graystripe went to the Dark Forest to fight his nemesis Ashfur in his place and died of it. At the end of A Light in the Mist, the warriors of ThunderClan agree that Squirrelflight will remain deputy and become their official leader one day, if I'm not mistaken (I haven't read A Light in the Mist, I am to A Vision of Shadows, I still have River of Fire and The Raging Storm to read). For all of these reasons, it would really suck for Squirrelflight to die in A Starless Clan. Because, Graystripe would have died for nothing, Squirrelflight would have done better to die facing Ashfur, it's as if Firestar had survived his final fight against Tigerstar in The Last Hope, which was the ideal end for his character, to die in A Vision of Shadows. Logically if Squirrelflight did not die in A Light in the Mist while having her die in a final fight against her sworn enemy would have been an obvious end for her character, it means that she still has something to accomplish in A Starless Clan, otherwise it's really crap.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jan 9, 2023 10:59:00 GMT -5
I think Tigerstar has better things to worry about then making some apprentices warriors But. That's his job. He started running the clan. They're warrior age. Why would that not be his first priority? Exactly, he also seems to be aware of the fact that Mistpaw (and thus also Graypaw as well) should already be warriors based on appearance at the end of Sky at least in terms of the narrative from Sunbeam's PoV implying as such (page 336 so literally the last page of the book minus the Bamboo Kingdom excerpt): Just noticed that they got Mistpaw's pelt description wrong here lol since she is actually supposed to be a tortoiseshell-and-white tabby instead of a gray cat while her littermates are gray (Graypaw is a silver tabby and Frostpaw is light gray with darker parts).
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