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Post by Jaysnow on Dec 27, 2022 23:57:43 GMT -5
On HarperCollins it's "528". This is about the same length as Moth Flight's Vision or Crookedstar's Promise.
MFV had 479 pages of main story while CP had 491. Could be slightly less than 479 or somewhere in between 479 and 491. This is a rough approximation, though.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Dec 28, 2022 15:35:16 GMT -5
I'm already so excited for the short comic at the end as well as the cover art. Since we haven't really got that much official artwork of Riverstar.
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Post by Jaysnow on Dec 28, 2022 17:16:15 GMT -5
I'm already so excited for the short comic at the end as well as the cover art. Since we haven't really got that much official artwork of Riverstar. Same! I’m so excited for the cover, comic, and the main story tbh. Should be really good. I wonder when the comic will take place and what Dawn of the Clans characters will make their comic debut. I hope Gray Wing (if it’s Riverstar joining StarClan?) Skystar would be nice. Honestly, a lot of the ones that didn’t get shown in the Moth Flight’s Vision comic. But it would he hard to fit a lot of the ones I would like to see…
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Post by *Faith* on Dec 28, 2022 17:50:35 GMT -5
I'm already so excited for the short comic at the end as well as the cover art. Since we haven't really got that much official artwork of Riverstar. Same! I’m so excited for the cover, comic, and the main story tbh. Should be really good. I wonder when the comic will take place and what Dawn of the Clans characters will make their comic debut. I hope Gray Wing (if it’s Riverstar joining StarClan?) Skystar would be nice. Honestly, a lot of the ones that didn’t get shown in the Moth Flight’s Vision comic. But it would he hard to fit a lot of the ones I would like to see… It would be interesting if they chose for it to be about his death since that's what they did with Moth Flight. Speaking of which, we already have Spider Paw and Drizzle appearing in that one. This one I want Riverstar (obviously, but Tigerheart and Graystripe didn't appear in their comics). I also wouldn't mind Night and Dappled Pelt.
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Post by Jaysnow on Dec 28, 2022 19:37:19 GMT -5
Same! I’m so excited for the cover, comic, and the main story tbh. Should be really good. I wonder when the comic will take place and what Dawn of the Clans characters will make their comic debut. I hope Gray Wing (if it’s Riverstar joining StarClan?) Skystar would be nice. Honestly, a lot of the ones that didn’t get shown in the Moth Flight’s Vision comic. But it would he hard to fit a lot of the ones I would like to see… It would be interesting if they chose for it to be about his death since that's what they did with Moth Flight. Speaking of which, we already have Spider Paw and Drizzle appearing in that one. This one I want Riverstar (obviously, but Tigerheart and Graystripe didn't appear in their comics). I also wouldn't mind Night and Dappled Pelt. Honestly I would love a graphic novel set in that era. Easy opportunity to show a lot of characters. Maybe one on a supporting character, like Jagged Peak or Shattered Ice.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Dec 28, 2022 20:06:52 GMT -5
I'm already so excited for the short comic at the end as well as the cover art. Since we haven't really got that much official artwork of Riverstar. Same! I’m so excited for the cover, comic, and the main story tbh. Should be really good. I wonder when the comic will take place and what Dawn of the Clans characters will make their comic debut. I hope Gray Wing (if it’s Riverstar joining StarClan?) Skystar would be nice. Honestly, a lot of the ones that didn’t get shown in the Moth Flight’s Vision comic. But it would he hard to fit a lot of the ones I would like to see… I hope Gray Wing shows up in the comic too. As well as maybe Wind Runner, Tall Shadow, Clear Sky and Thunder (again). So basically my hope is that the short manga will be about River Ripple joining StarClan. Although now I do wonder if there was ever any information about the order in which the Clan founders died in. I know Gray Wing and Tall Shadow died first (obviously seeing as there deaths have already been written in the series). But was there ever any info about how and when the others died? Maybe in a field guide (who knows if that would even be considered as canon anymore though) or in an author chat?
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Dec 28, 2022 20:13:18 GMT -5
It would be interesting if they chose for it to be about his death since that's what they did with Moth Flight. Speaking of which, we already have Spider Paw and Drizzle appearing in that one. This one I want Riverstar (obviously, but Tigerheart and Graystripe didn't appear in their comics). I also wouldn't mind Night and Dappled Pelt. Honestly I would love a graphic novel set in that era. Easy opportunity to show a lot of characters. Maybe one on a supporting character, like Jagged Peak or Shattered Ice. I would love a DotC GN with Owl Eyes as the protagonist. Or maybe Gorse Fur. Both of these cats are said to have led ThunderClan and WindClan respectively after the founders died (although I do hope this eventually gets fully confirmed in a DotC sequel or updated Field Guide such as the Ultimate Guide for 2023 as an example). Raven Pelt (second leader of ShadowClan) would also be an interesting choice for this. Or Star Flower.
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Post by Jaysnow on Dec 29, 2022 1:08:46 GMT -5
Same! I’m so excited for the cover, comic, and the main story tbh. Should be really good. I wonder when the comic will take place and what Dawn of the Clans characters will make their comic debut. I hope Gray Wing (if it’s Riverstar joining StarClan?) Skystar would be nice. Honestly, a lot of the ones that didn’t get shown in the Moth Flight’s Vision comic. But it would he hard to fit a lot of the ones I would like to see… I hope Gray Wing shows up in the comic too. As well as maybe Wind Runner, Tall Shadow, Clear Sky and Thunder (again). So basically my hope is that the short manga will be about River Ripple joining StarClan. Although now I do wonder if there was ever any information about the order in which the Clan founders died in. I know Gray Wing and Tall Shadow died first (obviously seeing as there deaths have already been written in the series). But was there ever any info about how and when the others died? Maybe in a field guide (who knows if that would even be considered as canon anymore though) or in an author chat? He's the main guy for DOTC it would suck if he didn't. Wind Runner, Tall Shadow, Clear Sky, and Thunder (even for a second time) all deserve to as well. I dunno if they'll do Riverstar joining StarClan for certain, there's a couple different routes they could go I guess. I think it'd be cool if it was, though. No, Gray Wing and Tall Shadow/Shadowstar are the only confirmed deaths. We have no idea how Skystar, Thunderstar, Windstar, or Riverstar died when they did. I bet more than anything Riverstar lived to an old age and died of natural causes.
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Post by Jaysnow on Dec 29, 2022 1:15:20 GMT -5
Honestly I would love a graphic novel set in that era. Easy opportunity to show a lot of characters. Maybe one on a supporting character, like Jagged Peak or Shattered Ice. I would love a DotC GN with Owl Eyes as the protagonist. Or maybe Gorse Fur. Both of these cats are said to have led ThunderClan and WindClan respectively after the founders died (although I do hope this eventually gets fully confirmed in a DotC sequel or updated Field Guide such as the Ultimate Guide for 2023 as an example). Raven Pelt (second leader of ShadowClan) would also be an interesting choice for this. Or Star Flower. I'd read a GN about Gorse Fur for sure. I think a novella would be even better but since those seem to be done (for the time being)... I'd love a DOTC sequel arc. I can't get enough of that era. I hope the Ultimate Guide for next year is a completely new one as well. Raven Pelt for sure would be nice to see real confirmation on, although we all know it happened. Star Flower, gosh, hope not tbh. I'd rather second SkyClan leader end up being Sparrow Fur. No thanks to Starstar Flowerstar.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Dec 29, 2022 5:28:40 GMT -5
I would love a DotC GN with Owl Eyes as the protagonist. Or maybe Gorse Fur. Both of these cats are said to have led ThunderClan and WindClan respectively after the founders died (although I do hope this eventually gets fully confirmed in a DotC sequel or updated Field Guide such as the Ultimate Guide for 2023 as an example). Raven Pelt (second leader of ShadowClan) would also be an interesting choice for this. Or Star Flower. I'd read a GN about Gorse Fur for sure. I think a novella would be even better but since those seem to be done (for the time being)... I'd love a DOTC sequel arc. I can't get enough of that era. I hope the Ultimate Guide for next year is a completely new one as well. Raven Pelt for sure would be nice to see real confirmation on, although we all know it happened. Star Flower, gosh, hope not tbh. I'd rather second SkyClan leader end up being Sparrow Fur. No thanks to Starstar Flowerstar. I dislike (moreso hate) Star Flower as a character (and Clear Sky too). But considering that other characters whom I dislike (hate lol) such as Mudclaw (GN), Onestar (SE), Leopardstar (SE), Tigerheartstar (SE) and Blackstar (Novella) have gotten books as well, I've accepted the fact that other disliked battle cats of mine might get ones in the future. And seeing how Star Flower was quite an important DotC character, I'm not going to be surprised if she (or her mate) get a book, in which ever capacity (be it an SE or GN). Although I'd much rather prefer a book about Slate or Violet Dawn (to expand on the latter's character especially). Or even a Wind Runner book (whom I also not like much as a character but seeing as Tall Shadow and Thunder got books while River Ripple is getting one soonish, the other founders will probably get ones as well, which thus only leaves Wind Runner and Clear Sky).
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Post by Jaysnow on Dec 29, 2022 13:36:43 GMT -5
I'd read a GN about Gorse Fur for sure. I think a novella would be even better but since those seem to be done (for the time being)... I'd love a DOTC sequel arc. I can't get enough of that era. I hope the Ultimate Guide for next year is a completely new one as well. Raven Pelt for sure would be nice to see real confirmation on, although we all know it happened. Star Flower, gosh, hope not tbh. I'd rather second SkyClan leader end up being Sparrow Fur. No thanks to Starstar Flowerstar. I dislike (moreso hate) Star Flower as a character (and Clear Sky too). But considering that other characters whom I dislike (hate lol) such as Mudclaw (GN), Onestar (SE), Leopardstar (SE), Tigerheartstar (SE) and Blackstar (Novella) have gotten books as well, I've accepted the fact that other disliked battle cats of mine might get ones in the future. And seeing how Star Flower was quite an important DotC character, I'm not going to be surprised if she (or her mate) get a book, in which ever capacity (be it an SE or GN). Although I'd much rather prefer a book about Slate or Violet Dawn (to expand on the latter's character especially). Or even a Wind Runner book (whom I also not like much as a character but seeing as Tall Shadow and Thunder got books while River Ripple is getting one soonish, the other founders will probably get ones as well, which thus only leaves Wind Runner and Clear Sky). I don't really like Star Flower, either. Although yeah, basically anyone can get a SE/novella/GN, whatever. I hope she doesn't, though. I think a Skystar book would be interesting if it's set towards the end of his life. We could see how much he's really changed. I think it would be cool if every founder got a book of some kind.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Dec 29, 2022 13:53:09 GMT -5
I dislike (moreso hate) Star Flower as a character (and Clear Sky too). But considering that other characters whom I dislike (hate lol) such as Mudclaw (GN), Onestar (SE), Leopardstar (SE), Tigerheartstar (SE) and Blackstar (Novella) have gotten books as well, I've accepted the fact that other disliked battle cats of mine might get ones in the future. And seeing how Star Flower was quite an important DotC character, I'm not going to be surprised if she (or her mate) get a book, in which ever capacity (be it an SE or GN). Although I'd much rather prefer a book about Slate or Violet Dawn (to expand on the latter's character especially). Or even a Wind Runner book (whom I also not like much as a character but seeing as Tall Shadow and Thunder got books while River Ripple is getting one soonish, the other founders will probably get ones as well, which thus only leaves Wind Runner and Clear Sky). I don't really like Star Flower, either. Although yeah, basically anyone can get a SE/novella/GN, whatever. I hope she doesn't, though. I think a Skystar book would be interesting if it's set towards the end of his life. We could see how much he's really changed. I think it would be cool if every founder got a book of some kind. Yeah, even though I don't like Skystar (just like with Star Flower), him getting a book would definitely be interesting. Although I'd hope for an SE instead of a GN or Novella just because it would give him more time as a character. Despite him being a PoV in DotC, Skystar had the least amount of chapters from his own perspective, if I'm remembering correctly. If he ever does get a book, I'll hope it includes some scenes of him as a StarClan cat. Such as his reaction to SkyClan leaving the forest territories/the other four Clans from his own eyes, him seeking out Firestar and so on. Perhaps even an outright confirmation that Cloudstar is his direct descendant which would then make Tigerstar's and Willowpelt's line be related to the SkyClan founder as an addition to them being already confirmed to be related to SkyClan via the CloudBird kits Gorseclaw and Spottedpelt. But if not, that's just a fun headcanon of mine ever since it was said that Cloudstar has the same shade of fur as Skystar.
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Post by Jaysnow on Dec 29, 2022 14:04:11 GMT -5
I don't really like Star Flower, either. Although yeah, basically anyone can get a SE/novella/GN, whatever. I hope she doesn't, though. I think a Skystar book would be interesting if it's set towards the end of his life. We could see how much he's really changed. I think it would be cool if every founder got a book of some kind. Yeah, even though I don't like Skystar (just like with Star Flower), him getting a book would definitely be interesting. Although I'd hope for an SE instead of a GN or Novella just because it would give him more time as a character. Despite him being a PoV in DotC, Skystar had the least amount of chapters from his own perspective, if I'm remembering correctly. If he ever does get a book, I'll hope it includes some scenes of him as a StarClan cat. Such as his reaction to SkyClan leaving the forest territories/the other four Clans from his own eyes, him seeking out Firestar and so on. Perhaps even an outright confirmation that Cloudstar is his direct descendant which would then make Tigerstar's and Willowpelt's line be related to the SkyClan founder as an addition to them being already confirmed to be related to SkyClan via the CloudBird kits Gorseclaw and Spottedpelt. But if not, that's just a fun headcanon of mine ever since it was said that Cloudstar has the same shade of fur as Skystar. Agreed with most of that. But Skystar didn’t seek out Firestar, his descendant Cloudstar (my own headcanon) did. A Skystar SE would be really interesting.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Dec 29, 2022 14:16:11 GMT -5
Yeah, even though I don't like Skystar (just like with Star Flower), him getting a book would definitely be interesting. Although I'd hope for an SE instead of a GN or Novella just because it would give him more time as a character. Despite him being a PoV in DotC, Skystar had the least amount of chapters from his own perspective, if I'm remembering correctly. If he ever does get a book, I'll hope it includes some scenes of him as a StarClan cat. Such as his reaction to SkyClan leaving the forest territories/the other four Clans from his own eyes, him seeking out Firestar and so on. Perhaps even an outright confirmation that Cloudstar is his direct descendant which would then make Tigerstar's and Willowpelt's line be related to the SkyClan founder as an addition to them being already confirmed to be related to SkyClan via the CloudBird kits Gorseclaw and Spottedpelt. But if not, that's just a fun headcanon of mine ever since it was said that Cloudstar has the same shade of fur as Skystar. Agreed with most of that. But Skystar didn’t seek out Firestar, his descendant Cloudstar (my own headcanon) did. A Skystar SE would be really interesting. Whoops, miswrote there. And also seemingly misremembered that Skystar ever spoke to Firestar lol. Blaming the German book translation of FQ and Warriors in general for that because of naming SkyClan WolkenClan (CloudClan) and having two characters named Cloudstar in it. The Cloudstar from the English version but also the renamed Clear Sky/Skystar (who is called Wolken/Clouds then Wolkenhimmel/Cloud Sky and then Wolkenstern/Cloudstar as well). The German translation made things so confusing for any Germans who then read the English version and saw the original names for the Clan and characters lmao. Pretty sure I at one point thought that Cloudstar and Skystar were the same cat due to this smh.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Dec 29, 2022 19:28:24 GMT -5
damn the SEs just keep getting longer
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