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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2022 20:20:14 GMT -5
If Bramblestar retires, do you think the next leader would only get 8 lives (as we've seen with Sunstar), or do you think there will be changes to the warrior code by that point regarding leaders, either in how lives are distributed (or taken away), or with cycling through leaders more often like Nightheart suggested and Starclan either not handing out nine lives anymore, or perhaps not shorting a cat a life if the old leader steps down?
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Post by BobTheHuman on Aug 11, 2022 2:19:11 GMT -5
At Least give us a female leader like, Ivypool, Twigbranch, or Eaglewing
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2022 10:49:57 GMT -5
I kinda want Nightheart to be the next leader. It would also be really funny because I’m pretty sure at some point Thornclaw called out asking if Flamepaw or Lionblaze would be the next leader since their related to Firestar
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Aug 11, 2022 11:17:16 GMT -5
If Bramblestar is still alive to enjoy his retirement then I'm pretty sure the next ThunderClan leader (hoping for Ivypool, Nightheart or Stormcloud just so Squirrelflight can rest too) will either only get eight lives by default (maybe StarClan sort of transfers Bramblestar's remaining lives except for his last one on to the new leader) or they regard them as a seperate authority and give the full nine lives. I really hope Nightheart's idea does not become reality since my enjoyment of the ceremony and this old tradition in the series continues to be strong in that regard.
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Post by Katanaheart on Aug 11, 2022 12:53:23 GMT -5
Likely the next leader will receive eight lives if Bramblestar retires with one remaining. I just hope that cat isn’t Squirrelflight.
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Post by Stormwind on Aug 11, 2022 15:07:42 GMT -5
Ivypool would be a good choice after everything she's done for the clan. Although I really want someone who isn't related to Firestar to be leader. With his grandkids being medicine cats, it's really like that family has established a monarchy in the clan. That being said, most cats are related to him at this point so I'm not quite sure who is both unrelated while also being a good fit for the role. We're only one book into this new arc so maybe a new character will pop up, or someone will get more screen time so they're developed into leader material.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2022 20:19:11 GMT -5
If I’m being honest though, there’s a good chance that Squirrelflight may actually become leader (sadly) the Erin’s don’t really pay attention to age (unlesss we point it out a lot) *cough* *cough* Mistystar *cough* cough*
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Post by Mistybreeze on Aug 12, 2022 3:18:31 GMT -5
It's Squirrelflight. There is not a chance in StarClan anything is going to happen to her. She will never retire of her own accord, so she'd have to be permanently injured which is also not going to happen. She's not going to die anytime soon either. So really we're guessing who her deputy will be.
This is a long shot, but I vote Flipclaw. He is highly intelligent, introspective, and a critical thinker. Every criticism of the warrior code and Clan life he raised in TBC were completely fair. He did so without unnecessary aggression like Thornclaw. The only obstacle is an apprentice, but he'll likely get one of Spotfur's.
If Squirrelstar happens before he does, my next choice is Ivypool. She has all of Flipclaw's qualities, but she's starting to get old. Not ancient by any means, but definitely middle aged. I'd prefer someone younger so they can have a long reign without the constant complaints about their age.
If she hadn't die, Bristlefrost would have been my first choice.
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Post by Flamefrost on Aug 12, 2022 6:18:43 GMT -5
Likely the next leader will receive eight lives if Bramblestar retires with one remaining. I just hope that cat isn’t Squirrelflight. If Bramblestar retires, I feel Squirrelflight would too. Or Squilf dies which either makes Bramblestar decide to retire, or he asks to give up all his remaining lives to rejoin her in StarClan, which would let the next leader have full lives. As for who I want to be leader, I would love Spotfur or Ivypool, but I know theyre both Firekin. There's just 0 developed non-Firekin characters left in ThunderClan.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2022 11:04:46 GMT -5
Plot twist: Bramblestar resigns his leadership with his remaining eight live, initially promising to return his lives. But than leaves under the cover of night without anyone knowing, and decides to wander as a loner and reflect on his life. Meanwhile everyone at camp is scrambling to find him, as Starclan is unwilling to grant a leader lives until Bramblestar’s revokes his. Probably will never happen, but think it would be funny Plot twist: it does happen and everybody descends into chaos in Thunderclan. Would be a good ending for Thunder tbh
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Post by sphagnosidum on Aug 12, 2022 11:42:22 GMT -5
I want Clans to vote for leaders, so the next in line needs approval from living cats and not only StarClan.
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Aug 12, 2022 12:31:33 GMT -5
I think StarClan can take away the lives now so I think the new leader would get all 9 lives. Either that or they'd forget all about the Sunstar thing.
My dream leader would be Flipclaw, but it also be cool to have the rotating leaders.
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Post by stupidflower on Aug 12, 2022 20:25:07 GMT -5
Flipclaw would be a good leader.
Or maybe some super obscure background cat. What about Dewnose? No one cares about Dewnose, not even his own parents/j
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Aug 12, 2022 21:21:39 GMT -5
Or maybe some super obscure background cat. What about Dewnose? No one cares about Dewnose, not even his own parents/j Don't you mean Dewtail/j
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Post by honeynectar on Aug 13, 2022 10:11:15 GMT -5
I would absolutely love any leader but Squirrelflight and Ivypool, but they'd have to be atleast a senior warrior. I wouldn't even mind having Lionblaze as leader! Having another Tigerheartstar (but ThunderClan edition) could actually be interesting if done right!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2022 10:57:12 GMT -5
Come at me with your torches and pitchforks all you want, but I want to see Squirrelstar as the next leader. However, if she retires (which I find very unlikely) or dies (much more plausible, and I want her to go out with a bang) then I'd enjoy seeing Ivystar or Twigstar (or even Nightstar); if she doesn't, one of them can be her deputy.
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Aug 13, 2022 11:08:18 GMT -5
@bristlefrostmadrigal I'd love Twigstar with Flipclaw as deputy, or Ivystar with Twigbranch as deputy
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Aug 13, 2022 12:42:16 GMT -5
Squirrelflight has proven time and time again she's not fit to be leader let alone deputy. She'd be awful tbh, and she's already got one paw in the grave. I'm just waiting for the Erins to finally ice her, but I'll settle for retirement too. The only reason she'd become leader now is from character bias, which would only hinder the quality of reading even more.
On the other hand Ivypool is a good choice for the next leader, and if she had to pick a deputy, I'm okay with cats like Molewhisker, Flipclaw, Nightheart, or Twigbranch.
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Post by honeynectar on Aug 13, 2022 13:19:41 GMT -5
AGREE!!!!
However I wouldn't really see any of Ivypool's kits or even Nightheart fit for deputy. They're too young imo
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Post by Moonblazer on Aug 14, 2022 11:52:12 GMT -5
My dream come true would be Ivystar with deputy Molewhisker or Cherryfall.
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Post by Tilu on Aug 15, 2022 14:28:14 GMT -5
I kinda want Nightheart to be the next leader. It would also be really funny because I’m pretty sure at some point Thornclaw called out asking if Flamepaw or Lionblaze would be the next leader since their related to Firestar I feel like it's hinted at by the Nightstar references in River (I don't remember how many but even if it was only once, what was the point of bringing up one of the, honestly, most forgettable main series leaders in my opinion) And the removal of the 'Must mentor at least 1 apprentice' rule for some reason?
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Aug 15, 2022 14:36:44 GMT -5
I kinda want Nightheart to be the next leader. It would also be really funny because I’m pretty sure at some point Thornclaw called out asking if Flamepaw or Lionblaze would be the next leader since their related to Firestar I feel like it's hinted at by the Nightstar references in River (I don't remember how many but even if it was only once, what was the point of bringing up one of the, honestly, most forgettable main series leaders in my opinion) And the removal of the 'Must mentor at least 1 apprentice' rule for some reason?
That rule is still there, actually. It was just missing from the initial article for the revised warrior code on the official website but got put back later on, merely going from being the seventh rule to now being the fourteenth one.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Aug 15, 2022 14:38:46 GMT -5
If not Squirrelflight, then Ivypool, though I don't necessarily want her to be leader, either.
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Post by Bristleflight-bristlefrost! on Aug 15, 2022 15:05:02 GMT -5
Twigbranch spotfur or ivypool. If you asked me pre tbc I would of said squirrelflight but she needs rest.
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Post by Papillon on Aug 15, 2022 15:11:47 GMT -5
Literally anyone but lionblaze
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Post by Tilu on Aug 16, 2022 3:17:38 GMT -5
I second that
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Post by auser on Aug 16, 2022 5:49:37 GMT -5
Twigbranch spotfur or ivypool. If you asked me pre tbc I would of said squirrelflight but she needs rest. But Spotfur is currently grieving her mate and has kitten to raise, she might not be in the best mental state to lead a whole clan, I would've said Spotfur in early TBC but not currently, moreover she was a bit impulsive as a youngster though she helped her clanmates by protesting when apprentices had to go outta camp in the winter so she can be quite reasonable
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Post by auser on Aug 16, 2022 5:52:42 GMT -5
Twigbranch doesn't seem to me the kind of cat to be a leader, Ivypool could but she's grieving and traumatised and I would wait a bit more to be sure she matured, Squirrelflight won't be listened to (depends if she is a leader by naturally succeeding Bramblestar, plus it would be cool as she is reasonable, though in River she was quite the opposite) and she's getting old
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Post by auser on Aug 16, 2022 5:54:05 GMT -5
Bristlefrost would've been the perfect leader had she survived
Hollytuft could stir drama
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