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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jun 23, 2022 14:43:22 GMT -5
anyone have any? i have an unfinished shadowclan tree here: as u can see, the one i like from this tree where EFShC is concerned is crowtail and mousewing being ancestors to nightpelt and clawface. i wanted to make crowtail the grandma in a new tree, but im too lazy re-make this tree or start over lol. so for now, this tree shows mousewing as nightpelt's grandpa, and crowtail is his great aunt. nightpelt and crowtail do interact, so i'll take it lol and if anyone was wondering, nightwing (nightpelt's aunt through his unnamed mother that i made up) is the mother of cedarheart's kits, smokepaw and talonpaw, who both died in TNP. i wish we got to see more of some other background cats in the manga like deerleap, mudclaw, toadskip, flintfang, rowanberry, etc. idk if i missed them somewhere in the background though.
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Post by SquipyCheetah on Jun 25, 2022 16:28:15 GMT -5
I have Mousewing as Mudclaw's brother and they're Deerleap's sons.
Crowtail was a young cat who Houndstar befriended and invited to join ShadowClan. Mudclaw surrogated her first litter of Ashheart, Frogtail, and Newtspeck. I have her fown as Clawface and Nightstar's mother with Toadskip as a surrogate.
I stand by aro Crowtail.
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Post by Hollyfall on Jun 25, 2022 20:43:40 GMT -5
Off the top of my head:
Amberleaf, Brackenfoot, and Mudclaw are littermates. They're the kits of Littlebird. Littlebird and Brightflower are sisters, but different litters.
Hollyflower, Stonetooth, Nettlespot, and Archeye are littermates.
Deerleap and Mousewing are the parents of Ashheart, Frogtail, and Newtspeck. Newtspeck was mates with Cloudpelt and they had her three kits (though I'll admit I forget if Cloudpelt could have been around for that)
Lizardfang is the father of Lizardstripe, Featherstorm, and Toadskip. With Nettlespot, Toadskip fathered Nightstar and Clawface. Crowtail herself is Mousewing's sister. Their half-siblings are Blizzardwing and Finchflight, who are littermates. Sagewhisker is Blizzard's and Finch's aunt, whose littermate is one of their parents.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jun 25, 2022 20:54:50 GMT -5
Off the top of my head: Amberleaf, Brackenfoot, and Mudclaw are littermates. They're the kits of Littlebird. Littlebird and Brightflower are sisters, but different litters. Hollyflower, Stonetooth, Nettlespot, and Archeye are littermates. Deerleap and Mousewing are the parents of Ashheart, Frogtail, and Newtspeck. Newtspeck was mates with Cloudpelt and they had her three kits (though I'll admit I forget if Cloudpelt could have been around for that) Lizardfang is the father of Lizardstripe, Featherstorm, and Toadskip. With Nettlespot, Toadskip fathered Nightstar and Clawface. Crowtail herself is Mousewing's sister. Their half-siblings are Blizzardwing and Finchflight, who are littermates. Sagewhisker is Blizzard's and Finch's aunt, whose littermate is one of their parents. oooh these r so different from mine! interesting. i prefer amberleaf x archeye as the parents of ashheart, frogtail, and newtspeck just bc amberleaf has the genes to make newtspeck. and we share amber and bracken being siblings, but i dont see mudclaw as the same age as them. i always saw him older, which is why i usually make ShC Mudclaw the brother of Cedarstar instead i make toadskip, deerleap, and featherstorm siblings just bc of the colors (both toad and deer share the white leg thing) here, i drew them as siblings recently!
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Post by Hollyfall on Jun 25, 2022 23:58:13 GMT -5
Off the top of my head: Amberleaf, Brackenfoot, and Mudclaw are littermates. They're the kits of Littlebird. Littlebird and Brightflower are sisters, but different litters. Hollyflower, Stonetooth, Nettlespot, and Archeye are littermates. Deerleap and Mousewing are the parents of Ashheart, Frogtail, and Newtspeck. Newtspeck was mates with Cloudpelt and they had her three kits (though I'll admit I forget if Cloudpelt could have been around for that) Lizardfang is the father of Lizardstripe, Featherstorm, and Toadskip. With Nettlespot, Toadskip fathered Nightstar and Clawface. Crowtail herself is Mousewing's sister. Their half-siblings are Blizzardwing and Finchflight, who are littermates. Sagewhisker is Blizzard's and Finch's aunt, whose littermate is one of their parents. oooh these r so different from mine! interesting. i prefer amberleaf x archeye as the parents of ashheart, frogtail, and newtspeck just bc amberleaf has the genes to make newtspeck. and we share amber and bracken being siblings, but i dont see mudclaw as the same age as them. i always saw him older, which is why i usually make ShC Mudclaw the brother of Cedarstar instead i make toadskip, deerleap, and featherstorm siblings just bc of the colors (both toad and deer share the white leg thing) here, i drew them as siblings recently! Oh I like these! To be honest when I make headcanons I just go "Oh well this character is a dark brown tabby. This character is also a brown tabby so they're going to be related now" and not pay much attention to genetics (mostly because this series already disregards that lmao) but I really like how you've thought this out. Part of the problem is for those generations of cats we don't get explicit mentions as their ages? I always saw Mudclaw as Brackenfoot's age or around that because he became mates with Lizardstripe years later. I do like Mudclaw as Cedarstar's brother though! I also didn't even realize that Deerleap and Toadskip shared the white legs, so I might just be incorporate that into my headcanons now. I do like Lizardfang as the father to Lizardstripe and Toadskip. They've all got some form of brown and I sort of like the name theming of Lizard/Lizard/Toad. It's a shame we don't see more family relations for this era of books because I really find it fascinating.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jun 26, 2022 0:57:45 GMT -5
oooh these r so different from mine! interesting. i prefer amberleaf x archeye as the parents of ashheart, frogtail, and newtspeck just bc amberleaf has the genes to make newtspeck. and we share amber and bracken being siblings, but i dont see mudclaw as the same age as them. i always saw him older, which is why i usually make ShC Mudclaw the brother of Cedarstar instead i make toadskip, deerleap, and featherstorm siblings just bc of the colors (both toad and deer share the white leg thing) here, i drew them as siblings recently! Oh I like these! To be honest when I make headcanons I just go "Oh well this character is a dark brown tabby. This character is also a brown tabby so they're going to be related now" and not pay much attention to genetics (mostly because this series already disregards that lmao) but I really like how you've thought this out. Part of the problem is for those generations of cats we don't get explicit mentions as their ages? I always saw Mudclaw as Brackenfoot's age or around that because he became mates with Lizardstripe years later. I do like Mudclaw as Cedarstar's brother though! I also didn't even realize that Deerleap and Toadskip shared the white legs, so I might just be incorporate that into my headcanons now. I do like Lizardfang as the father to Lizardstripe and Toadskip. They've all got some form of brown and I sort of like the name theming of Lizard/Lizard/Toad. It's a shame we don't see more family relations for this era of books because I really find it fascinating. me too. i was hoping to find some of those yellowfang SE cats in the nightpelt manga but i dont know if they were dead by then or not....i really like amberleaf and crowtail, etc. for no real reason other than i see them a lot whenever i make headcanon family trees.
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Post by *Faith* on Jun 26, 2022 18:03:41 GMT -5
I was hoping Exile from ShadowClan would confirm who the mother of Nightstar and Clawface was. Sadly not.
I've always seen Hollyflower and Crowtail as sisters.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jun 26, 2022 19:03:33 GMT -5
I was hoping Exile from ShadowClan would confirm who the mother of Nightstar and Clawface was. Sadly not. I've always seen Hollyflower and Crowtail as sisters. i've always seen poolcloud and hollyflower as sisters since they r both some level of gray with white.
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