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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jun 13, 2022 8:00:55 GMT -5
I got permission to repost this thread after the first one, which was originally posted on June 4th by me, got removed on June 7th due to the disrespectful behaviour by a now former forum user. If you want to know what happened feel free to DM me or Sand as there is no need to rehash the issue on here.
Please be respectful to each other on this thread and keep in mind that Bright Guardian Akira uses she/her pronouns when talking about BGA directly.
Personally, I headcanon Nightheart as trans and it's interesting to see this being done in both directions by other fans as well. There is the transfem (MtF) version which arguably seems the more popular option but I'm rather inclined to view Nightheart as tranmasc (FtM) simply because there is a higher chance for it to pass in the canon series while not really being the case, if that makes any sense. What I'm trying to say is: like Redtail and Rowanclaw who are usually headcanoned as transmasc by the fandom, so both of them getting born as she-cats but identifying as toms and referred to as toms as well, Nightheart having such a story would somewhat tie in with the source material and narrative. But of course, Nightheart as transfem is a valid headcanon to have too.
So anyways, here is a video by BGA (Bright Guardian Akira) who is transfem herself explaining her stance on the transfem Nightheart headcanon in particular and how she interpreted Nightheart's storyline thus far:
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2022 19:36:13 GMT -5
Yay we got the topic back
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Post by rabbit on Jun 13, 2022 20:29:52 GMT -5
They got banned? Gosh dang it. I actually looked forward to reading their posts, thought most them were creative and funny.
Whelp sorry for being off topic. I have nothing else to say.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jun 14, 2022 2:27:52 GMT -5
They got banned? Gosh dang it. I actually looked forward to reading their posts, thought most them were creative and funny. Whelp sorry for being off topic. I have nothing else to say. They got banned for a good reason. That is all I'm going to say on this matter here since I already pointed out to not rehash it and instead DM me or Sand in case anyone has further questions about it. If you liked their posts, the account is still up for your entertainment (but with no trace of what transpired on the original Trans Nightheart thread).
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Post by rabbit on Jun 14, 2022 4:13:02 GMT -5
They got banned? Gosh dang it. I actually looked forward to reading their posts, thought most them were creative and funny. Whelp sorry for being off topic. I have nothing else to say. They got banned for a good reason. That is all I'm going to say on this matter here since I already pointed out to not rehash it and instead DM me or Sand in case anyone has further questions about it. If you liked their posts, the account is still up for your entertainment (but with no trace of what transpired on the original Trans Nightheart thread). yep, lmao. I’ll be browsing their posts that haven’t been destroyed in grief. /jk Honestly I haven’t cared why various people get banned on these forums a while back, I just said it publicly in case they were ever sulking around. They’ll know someone appreciated their sass.
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Post by ivysaur on Jun 14, 2022 8:03:16 GMT -5
I have a genuine question about trans Nightheart that I haven't gotten the chance to ask. I'm cis and I've never explored gender much in fiction so I've never had any trans headcanons and this may sound a little ignorant. This is specifically for headcanons where characters use different pronouns than what they use in the books. Does it not bother you that the books will never be written in a way that aligns with your headcanon? I understand that headcanons are just headcanons and all but transfem Nightheart is adding a huge layer to that arc. I assume its easier to get immersed in headcanons that use the same pronouns, like trans Redtail or trans Rowanclaw, but Nightheart is a main character who will most likely never have the same editing mistake that started trans Rowanclaw or realism issues like trans Redtail.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jun 14, 2022 8:18:46 GMT -5
They got banned for a good reason. That is all I'm going to say on this matter here since I already pointed out to not rehash it and instead DM me or Sand in case anyone has further questions about it. If you liked their posts, the account is still up for your entertainment (but with no trace of what transpired on the original Trans Nightheart thread). yep, lmao. I’ll be browsing their posts that haven’t been destroyed in grief. /jk Honestly I haven’t cared why various people get banned on these forums a while back, I just said it publicly in case they were ever sulking around. They’ll know someone appreciated their sass. You do you. I thought their posts were funny sometimes at first as well until they started becoming more passive aggressive in nature or even downright condescending in certain instances. Some of which is still up and you can view in their posts too. To me there is just a huge difference between sass and outright disrespect or disregard for the opinions of others.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jun 14, 2022 8:27:38 GMT -5
I have a genuine question about trans Nightheart that I haven't gotten the chance to ask. I'm cis and I've never explored gender much in fiction so I've never had any trans headcanons and this may sound a little ignorant. This is specifically for headcanons where characters use different pronouns than what they use in the books. Does it not bother you that the books will never be written in a way that aligns with your headcanon? I understand that headcanons are just headcanons and all but transfem Nightheart is adding a huge layer to that arc. I assume its easier to get immersed in headcanons that use the same pronouns, like trans Redtail or trans Rowanclaw, but Nightheart is a main character who will most likely never have the same editing mistake that started trans Rowanclaw or realism issues like trans Redtail. I personally headcanon Nightheart as transmasc and thus this question does not apply to me directly so I'm sure someone who headcanons Nightheart as transfem instead will answer it for you on here better than I could. My own reasoning for transmasc Nightheart is explained above and was also previously used by mentioning transmasc Redtail and Rowanclaw as examples of it on the original Trans Nightheart thread in a seperate comment on there. Most, if not all people, headcanoning Nightheart as trans know that his canon story is about issues he has with his family legacy and being compared to Firestar specifically, wether it will all end up just being mostly in his head or not. A lot of people who headcanon Nightheart as transfem specifically see themselves in this character and are transfem as well while applying their own experiences to Nightheart's story happening so far during ASC.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2022 10:20:02 GMT -5
I have a genuine question about trans Nightheart that I haven't gotten the chance to ask. I'm cis and I've never explored gender much in fiction so I've never had any trans headcanons and this may sound a little ignorant. This is specifically for headcanons where characters use different pronouns than what they use in the books. Does it not bother you that the books will never be written in a way that aligns with your headcanon? I understand that headcanons are just headcanons and all but transfem Nightheart is adding a huge layer to that arc. I assume its easier to get immersed in headcanons that use the same pronouns, like trans Redtail or trans Rowanclaw, but Nightheart is a main character who will most likely never have the same editing mistake that started trans Rowanclaw or realism issues like trans Redtail. I suppose it does bother me, but I'm still going to headcanon her as transfem because it's one of my favourite headcanons. I try to make the most out of the headcanon by: 1. Replacing he/him with she/her (when referring to Nightheart) when I read the books 2. Referring to her as female in conversations about her 3. Referring to her as female in my AU
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Post by Flamefrost on Jun 15, 2022 10:39:50 GMT -5
I have a genuine question about trans Nightheart that I haven't gotten the chance to ask. I'm cis and I've never explored gender much in fiction so I've never had any trans headcanons and this may sound a little ignorant. This is specifically for headcanons where characters use different pronouns than what they use in the books. Does it not bother you that the books will never be written in a way that aligns with your headcanon? I understand that headcanons are just headcanons and all but transfem Nightheart is adding a huge layer to that arc. I assume its easier to get immersed in headcanons that use the same pronouns, like trans Redtail or trans Rowanclaw, but Nightheart is a main character who will most likely never have the same editing mistake that started trans Rowanclaw or realism issues like trans Redtail. Yes this is why I prefer transmasc Nightheart, just so there isn't constant misgendering in the material. And as I said in the previous thread, I find it wholesomely funny the idea that no one has an issue with Nightheart being trans, but has every issue not calling him Flamepaw or seeing him as Firestar's descendant.
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Jun 16, 2022 5:41:52 GMT -5
let's start calling nightheart by she/her pronouns and calling them trans just to confuse the publishers and have them wondering if they misread
edit: watching the video rn. nightheart is so cool i love you nightheart
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jun 16, 2022 14:34:06 GMT -5
let's start calling nightheart by she/her pronouns and calling them trans just to confuse the publishers and have them wondering if they misread edit: watching the video rn. nightheart is so cool i love you nightheart Go right ahead if you want! Although I headcanon Nightheart as transmasc instead of transfem because it can be similar to how Redtail and Rowanclaw are headcanoned as such while he will thus not be constantly misgendered by the canon narrative in the books.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2022 16:46:10 GMT -5
Bump because I love this headcanon sm
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Post by cable on Jun 28, 2022 19:28:24 GMT -5
just came back to the forums for a long break and i have no idea what drama went down. kinda disappointed i missed it? if somebody could dm me context
anyways this is a pretty nice headcanon. im always in transfem headcanons and nightheart does feel a bit relatable as a trans person
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