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Post by Flame13 on Mar 17, 2022 15:06:58 GMT -5
Do you think the original five leaders have any living descendants?
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Post by Snowfire on Mar 17, 2022 15:17:39 GMT -5
I think Skystar has some descendants living in Tigerkin and Firekin if Redtail, Spottedleaf's brother, is Sandstorm's father. Since Firestar saw Cloudstar's kits who both looked similar to Tigerstar and Spottedleaf, I would see this as a possibility.
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Post by *Faith* on Mar 17, 2022 15:38:31 GMT -5
Yes, Windstar. Ashfoot and Crowfeather were originally said to be her descendants in Secrets of the Clans. Weather this is still canon or not, I'm not sure. Though the family tree has her linked to Mistmouse instead. Mistmouse has three kits: Stagleap, Doespring and Ryestalk. Vicky once said that Stagleap was the father of Ashfoot, Morningflower and Onestar. Also, Ryestalk is the mother of Mudclaw and Tornear.
I always headcanoned Cloudstar as a descendant of Skystar. Shadowstar's Life semi confirmed this by stating that Cloud and Sky have the same shade gray pelt. Cloudstar has kin in both TC and ShC.
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Post by Hollyfall on Mar 17, 2022 16:30:33 GMT -5
Shadowstar didn't have kits and neither did Sun Shadow, so that line ended unfortunately.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Mar 17, 2022 16:32:39 GMT -5
Skystar through Cloudstar has decendants in modern ThunderClan and ShadowClan since Cloudstar's kits Gorseclaw and Spottedpelt were confirmed to have stayed behind with their mother Birdflight in ancient ThunderClan when ancient SkyClan went away. Tigerstar I and Spottedleaf were both compared to these two cats in terms of appearance so it's very likely that they are distantly related to each other. Which means that Skystar's legacy still lives on strongly today with Bramblestar's, Tawnypelt's and even Sorreltail's (since her mother Willowpelt was Spottedleaf's sister) families and their descendants.
Windstar through Mistmouse who is the alleged grandmother of Ashfoot and thus related to Crowfeather (Ashfoot's son) and his descendants in WindClan. The only question is if this information is still regarded as canon or old news these days ever since it was confirmed in SotC.
Thunderstar is not confirmed to be connected to any modern ThunderClan cats but was headcannoned by quite a few fans to be related to Firestar somehow. This was stated to not be the case by the writing team though. The source for this information is no longer available on the Warrior Cats Wiki as of now so who knows what is true these days.
Both Shadowstar and Riverstar are not named in any connection to modern Clan cats and since Shadowstar died without having kits and her nephew Sun Shadow died shortly before her as well seemingly without having chosen a mate or fathering kits, it is highly unlikely that anyone from ShadowClan or any other Clan is her descendant.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Mar 17, 2022 17:15:55 GMT -5
As everyone else has already said, Skystar has descendants in ThunderClan an SkyClan.
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Post by Flame13 on Mar 17, 2022 17:57:54 GMT -5
Any headcanons on who skystar’s descendants are in sky clan
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Mar 17, 2022 19:28:56 GMT -5
Windstar also definitely has descendants given Moth Flight's kits were sent into all clans
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Mar 17, 2022 19:50:46 GMT -5
every cat related to tigerstar 1 and spottedleaf r skystar's descendants every cat related to crowfeather and ashfoot r windstar's descendants
i think the other clans r a total guess.
edit: someone else commented it, but i forgot that shadowstar never had kits, and riverstar is yet to be mentioned has having a mate or kits yet (i hope we find out soon!)
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Mar 18, 2022 10:09:15 GMT -5
I headcanon that Sun Shadow had a fling that resulted in kits. I would presume Riverstar also would have a litter or two. I just want descendants of the originals somehow existing today. I like the idea of Dustpelt or Sandstorm being descended from Thunderstar.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Mar 18, 2022 11:18:23 GMT -5
Thunderstar is not confirmed to be connected to any modern ThunderClan cats but was headcannoned by quite a few fans to be related to Firestar somehow. This was stated to not be the case by the writing team though. The source for this information is no longer available on the Warrior Cats Wiki as of now so who knows what is true these days. Semi-related, but I have a headcanon that Jake was descended from clan cats, whether from a clan cat that fathered a kittypet's litter or who defected to live as a kittypet. Sorta like what happened with some of SkyClan's middle generations.
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Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on Mar 18, 2022 14:12:35 GMT -5
My guess would be Windstar has the most modern descendants, considering we know for sure that Ashfoot and Crowfeather are her descendants. We also know that Moth Flight's kits were spread among the Clans, so it's likely that Windstar has descendants in every Clan (we know that Blue Whisker had kits, obviously we don't know anything after that though. At the very least, though, it's likely Windstar has descendants in ThunderClan).
We can also say with almost certainty that Cloudstar is a descendant of Skystar, considering it's mentioned in Shadowstar's Life that Shadowstar would've guessed they were kin when she saw Cloudstar. We know that Tigerstar and Spottedleaf are distantly descended from Cloudstar's kits, so we can say that Skystar definitely has descendants in ThunderClan (and that's not even counting any descendants he might have through Thunder's kits). So basically, all Tigerkin are descended from Skystar (Bramblestar, Tigerheartstar, Tawnypelt, Mothwing, Alderheart, Sparkpelt, Flamepaw, Finchpaw, Shadowsight, Lightleap, and Pouncestep are all currently living descendants of Skystar - so there is SkyClan blood in ThunderClan, ShadowClan, and RiverClan).
Thunderstar almost definitely also has descendants in ThunderClan, considering we know he had at least one litter of kits. But none of his descendants have been confirmed.
Shadowstar's line (in the Clans, at least) died out when she died, considering she and Sun Shadow died without ever having kits, and Moon Shadow's kits (aside from Sun Shadow) remained in the mountains.
My hope is that we have descendants from Riverstar, but as of now there's no evidence that he ever fathered kits.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Mar 18, 2022 15:12:45 GMT -5
Thunderstar is not confirmed to be connected to any modern ThunderClan cats but was headcannoned by quite a few fans to be related to Firestar somehow. This was stated to not be the case by the writing team though. The source for this information is no longer available on the Warrior Cats Wiki as of now so who knows what is true these days. Semi-related, but I have a headcanon that Jake was descended from clan cats, whether from a clan cat that fathered a kittypet's litter or who defected to live as a kittypet. Sorta like what happened with some of SkyClan's middle generations. I have an AU and sort of headcanon that Jake's father was Cedarstar (despite the timeline probably not matching up but oh well). It has kind of stuck with me ever since rejoining the fandom. I'm aware that this defeats the whole thing in Firestar's SE where Cloudstar (Or was it Skystar?) chose Firestar to go on the quest to rebuild SkyClan because he was seemingly not related to any of the other Clans who had betrayed SkyClan by not helping them but hey.
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