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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jan 24, 2022 22:15:20 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on her and how has LH affected your opinion on her, if at all?
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Post by thewinterblaze on Jan 24, 2022 22:25:39 GMT -5
She's okay, not my favorite leader by any means but better than cats like Bramblestar or Tiggerstar, but I remember being pissed at her in The Fourth Apprentice during the whole drought fiasco.
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Post by cable on Jan 24, 2022 22:27:44 GMT -5
always one of my least fave cats, and LH made me dislike her more. the attempts to excuse her parts in tigerstars regime were so bizarre, its hard to explain (side note, why the hell would scourge care about a cat being half-clan? he wouldnt even know what that means or have the cultural context to understand that its commonly made fun of. i hated that scene with him). it also whitewashes a major part in TDH by making her immediately willing to fight scourge, where as in TDH she was ready to flee the problem she helped create. and her narration during stonefurs death made me want to grab her by the ankles and swing her into a wall.
and so, so much just felt like self pity. she got so many people she cared about killed with her reckless, near-bloodthirsty behavior and then blamed literally everybody but herself, all while moping about it but never learning from it. sunfish, whiteclaw, and whitefangs deaths can be pinned on her choices to pick stupid fights. at least blackstar admitted he messed up and tried to do better in the future, but leopardstar never learned a damn thing and continued to just be horrible and pick fights all the way to her death in oots.
i understand shes realistic as a character, but i just cant like her, shes too annoying to me.
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Jan 25, 2022 2:13:30 GMT -5
I really love her. I never liked her, but LH did so many good things for her character that I just can't help but love her. She is a terrible person, but an amazing character.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Jan 25, 2022 6:05:51 GMT -5
I love how she's written as a character, but I'm neutral on her otherwise. I like her much better as Leopardfur than Leopardstar.
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Post by vectoring34 on Jan 25, 2022 8:21:11 GMT -5
always one of my least fave cats, and LH made me dislike her more. the attempts to excuse her parts in tigerstars regime were so bizarre, its hard to explain (side note, why the hell would scourge care about a cat being half-clan? he wouldnt even know what that means or have the cultural context to understand that its commonly made fun of. i hated that scene with him). it also whitewashes a major part in TDH by making her immediately willing to fight scourge, where as in TDH she was ready to flee the problem she helped create. and her narration during stonefurs death made me want to grab her by the ankles and swing her into a wall. and so, so much just felt like self pity. she got so many people she cared about killed with her reckless, near-bloodthirsty behavior and then blamed literally everybody but herself, all while moping about it but never learning from it. sunfish, whiteclaw, and whitefangs deaths can be pinned on her choices to pick stupid fights. at least blackstar admitted he messed up and tried to do better in the future, but leopardstar never learned a damn thing and continued to just be horrible and pick fights all the way to her death in oots. i understand shes realistic as a character, but i just cant like her, shes too annoying to me. Agreed. The whitewashing bit in TDH was really egregious. That said, I will say, I think it's kind of morbidly funny in a way that the thing she is destined to save Riverclan from is herself. Very good dark comedy right there, when she fulfills the conditions for her own prophecy by being so awful that Riverclan needs to be saved in the first place.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jan 25, 2022 10:04:56 GMT -5
She was fascinating to read about. I thought her SE did a great job of painting her as a complex and morally gray character motivated by a good will, without per se excusing her actions -- just bringing to light what shaped her personality.
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Bisexual
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BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ
Villain Enjoyer
Finally reading Wind!
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jan 25, 2022 12:08:28 GMT -5
I disliked Leopardstar before and even only reading the spoiler thread about LH on here made me do so further. But still cannot wait to actually read her SE for myself when the paperback version (with hopefully corrected allegiances and other continuity mistakes) gets released this year. Although this book might end up getting repeatedly thrown at various walls.
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Asexual
#07B04C
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Ṣanɗypaw™
The Shiny User
🎵Guess that's just the way it goes, easy come, easy go🎵
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Jan 25, 2022 17:17:07 GMT -5
Leopardstar's SE was really interesting and fun to read but I still don't like her character.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Jan 25, 2022 20:22:09 GMT -5
I hate her nearly on the level I hate Needletail
And the book made it worse. It really highlights how morally corrupt and easily swayed she was
And even if she feels remorse...I feel like she never has to really face it? It takes MONTHS for her to even apologize to Feathertail - despite almost having her KILLED. And then she bullies Stormfur out of Riverclan when he comes back. I think she's a bad leader and too prideful to really admit her wrongs until she's dying.
She's an interesting character and consistent, but I don't like her
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Jan 25, 2022 20:26:11 GMT -5
always one of my least fave cats, and LH made me dislike her more. the attempts to excuse her parts in tigerstars regime were so bizarre, its hard to explain (side note, why the hell would scourge care about a cat being half-clan? he wouldnt even know what that means or have the cultural context to understand that its commonly made fun of. i hated that scene with him). it also whitewashes a major part in TDH by making her immediately willing to fight scourge, where as in TDH she was ready to flee the problem she helped create. and her narration during stonefurs death made me want to grab her by the ankles and swing her into a wall. and so, so much just felt like self pity. she got so many people she cared about killed with her reckless, near-bloodthirsty behavior and then blamed literally everybody but herself, all while moping about it but never learning from it. sunfish, whiteclaw, and whitefangs deaths can be pinned on her choices to pick stupid fights. at least blackstar admitted he messed up and tried to do better in the future, but leopardstar never learned a damn thing and continued to just be horrible and pick fights all the way to her death in oots. i understand shes realistic as a character, but i just cant like her, shes too annoying to me. This perfectly highlights why I find it easier to forgive Blackstar. Blackstar is never really painted as a victim, but he is shown as a perpetrator and has to face his victims and do better ...Leopardstar is only held accountable by Feathertail and her dad (who at least calls out her BS through the entire book. So much so that she essentially EXILES her own dad). She makes me so mad
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