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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Jan 2, 2022 13:57:33 GMT -5
I really liked Juniperclaw in A Light in the Mist. When he's told that he'd never be able to make it to StarClan, he wasn't even mad or tried to argue with the StarClan warriors. Juniperclaw's conversation with Shadowsight was also very sweet, and it was nice to see him put some faith back into Shadowsight. I think he has changed, and he clearly feels sorry for how he treated SkyClan, so I think he does deserve StarClan now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 15:50:10 GMT -5
The problem is more that the whole system for condemning cats to the Dark Forest is inconsistently applied. There is no real clear explanation as what makes a cat worthy of damnation.
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Post by thewinterblaze on Jan 2, 2022 17:52:51 GMT -5
Yes. He sacrificed his life to save Shadowsight, showed genuine remorse for his actions, and overall, I think he's changed. And I really don't want to pull out the ol' Ashfur card, but when a rotten dungface like him can get into StarClan, I'd say Juniperclaw can as well.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Jan 2, 2022 18:15:23 GMT -5
Yes. He sacrificed his life to save Shadowsight, showed genuine remorse for his actions, and overall, I think he's changed. And I really don't want to pull out the ol' Ashfur card, but when a rotten dungface like him can get into StarClan, I'd say Juniperclaw can as well. I don't think Ashfur and Juniperclaw are comparable though. Ashfur got into StarClan on totally BS reasoning made by a single cat.
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Post by Cloudstorm on Jan 2, 2022 18:49:01 GMT -5
Yes. He sacrificed his life to save Shadowsight, showed genuine remorse for his actions, and overall, I think he's changed. And I really don't want to pull out the ol' Ashfur card, but when a rotten dungface like him can get into StarClan, I'd say Juniperclaw can as well. I don't think Ashfur and Juniperclaw are comparable though. Ashfur got into StarClan on totally BS reasoning made by a single cat. not starting a debate on whether or not Ashfur was “deserving” of Starclan since those debates go nowhere. Just feel it’s worth noting that Ashfur was admitted into a Starclan before the whole trial system came into play, and that how it was determined was far more ambiguous at the time.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jan 6, 2022 13:55:44 GMT -5
I still think Juniperclaw deserves some type of limbo instead of StarClan or the Dark Forest. He certainly has changed but not yet had the initiative or even opportunity to apologize to the entire Clan and individual cats that could have all died if his poisonous plot had not been disovered and stopped before things would have turned truly tragic for SkyClan. He probably should be in StarClan if his last words to Violetshine had been: "Tell SkyClan I'm sorry." instead of just: "Tell Tigerstar I'm sorry."
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Post by Chicken on Jan 7, 2022 12:50:37 GMT -5
I'm with the people saying that he shouldn't be in The Dark Forest in the first place Yes, he did something extremely bad, but in his mind, it was for a very good reason, and I know it doesn't make it any less bad, but there should just be a bit more understanding for stressful situations and remembering that not everyone will react the same way.
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