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Post by σττεrsσηg on Aug 27, 2016 20:31:46 GMT -5
Seriously, what is up with ThunderClan being associated with a 'loyal' trait? Darkstripe, Tigerstar, Ashfur, and Thistleclaw didn't seem very loyal.
Neither did the forbidden relationships, Leafpool, Dovewing, and Bluestar. (Including Mapleshade)
As well as Brambleclaw. He trained with Tigerstar and almost let Hawkfrost kill Firestar.
I think SkyClan should deserve the true 'loyal' title. They were pretty much the only clan without any villains (Except Clear Sky).
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Post by Wicked Witch on Aug 27, 2016 21:19:16 GMT -5
lack of villains doesn't prove loyalty of a Clan. neither does cats that "have a paw in each world" (mostly aimed at snookthorn.)
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Post by σττεrsσηg on Aug 28, 2016 12:06:06 GMT -5
True, I was mostly thinking of ancient SkyClan for the loyalty aspect, but I always think of villains as disloyal.
Which, I guess isn't mostly true, but characters like Brokenstar, Breezepelt, and Hawkfrost weren't very loyal.
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Post by Πιghtωιηg on Aug 28, 2016 12:16:51 GMT -5
Because ThunderClan is the main PoV clan. Which means we are all biased.
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Post by σττεrsσηg on Aug 28, 2016 20:01:55 GMT -5
No kidding.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Aug 28, 2016 21:46:09 GMT -5
But with the forbidden mates thing, it takes two to tango.
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Post by Πιghtωιηg on Aug 29, 2016 6:47:19 GMT -5
um... no, that's not quite it?
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Post by smilii on Aug 29, 2016 12:03:38 GMT -5
I forgot about SkyClan! Their 'daylight warriors', whilst a practical solution for them, obviously aren't as loyal ('a paw in two worlds' anyone?). In the end this turned out to be a big flaw of theirs, as in the AVOS arc they get chased out of their territory by rogues who attacked at night, when the kittypets were at home. I do hope to see more of SkyClan though
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2016 18:56:03 GMT -5
Thunderclan is just plain boring now. Can Riverclan get some more action like the old series ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 16:25:01 GMT -5
❈ -- Wasn't WindClan the swift and loyal?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2016 19:19:20 GMT -5
❈ -- Wasn't WindClan the swift and loyal? Yes.Thunderclan cats are the feirce and brave
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Post by Stoneflower on Dec 11, 2016 21:29:14 GMT -5
Shadowclan strikes me more as the ones who should be associated with loyalty.
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Post by Owlmoon on Dec 13, 2016 8:49:29 GMT -5
Maybe, but I did not really think there was a "loyal" thing. Almost every cat was loyal to their own Clan.
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Post by ≈ rippleheart ≈ on Dec 26, 2016 18:17:11 GMT -5
The most loyal Clan is obviously StarClan, what are you guys on about?
From what I've seen, WindClan might actually be the most "loyal" Clan in the books (which makes being the "Swift and Loyal" very fitting after all). There's very little conventional betrayal or FBL for WindClan - in fact, I can only really think of 3 cats off the top of my head who have ever wavered in the loyalty to their Clan exclusively. Those would be Tallstar (if you count the little "romantic outing" with Jake; otherwise, he wouldn't even qualify), Crowfeather (because of Feathertail, Leafpool, etc.) and Breezepelt (because of the Dark Forest connections). Pretty much every one else in the Clan was super loyal, even down to supporting the Warrior Code over their own leader's decisions (because they thought it was a conspiracy about ThunderClan gaining "favor" over WindClan, naturally). I'd say a Clan that starts a virtual civil war over the loyalty of their own deputy and leader are pretty darn loyal to the Code and the Clan itself.
Forgive me if I've missed some cats, since I haven't really read Tallstar's Revenge yet, but that's what I noticed.
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Post by brindlewing on Dec 26, 2016 20:00:51 GMT -5
The most loyal Clan is obviously StarClan, what are you guys on about?
From what I've seen, WindClan might actually be the most "loyal" Clan in the books (which makes being the "Swift and Loyal" very fitting after all). There's very little conventional betrayal or FBL for WindClan - in fact, I can only really think of 3 cats off the top of my head who have ever wavered in the loyalty to their Clan exclusively. Those would be Tallstar (if you count the little "romantic outing" with Jake; otherwise, he wouldn't even qualify), Crowfeather (because of Feathertail, Leafpool, etc.) and Breezepelt (because of the Dark Forest connections). Pretty much every one else in the Clan was super loyal, even down to supporting the Warrior Code over their own leader's decisions (because they thought it was a conspiracy about ThunderClan gaining "favor" over WindClan, naturally). I'd say a Clan that starts a virtual civil war over the loyalty of their own deputy and leader are pretty darn loyal to the Code and the Clan itself. Forgive me if I've missed some cats, since I haven't really read Tallstar's Revenge yet, but that's what I noticed. what about reedfeather and fallowtail (riverclan) that was in TR and CP. Willowbreeze and Graypool were the result of ReedXfallow
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Post by ≈ rippleheart ≈ on Dec 26, 2016 20:19:01 GMT -5
what about reedfeather and fallowtail (riverclan) that was in TR and CP. Willowbreeze and Graypool were the result of ReedXfallow As I said, I haven't read Tallstar's Revenge yet, but that's definitely a pair to consider.
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