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Post by fire on Oct 14, 2020 20:13:11 GMT -5
Just finished reading this, so any thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 20:27:24 GMT -5
I love this book! It's my favorite novella. Tigerclaw's POV was hilarious. Flintfang was a delight, as was Deerfoot, in fact, Deerfoot in Tigerclaw's Fury, was the reason I even read Yellowfang's Secret (my third favorite SE) I wasn't even planning on reading it, because I don't really care about Yellowfang, but then Deerfoot happened in Tigerclaw's Fury, and I knew he'd appear in Yellowfang's Secret, and the rest is history. I know there are some inconsistences, like Russetfur's ever-changing age, and Clawface coming back to life (which, I didn't mind, because I had forgotten/didn't notice, he died before The Darkest Hour) however, I can understand why other people wouldn't like it. All in all, it may not have been the best written novella, or about the best character, but Tigerclaw's POV and Deerfoot made it my favorite.
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Post by metsfan09 on Oct 14, 2020 20:28:48 GMT -5
I always loved it simply because of Tigerclaw’s point of view and his sudden rise to power in ShadowClan. The only thing I dislike is the continuity errors.
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Post by fire on Oct 14, 2020 20:40:41 GMT -5
I love this book! It's my favorite novella. Tigerclaw's POV was hilarious. Flintfang was a delight, as was Deerfoot, in fact, Deerfoot in Tigerclaw's Fury, was the reason I even read Yellowfang's Secret (my third favorite SE) I wasn't even planning on reading it, because I don't really care about Yellowfang, but then Deerfoot happened in Tigerclaw's Fury, and I knew he'd appear in Yellowfang's Secret, and the rest is history. I know there are some inconsistences, like Russetfur's ever-changing age, and Clawface coming back to life (which, I didn't mind, because I had forgotten/didn't notice, he died before The Darkest Hour) however, I can understand why other people wouldn't like it. All in all, it may not have been the best written novella, or about the best character, but Tigerclaw's POV and Deerfoot made it my favorite. Yeah it was pretty decent. To me, I wish Clawface wasn't such an evil cat because the way he was portrayed in Tigerclaw's Fury kinda made him seem like a decent guy. That might've just been the Rowanberry and Clawface stuff but still
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 20:43:07 GMT -5
I love this book! It's my favorite novella. Tigerclaw's POV was hilarious. Flintfang was a delight, as was Deerfoot, in fact, Deerfoot in Tigerclaw's Fury, was the reason I even read Yellowfang's Secret (my third favorite SE) I wasn't even planning on reading it, because I don't really care about Yellowfang, but then Deerfoot happened in Tigerclaw's Fury, and I knew he'd appear in Yellowfang's Secret, and the rest is history. I know there are some inconsistences, like Russetfur's ever-changing age, and Clawface coming back to life (which, I didn't mind, because I had forgotten/didn't notice, he died before The Darkest Hour) however, I can understand why other people wouldn't like it. All in all, it may not have been the best written novella, or about the best character, but Tigerclaw's POV and Deerfoot made it my favorite. Yeah it was pretty decent. To me, I wish Clawface wasn't such an evil cat because the way he was portrayed in Tigerclaw's Fury kinda made him seem like a decent guy. That might've just been the Rowanberry and Clawface stuff but still It makes me wonder what kind of cat Clawface would have been, if he wasn't following the orders of Brokenstar and the like? In Yellowfang's Secret, he actually seems like a decent cat, he's really close to his brother Nightstar, and he also seems concerned about Mintkit and Marigoldkit when they go missing, and he's really helpful in finding them (at least, I think it was that situation, I remember in the book, he was very helpfulr about something)
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Post by fire on Oct 14, 2020 20:50:11 GMT -5
Yeah it was pretty decent. To me, I wish Clawface wasn't such an evil cat because the way he was portrayed in Tigerclaw's Fury kinda made him seem like a decent guy. That might've just been the Rowanberry and Clawface stuff but still It makes me wonder what kind of cat Clawface would have been, if he wasn't following the orders of Brokenstar and the like? In Yellowfang's Secret, he actually seems like a decent cat, he's really close to his brother Nightstar, and he also seems concerned about Mintkit and Marigoldkit when they go missing, and he's really helpful in finding them (at least, I think it was that situation, I remember in the book, he was very helpfulr about something) Yeah, just him murdering Spottedleaf and following Brokenstar without question really tarnishes his record. Him and Blackstar tbh, but I guess Blackstar turned into a reasonable dude
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Oct 14, 2020 20:53:10 GMT -5
It's an okay novella, except for the errors. Mapleshade didn't need a part in it.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Oct 14, 2020 21:01:44 GMT -5
It's one of my least favorites. The errors really bring it down for me, and Mapleshade being in it was completely unnecessary.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 21:01:57 GMT -5
I liked it but was I actually supposed to take it seriously? There are so many errors and Tigerclaw is a clown.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 21:11:40 GMT -5
It makes me wonder what kind of cat Clawface would have been, if he wasn't following the orders of Brokenstar and the like? In Yellowfang's Secret, he actually seems like a decent cat, he's really close to his brother Nightstar, and he also seems concerned about Mintkit and Marigoldkit when they go missing, and he's really helpful in finding them (at least, I think it was that situation, I remember in the book, he was very helpfulr about something) Yeah, just him murdering Spottedleaf and following Brokenstar without question really tarnishes his record. Him and Blackstar tbh, but I guess Blackstar turned into a reasonable dude True, I bet Clawface probably could have turned his life around if given the chance like Blackstar. He seems to be a good cat at heart, he was just following the wrong cats. Which, if you think about it, both he and Blackstar were raised in a society with overly aggressive and sometimes cruel leaders. That doesn't excuse their actions, but a cat raised in a clan with Cedarstar as leader, would probably turn out better than a cat raised in a clan with Hailstar as leader. Cedarstar, a cat who orchestrated seemingly needless attacks on WindClan, is by far the least worse of the leaders who Clawface and Blackstar grew up with, and that's saying something. I find it hard to judge ShadowClan cats on the same level as other cats, because of the circumstances surrounding their lives, namely these bloodthirsty leaders.
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Post by Lizard 🦎 on Oct 15, 2020 0:16:12 GMT -5
comedic legend
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Post by jayfeather1234 on Oct 15, 2020 6:46:30 GMT -5
It makes me wonder what kind of cat Clawface would have been, if he wasn't following the orders of Brokenstar and the like? In Yellowfang's Secret, he actually seems like a decent cat, he's really close to his brother Nightstar, and he also seems concerned about Mintkit and Marigoldkit when they go missing, and he's really helpful in finding them (at least, I think it was that situation, I remember in the book, he was very helpfulr about something) Yeah, just him murdering Spottedleaf and following Brokenstar without question really tarnishes his record. Him and Blackstar tbh, but I guess Blackstar turned into a reasonable dude The difference is that Blackstar had a long life to turn things around while Clawface died in the second book. In the first two books, both Clawface and Blackfoot were treated as pure villains. Clawface never had the time to turn things over when Graystripe snuffed his life out early. I personally believe that if he had lived, he would have been Blackstar’s first deputy rather than Russetfur.
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Post by sar8 on Oct 15, 2020 14:08:32 GMT -5
I liked it but was I actually supposed to take it seriously? There are so many errors and Tigerclaw is a clown. I created a thread on this book a few minutes ago, not realizing that this thread occurred yesterday. What are the errors in the novella, other than Clawface being alive? Everything else in Tigerstar's Fury seems consistent with the other books to me.
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Post by fire on Oct 15, 2020 14:57:32 GMT -5
Yeah, just him murdering Spottedleaf and following Brokenstar without question really tarnishes his record. Him and Blackstar tbh, but I guess Blackstar turned into a reasonable dude The difference is that Blackstar had a long life to turn things around while Clawface died in the second book. In the first two books, both Clawface and Blackfoot were treated as pure villains. Clawface never had the time to turn things over when Graystripe snuffed his life out early. I personally believe that if he had lived, he would have been Blackstar’s first deputy rather than Russetfur. I can see that, if Clawface had showed signs of a redemption. Or maybe even without it.
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Post by fire on Oct 15, 2020 14:58:45 GMT -5
Yeah, just him murdering Spottedleaf and following Brokenstar without question really tarnishes his record. Him and Blackstar tbh, but I guess Blackstar turned into a reasonable dude True, I bet Clawface probably could have turned his life around if given the chance like Blackstar. He seems to be a good cat at heart, he was just following the wrong cats. Which, if you think about it, both he and Blackstar were raised in a society with overly aggressive and sometimes cruel leaders. That doesn't excuse their actions, but a cat raised in a clan with Cedarstar as leader, would probably turn out better than a cat raised in a clan with Hailstar as leader. Cedarstar, a cat who orchestrated seemingly needless attacks on WindClan, is by far the least worse of the leaders who Clawface and Blackstar grew up with, and that's saying something. I find it hard to judge ShadowClan cats on the same level as other cats, because of the circumstances surrounding their lives, namely these bloodthirsty leaders. Hailstar? Did you mean someone else or... Also, yeah I mean the environment they grew up in definitely contributed to how they treat themselves and others, but they had a choice at one point.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 15:01:11 GMT -5
True, I bet Clawface probably could have turned his life around if given the chance like Blackstar. He seems to be a good cat at heart, he was just following the wrong cats. Which, if you think about it, both he and Blackstar were raised in a society with overly aggressive and sometimes cruel leaders. That doesn't excuse their actions, but a cat raised in a clan with Cedarstar as leader, would probably turn out better than a cat raised in a clan with Hailstar as leader. Cedarstar, a cat who orchestrated seemingly needless attacks on WindClan, is by far the least worse of the leaders who Clawface and Blackstar grew up with, and that's saying something. I find it hard to judge ShadowClan cats on the same level as other cats, because of the circumstances surrounding their lives, namely these bloodthirsty leaders. Hailstar? Did you mean someone else or... Also, yeah I mean the environment they grew up in definitely contributed to how they treat themselves and others, but they had a choice at one point. Oh, I just used Hailstar as an example, since he was a clan leader at the same time as Cedarstar. Yeah, true
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Post by fire on Oct 15, 2020 15:15:36 GMT -5
Hailstar? Did you mean someone else or... Also, yeah I mean the environment they grew up in definitely contributed to how they treat themselves and others, but they had a choice at one point. Oh, I just used Hailstar as an example, since he was a clan leader at the same time as Cedarstar. Yeah, true Oh ok. I thought hailstar was a pretty decent leader from what I saw, and cats growing up with him might've been as safe if not safer, than if they grew up with Cedarstar. Then again, you have to consider Sunningrocks, but he was willing to give that up for a while so that his Clanmates could survive. Compared to Cedarstar actually trying to start fights, I stick by what I said. Although overall I think Cedarstar was a pretty decent leader until he chose Raggedpelt to be his deputy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 15:21:02 GMT -5
Oh, I just used Hailstar as an example, since he was a clan leader at the same time as Cedarstar. Yeah, true Oh ok. I thought hailstar was a pretty decent leader from what I saw, and cats growing up with him might've been as safe if not safer, than if they grew up with Cedarstar. Then again, you have to consider Sunningrocks, but he was willing to give that up for a while so that his Clanmates could survive. Compared to Cedarstar actually trying to start fights, I stick by what I said. Although overall I think Cedarstar was a pretty decent leader until he chose Raggedpelt to be his deputy. I was comparing Cedarstar and Hailstar, because Hailstar was a really good leader compared to Cedarstar, so the warriors raised under his leadership, Crookedstar, Oakheart, etc, turned out much better than some of the cats raised during Cedarstar's time. Though, there can be some cats who turn out bad, that isn't the fault of the leader, like Tigerclaw being raised under Sunstar's leadership. I actually really like Cedarstar, but he was one of the more aggressive leaders
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Post by fire on Oct 15, 2020 15:43:54 GMT -5
Oh ok. I thought hailstar was a pretty decent leader from what I saw, and cats growing up with him might've been as safe if not safer, than if they grew up with Cedarstar. Then again, you have to consider Sunningrocks, but he was willing to give that up for a while so that his Clanmates could survive. Compared to Cedarstar actually trying to start fights, I stick by what I said. Although overall I think Cedarstar was a pretty decent leader until he chose Raggedpelt to be his deputy. I was comparing Cedarstar and Hailstar, because Hailstar was a really good leader compared to Cedarstar, so the warriors raised under his leadership, Crookedstar, Oakheart, etc, turned out much better than some of the cats raised during Cedarstar's time. Though, there can be some cats who turn out bad, that isn't the fault of the leader, like Tigerclaw being raised under Sunstar's leadership. I actually really like Cedarstar, but he was one of the more aggressive leaders Oh okay, I think you just mixed up who you meant to say then, because you actually said that you think that a cat raised in Cedarstar's Clan would be better off than a cat raised in Hailstar's.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 15:47:10 GMT -5
I was comparing Cedarstar and Hailstar, because Hailstar was a really good leader compared to Cedarstar, so the warriors raised under his leadership, Crookedstar, Oakheart, etc, turned out much better than some of the cats raised during Cedarstar's time. Though, there can be some cats who turn out bad, that isn't the fault of the leader, like Tigerclaw being raised under Sunstar's leadership. I actually really like Cedarstar, but he was one of the more aggressive leaders Oh okay, I think you just mixed up who you meant to say then, because you actually said that you think that a cat raised in Cedarstar's Clan would be better off than a cat raised in Hailstar's. Ohhh yes! Then I did mix something up lol, a clan raised in Hailstar's clan would probably turn out better than a cat raised in Cedstar's clan.
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Post by Cloverƒall on Oct 15, 2020 16:39:10 GMT -5
Tigerclaw has zero bias.
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Post by fire on Oct 15, 2020 19:29:33 GMT -5
Oh okay, I think you just mixed up who you meant to say then, because you actually said that you think that a cat raised in Cedarstar's Clan would be better off than a cat raised in Hailstar's. Ohhh yes! Then I did mix something up lol, a clan raised in Hailstar's clan would probably turn out better than a cat raised in Cedstar's clan. Aight gotchu
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Oct 15, 2020 20:44:46 GMT -5
Not a bad book!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2020 11:37:32 GMT -5
Best Novella
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Post by Ivyfalcon on Oct 16, 2020 12:34:32 GMT -5
I haven’t read it in a while, but I remember it being alright. Tigerclaw’s very dramatic in it, which was amusing. The errors are annoying though.
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Post by Brindlefern on Oct 16, 2020 15:02:01 GMT -5
Tigerstar's dramatic ass was the only good thing about it. Otherwise the Mapleshade invading again and the Clawface error really mess it and make it not as good an inbetween as it could've been. Even if the Clawface error had to stay (I hate and love it, hate because he should be dead, love because we get to see him be a normal cat with a family, but 99% of it either way is me hating the inconsistency), just removing Mapleshade and rewriting that whole thing to be Tigerstar's villanous thoughts would've been a tremendous improvement in of itself.
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Post by Fernshiine on Oct 16, 2020 19:05:23 GMT -5
Good but Clawface tho
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Post by Fernshiine on Oct 16, 2020 19:19:26 GMT -5
My child Whitethroat is as pure as ever and I love him He's one of my favorite ShadowClan cats! I love that he was so well-written, even in a book with tons of mistakes.
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