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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 8:00:26 GMT -5
(sorry idk how to put a spoiler warning on mobile)
Am I the only one that's kinda salty that Rowanclaw makes an appearance in the past and is still described as a tom... listen I don't NEED trans Rowanclaw to be canon but whyyyyy is he described as a she-cat in the past allegiances if not to make trans Rowan canon ?? So it really was just a mistake and NO ONE caught it? I can't stop thinking about this
PS don't come at me with any 'cats can't be trans' bs I don't care
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Aug 31, 2020 9:12:53 GMT -5
i mean. its a very publicly acknowledged mistake by both writers and editors, and was never purposefully done. if you want to headcanon trans rowan thats fine but it was never an intentional canon thing.
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Post by vectoring34 on Aug 31, 2020 9:42:43 GMT -5
You're complaining over an error in printing not being canon. If you like it better like that fine, but there should never have been any expectation of them making an error into a permanent fixture.
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Post by Brindlefern on Aug 31, 2020 9:44:03 GMT -5
Yeah it was literally a printing error, nothing more. Trans Rowan was never canon, it is a popular HC and nothing more and to expect such a HC to be canon you're only just setting youself up for disappointment, and judging by this thread, that exact instance has happened.
Hoo boy I can only imagine how Tumblr is gonna predictably react to it tho.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 9:57:49 GMT -5
Guess I'll go eat worms
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Post by highprince on Aug 31, 2020 11:19:37 GMT -5
There’s no way in hell that there would be a canon trans character if HarperCollins won’t let them add canon gay characters.
Plus, it’s a headcanon based on a publishing error that they’ve clearly made up for. Tbh, I always thought it was a crack headcanon because of that.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Aug 31, 2020 11:52:29 GMT -5
Like others have said, Rowanclaw being trans has never actually been canon and I'm honestly kinda curious why you seem to have thought that's what the writers were going for if I'm understanding this post correctly. In fact, literally the only reason he was made to be Tawnypelt's mate in the first place was because Vicky felt bad for forgetting his gender. He's also described as a tom in Tigerclaw's Fury, and I know that novella has plenty of mistakes anyway, but my point is that this isn't the first time he's been described as a tom while in the forest territories.
And to be honest, if writing about gay characters isn't allowed unless it's subtle, I doubt this series will ever include a trans character unless changes are made. It's fine to have it as a headcanon, though.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Aug 31, 2020 12:31:00 GMT -5
Yeah. As others have stated, Rowan was never trans
Also, how would he have biological kits with Tawnypelt if it WAS canon? I'm okay with the AU/Headcanon, and I'd be fine with a future cat in the books who was (though this will never happen). But, it doesn't work with Rowanstar
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Post by highprince on Aug 31, 2020 12:40:47 GMT -5
Also, how would he have biological kits with Tawnypelt if it WAS canon? I'm okay with the AU/Headcanon, and I'd be fine with a future cat in the books who was (though this will never happen). But, it doesn't work with Rowanstar I would guess the reasoning is that they’d gotten a surrogate to father the kits? But there’s still way more reason to believe that they are biologically Rowan’s kits, and surrogate dads haven’t ever been acknowledged in the series.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 15:49:05 GMT -5
Yeah the series is great for lots of printing errors in a lot of ways
Just enjoy your headcanon at least there's still that c:
Honestly I forgot people headcanoned him as trans tbh tho
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Post by Skypaw13 on Aug 31, 2020 17:57:09 GMT -5
Guys, I think bouncefeather's point is that Rowanclaw is described as a she-cat in the allegiances of Graystripe's Vow, which is some mad coincidence if it was truly a mistake.
Like, how do you **** that up a second time after you've gone through all that effort to correct it? If anything, Rowanclaw is the ONE character you should get right. I understand the saltiness, bounce.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 17:59:38 GMT -5
Guys, I think bouncefeather's point is that Rowanclaw is described as a she-cat in the allegiances of Graystripe's Vow, which is some mad coincidence if it was truly a mistake. Like, how do you **** that up a second time after you've gone through all that effort to correct it? If anything, Rowanclaw is the ONE character you should get right. I understand the saltiness, bounce. Ahhh okay I misunderstood my bad, idk how they did that again tho you have a point
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Aug 31, 2020 18:41:13 GMT -5
Guys, I think bouncefeather's point is that Rowanclaw is described as a she-cat in the allegiances of Graystripe's Vow, which is some mad coincidence if it was truly a mistake. Like, how do you **** that up a second time after you've gone through all that effort to correct it? If anything, Rowanclaw is the ONE character you should get right. I understand the saltiness, bounce. They probably copied his description from a contemporary work
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Post by highprince on Aug 31, 2020 18:48:24 GMT -5
Guys, I think bouncefeather's point is that Rowanclaw is described as a she-cat in the allegiances of Graystripe's Vow, which is some mad coincidence if it was truly a mistake. Like, how do you **** that up a second time after you've gone through all that effort to correct it? If anything, Rowanclaw is the ONE character you should get right. I understand the saltiness, bounce. I would imagine that the Allegiances from FQ were copy-pasted without double checking? Which is a dumb mistake, but honestly what I’d expect considering the warriors track record.
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Post by Brindlefern on Aug 31, 2020 21:01:48 GMT -5
Guys, I think bouncefeather's point is that Rowanclaw is described as a she-cat in the allegiances of Graystripe's Vow, which is some mad coincidence if it was truly a mistake. Like, how do you **** that up a second time after you've gone through all that effort to correct it? If anything, Rowanclaw is the ONE character you should get right. I understand the saltiness, bounce. We get that though, but that doesn't mean it still wasn't or can't be an error. Good chances are the editors didn't know wtf they were doing during the copy/paste bit with the allegiances.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 21:06:37 GMT -5
i just think its really funny how incompetent the editors are that they can't even get THIS right. he;s been a front and center character for forever now. its rly just like theyre not even trying. how did no body catch it?
but like i get it. yall are right and trans cat is a fever dream. okie
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