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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 19:18:35 GMT -5
This is from my version of The New Hope, which is the newer version, in the older versions, it had Blossomfall x Thornclaw, so why would they change Thornclaw to Mousewhisker, after they had already decided on Blossomfall x Thornclaw? It makes no sense to me. What plot-line could those three have been so important to, that it was a plot-line inconsistency to have Thornclaw there instead of Mousewhisker? I just don't get it.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jul 22, 2020 19:30:02 GMT -5
i checked my copy. i have the thornclaw version...
this is just so bizzare. of all the errors, they make reprints for THIS? really? that's just so lazy and a horrible mistake
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 19:32:34 GMT -5
i checked my copy. i have the thornclaw version... this is just so bizzare. of all the errors, they make reprints for THIS? really? that's just so lazy and a horrible mistake Right? And it makes absolutely NO sense! I'd understand if it was originally Mousewhisker and they changed it to Thornclaw, but they did the opposite.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jul 22, 2020 19:34:54 GMT -5
i checked my copy. i have the thornclaw version... this is just so bizzare. of all the errors, they make reprints for THIS? really? that's just so lazy and a horrible mistake Right? And it makes absolutely NO sense! I'd understand if it was originally Mousewhisker and they changed it to Thornclaw, but they did the opposite. wait, really!? i dont get it! ;;;
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jul 22, 2020 19:35:54 GMT -5
Depending on when the reprinted version came out, I think the intention was probably to have Mouse x Blossom be a thing, but then that obviously changed when SS came out and it just makes Blossomfall's relationship with Thornclaw come out of nowhere if you're just reading the reprinted version. It's just really unnecessary.
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Post by Uмвяᴀ on Jul 22, 2020 19:37:24 GMT -5
I think it's because we never saw Thornclaw as a DF trainee at that point while Mousewhisker was a known trainee.
Edit: I guess Mousewhisker was revailed as a trainee at the same time, whoops.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 19:38:45 GMT -5
Depending on when the reprinted version came out, I think the intention was probably to have Mouse x Blossom be a thing, but then that obviously changed when SS came out and it just makes Blossomfall's relationship with Thornclaw come out of nowhere if you're just reading the reprinted version. It's just really unnecessary. Oh, that makes sense, it's really disappointing that it wasn't Mousewhisker. I don't have any problems with Thornclaw x Blossomfall, but his siblings, Brackenfur and Brightheart, their bloodlines are going STRONG, then you have Daisy, whose only kit to have had kits is Berrynose, and Molewhisker and Cherryfall haven't had kits yet, and they are giving litters to younger cats like Sparkpelt and Sorrelstripe. I'm just losing hope in Daisy's bloodline living on.
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Post by Oceanmist97 on Jul 22, 2020 19:38:46 GMT -5
Yeah, this might be the most baffling thing I've read in a while lmao.
Why would they change it? Why... Of ALL things to fix in the books, of all things to fix in The Last Hope alone, they fixed this?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 19:39:48 GMT -5
I think it's because we never saw Thornclaw as a DF trainee at that point while Mousewhisker was a known trainee. That makes sense, but in one of my books, someone addresses Thornclaw by name while they're training, showing that he's there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 19:40:09 GMT -5
Yeah, this might be the most baffling thing I've read in a while lmao. Why would they change it? Why... Of ALL things to fix in the books, of all things to fix in The Last Hope alone, they fixed this? Yeah, same!
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Post by Uмвяᴀ on Jul 22, 2020 19:54:01 GMT -5
I think it's because we never saw Thornclaw as a DF trainee at that point while Mousewhisker was a known trainee. That makes sense, but in one of my books, someone addresses Thornclaw by name while they're training, showing that he's there. This could just be my faulty memory, but I don't remember him being confirmed as a DF trainee until after Lionblaze caught him training with Blossomfall. Lionblaze suspected multiple times that he was a trainee, but I don't think it was confirmed until then. Then again, I don't remember when Mousewhisker was confirmed to be a trainee either. It might have been in the Last Hope as well. Maybe they changed it becasue Thornclaw was only mentioned as a trainee once while Ivypool was on a DF patrol with Mousewhisker? Maybe they changed it because Mousewhisker is closer in age than Blossomfall? It seems so random lol
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jul 22, 2020 19:55:11 GMT -5
I think it's because we never saw Thornclaw as a DF trainee at that point while Mousewhisker was a known trainee. I just went through my e-book, and from what I can tell, Mousewhisker actually gets revealed as a trainee in the same book as Thornclaw, but we never actually see either of them in the Dark Forest. The only ThunderClan cats we actually see training there are of course Ivypool, Birchfall, and Blossomfall.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 19:55:56 GMT -5
That makes sense, but in one of my books, someone addresses Thornclaw by name while they're training, showing that he's there. This could just be my faulty memory, but I don't remember him being confirmed as a DF trainee until after Lionblaze caught him training with Blossomfall. Lionblaze suspected multiple times that he was a trainee, but I don't think it was confirmed until then. Then again, I don't remember when Mousewhisker was confirmed to be a trainee either. It might have been in the Last Hope as well. Maybe they changed it becasue Thornclaw was only mentioned as a trainee once while Ivypool was on a DF patrol with Mousewhisker? Maybe they changed it because Mousewhisker is closer in age than Blossomfall? It seems so random lol I don't have the best memory when it comes to these books either, especially these arcs, so you might be right, I don't know, but I'm pretty sure I remember, someone being like, "Thornclaw!" and then it shifting to the next scene or something. This all seems like a big mess, like the Slatefur Rippletail thing, I'm still not sure what is up with that, but apparently Rippletail was supposed to be Slatefur and vise versa?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 19:56:49 GMT -5
I think it's because we never saw Thornclaw as a DF trainee at that point while Mousewhisker was a known trainee. I just went through my e-book, and from what I can tell, Mousewhisker actually gets revealed as a trainee in the same book as Thornclaw, but we never actually see either of them in the Dark Forest. The only ThunderClan cats we actually see training there are of course Ivypool, Birchfall, and Blossomfall. That's really interesting and strange. Thanks for checking!
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Post by Uмвяᴀ on Jul 22, 2020 19:57:23 GMT -5
I think it's because we never saw Thornclaw as a DF trainee at that point while Mousewhisker was a known trainee. I just went through my e-book, and from what I can tell, Mousewhisker actually gets revealed as a trainee in the same book as Thornclaw, but we never actually see either of them in the Dark Forest. The only ThunderClan cats we actually see training there are of course Ivypool, Birchfall, and Blossomfall. Ah, whoops. I guess it's because Thornclaw was only ever mentioned as a DF trainee while Mousewhisker actually patrolled with Ivypool then?
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𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jul 22, 2020 19:57:57 GMT -5
I just went through my e-book, and from what I can tell, Mousewhisker actually gets revealed as a trainee in the same book as Thornclaw, but we never actually see either of them in the Dark Forest. The only ThunderClan cats we actually see training there are of course Ivypool, Birchfall, and Blossomfall. Ah, whoops. I guess it's because Thornclaw was only ever mentioned as a DF trainee while Mousewhisker actually patrolled with Ivypool then? Yeah, probably.
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Post by Brindlefern on Jul 22, 2020 21:28:33 GMT -5
Dovewing's Novella has Blossom and Thorn together at multiple points iirc so there's still something for them there, but the initial "hint" scene being retconned makes absolutely no sense given putting Mousewhisker there makes it seem as though they were gonna pair them off, yet we see very clearly they don't do that.
A pointless retcon and then some.
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