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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on May 25, 2020 0:06:48 GMT -5
I just noticed this on the warriors wiki for Darkness Within, but the HarperCollins blurb says
"Packed with action and intrigue, this sixth[note 1] Warriors series is the perfect introduction for readers new to the Warriors world, while dedicated fans will be thrilled to discover the new adventures that unfold after the events of A Vision of Shadows."
the SIXTH series is the "perfect introduction" for *new readers*!?
do all the books blurbs say this!? they don't actually believe this, do they? that's pretty dumb
this is why i dont believe warriors gets new readers who are actually children because to me, kids HAVE to go back and read from the original series onward in order to catch up to the rest of us (older teens and adults who've been reading since WE were kids).
i am constantly underestimating kids these days, but to me, there is no way a kid will be able to understand anything of the other series if they didnt read all of the books from the beginning!
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Post by kinkajou on May 25, 2020 0:22:24 GMT -5
Yeah, all the blurbs say that I'm pretty sure. It's pretty dumb I agree, like.....what. no
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Post by Olivemoon on May 25, 2020 0:29:52 GMT -5
Every blurb says that and I just laugh. Like who is going to pick up a book that is the "5" book of an arc but in all reality is like the "35" books not including any of the other side books. I have read almost all of the books and yet I still get lost sometimes!
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on May 25, 2020 0:32:01 GMT -5
Yeah, all the blurbs say that I'm pretty sure. It's pretty dumb I agree, like.....what. no every single blurb says it? dang, that's not right lol how do kids now a days even find the series anyways then? the way i found it was my cousin was reading midnight but didnt know it wasnt the real FIRST book of the entire series, so i had to find that out myself and start at the beginning.
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Post by fireflylanes on May 25, 2020 2:33:03 GMT -5
man this reminds me of the kid who started at oots
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Post by Cheetahstar on May 25, 2020 2:34:18 GMT -5
my first book was Firesatrs quest ;w;
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2020 2:37:43 GMT -5
Probably because they know it's ridiculous to expect new readers to want to buy and read 40 something books just to catch up but they still wanna get that coin so they lie and say 'yup you can totally just buy this book rn its fine dont worry about it'
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Post by Ivyfalcon on May 25, 2020 2:41:14 GMT -5
my first book was Firesatrs quest ;w; Same Yeah, I think expecting someone to start on this arc would be kind of ridiculous.
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Post by Skypaw13 on May 25, 2020 3:30:46 GMT -5
I first noticed this when Lost Stars came out and I was pretty annoyed. Like, I know LS is a Book 1, but with the amount of knowledge you have to have to understand what the crap is going on in it, I can't think of a worse Book 1 to start on. I honestly think starting with The Fourth Apprentice would be easier to understand than starting with Lost Stars.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on May 25, 2020 3:35:15 GMT -5
Probably because they know it's ridiculous to expect new readers to want to buy and read 40 something books just to catch up but they still wanna get that coin so they lie and say 'yup you can totally just buy this book rn its fine dont worry about it' thats why i underestimate new readers, especially if they're the actual target audience. we're 6 series in by now and including all the SE's and novellas...that's way too much to catch up on now im just wondering how the hell harpercollins plans to advertise to the actual target audience. warriors is kinda niche i guess because it feels (to me anyways) that majority of the readers are like me, who have been reading since the mid 2000's and have stuck with it for years ever since, so we never had to play catch up i got into warriors in late elementary school and im currently 23! i've been reading since the mid to late 2000's right around the time power of three started coming out, so it wasnt as much to catch up on at the time.
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Post by Owl on May 25, 2020 10:00:01 GMT -5
maybe the editors do treat every book like a new beginning, lol. i remember when rosepetal spoke to bristlefrost in the silent thaw and there was something along the lines of "she'd been her mentor, so bristlefrost blah blah blah" like...yeah. bristlefrost was an apprentice in the previous book, we know rosepetal is her mentor. that's like there being a line in chamber of secrets where harry and dumbledore speak that says 'he was his headmaster, and they met last year.' they should trust in fans to remember things, these lines of exposition always look so awkward.
i've heard people call avos a "soft reboot" which was supposed to be, like, a fresh start after oots came to a close, which might have helped with the catch up game.
but i think this only would have worked if we'd actually received a large time-skip between oots and avos, in my opinion.
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Post by Card against Humanity on May 25, 2020 10:56:35 GMT -5
maybe the editors do treat every book like a new beginning, lol. i remember when rosepetal spoke to bristlefrost in the silent thaw and there was something along the lines of "she'd been her mentor, so bristlefrost blah blah blah" like...yeah. bristlefrost was an apprentice in the previous book, we know rosepetal is her mentor. that's like there being a line in chamber of secrets where harry and dumbledore speak that says 'he was his headmaster, and they met last year.' they should trust in fans to remember things, these lines of exposition always look so awkward. i've heard people call avos a "soft reboot" which was supposed to be, like, a fresh start after oots came to a close, which might have helped with the catch up game. but i think this only would have worked if omg i've noticed that as well and it bothers the hell out of me, both in warriors and in harry potter. like does anyone really think that the kids reading the books are starting halfway through? i wonder if the authors do it on purpose or if the publishers just assume kids are dumb and need reminders every book and force them to add them also book blurbs are terrible most of the time and dont do a good job of explaining what the book is like or what's going to happen imo, not just with warriors. im reminded of back in the day when the blurb for Twilight revealed that edward was a vampire when thats supposed to be a secret for the first 6 chapters (the book does a terrible job of concealing it though but that's a different discussion.)
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Post by Hopewish on May 25, 2020 11:07:01 GMT -5
the only other books besides Into the Wild i'd ever recommend someone to start off the series with is either The Sun Trail (highly unlikely though, it's.. a little confusing) or The Apprentice's Quest (since it was kind of supposed to be a small reboot of the series)
but not Lost Stars. heck I haven't even read the arc yet and I can already tell that people would be confused after chapter 3
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on May 25, 2020 11:38:39 GMT -5
I have no idea why they do that. I've just chalked it up to trying to get people to read the books more quickly.
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Post by Owl on May 25, 2020 12:32:12 GMT -5
maybe the editors do treat every book like a new beginning, lol. i remember when rosepetal spoke to bristlefrost in the silent thaw and there was something along the lines of "she'd been her mentor, so bristlefrost blah blah blah" like...yeah. bristlefrost was an apprentice in the previous book, we know rosepetal is her mentor. that's like there being a line in chamber of secrets where harry and dumbledore speak that says 'he was his headmaster, and they met last year.' they should trust in fans to remember things, these lines of exposition always look so awkward. i've heard people call avos a "soft reboot" which was supposed to be, like, a fresh start after oots came to a close, which might have helped with the catch up game. but i think this only would have worked if omg i've noticed that as well and it bothers the hell out of me, both in warriors and in harry potter. like does anyone really think that the kids reading the books are starting halfway through? i wonder if the authors do it on purpose or if the publishers just assume kids are dumb and need reminders every book and force them to add them also book blurbs are terrible most of the time and dont do a good job of explaining what the book is like or what's going to happen imo, not just with warriors. im reminded of back in the day when the blurb for Twilight revealed that edward was a vampire when thats supposed to be a secret for the first 6 chapters (the book does a terrible job of concealing it though but that's a different discussion.) it's really bothersome and i honestly forgot that harry potter genuinely did this, too - i was just using it as a hypothetical example! it looks so clunky on the page. instead of a line of exposition about rosepetal being bristlefrost's mentor, which everyone would remember considering she was only just made a warrior, maybe it would look less awkward if they referenced it through dialogue, either spoken out loud or internal. for example, I'm so lucky to have had a mentor like Rosepetal, Bristlefrost thought. it at least looks a bit more subtle.
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