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Post by Nutmeg the cat on May 18, 2020 12:32:56 GMT -5
this is not my opinion of who is a mary sue these are just cats who have been considered mary sues the most
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Post by mimikyutie on May 18, 2020 12:36:43 GMT -5
I mean Spottedleaf is basically considered the biggest Mary Sue.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2020 12:36:43 GMT -5
Dovewing and Spottedleaf, but I picked Dove because she's a protagonist and we have to put up with her shenanigans more.
I don't know if I'd consider Firestar a gary stu? I mean, he does tick some of the boxes but he's better written than Dove or Spotted. A mary sue or gary stu in my mind is not only flawless or special, but does bad things and is still seen as "perfect" or is otherwise badly written, imo.
I'm sure there are other characters that might be considered mary sue besides those three. Bristlefrost maybe? I don't dislike her although she does give me Dovewing vibes.
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Post by Card against Humanity on May 18, 2020 12:50:47 GMT -5
spottedleaf and bright stream are the only mary sues in warriors
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Post by kinkajou on May 18, 2020 13:00:17 GMT -5
I think Jessy is the biggest Mary Sue
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Post by Brindlefern on May 18, 2020 14:45:34 GMT -5
Firestar's far from a Gary Stu as he still shows to be rather flawed outside his PoV despite what some have said about him being "too perfect" once you get out of his head in the past. Just because you can't see the gears turning in his head doesn't make him a Stu now.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on May 18, 2020 14:49:14 GMT -5
i dont even think spottedleaf was written with any flaws...? even dovewing has flaws despite everything else people complain about her. spottedleaf is just the pretty ghost waifu who doesnt actually help anyone.
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Post by halogen on May 20, 2020 22:51:05 GMT -5
spottedleaf and bright stream are the only mary sues in warriors I don't think Bright Stream can be a sue by virtue of dying only a few chapters in (and not being the constant presence afterward that Spottedleaf was), I feel like a Mary Sue has to be an important character in the story rather than one who only has no flaws because they have no screen time.
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Post by Brindlefern on May 20, 2020 23:10:50 GMT -5
i dont even think spottedleaf was written with any flaws...? even dovewing has flaws despite everything else people complain about her. spottedleaf is just the pretty ghost waifu who doesnt actually help anyone. I think her obsessiveness counts but even then the writing doesn't write it off as creepy like you'd think that would be and tries to write it off as love and as if it's endearing. Which funnily enough could count as a Mary-Sue trait (Flaws written off as quirky and endearing and whatnot instead of actually as flaws I think. I feel like only SHA really captivates her flaw as a flaw to the reader, but we never have a PoV in the main books call this out).
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Post by Woofzie on May 21, 2020 4:39:03 GMT -5
I don't think there are any Mary Sues or Gary Stues in Warriors and both Firestar and Dovewing are FAR from that term but the closest examples could be Spottedleaf or Jessy.
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Post by swin on May 21, 2020 9:56:48 GMT -5
Spottedleaf and Jessy are the only characters that are really Mary Sue-ish
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Post by numberonestar on May 21, 2020 10:17:11 GMT -5
Jake - Not only was he the father of Firestar and Scourge, but he was also very close with Tallstar and Pinestar, and he always seemed to make the right choices. Also, the rumor floating around that he got taken out by a meteor? Most interesting way to die ever.
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Post by Brindlefern on May 21, 2020 16:57:54 GMT -5
Jake - Not only was he the father of Firestar and Scourge, but he was also very close with Tallstar and Pinestar, and he always seemed to make the right choices. Also, the rumor floating around that he got taken out by a meteor? Most interesting way to die ever. I wouldn't call Jake a Gary Stu just for being a father of the main protagonist and minor antagonist. That would mean Nutmeg and Quince are for being the mothers of them even though they're very minor characters at best. The meteor thing was LONG debunked. LOOOOOOONG been debunked and was too silly to be believed to begin with so doesn't count.
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Post by Card against Humanity on May 21, 2020 17:10:12 GMT -5
spottedleaf and bright stream are the only mary sues in warriors I don't think Bright Stream can be a sue by virtue of dying only a few chapters in (and not being the constant presence afterward that Spottedleaf was), I feel like a Mary Sue has to be an important character in the story rather than one who only has no flaws because they have no screen time. eh true. my definition of a mary sue is a perfect character with no flaws, which bright stream definitely is, she has no character other than being Clear Sky's perfect mate who gets fridged also jessy is probably a mary sue as well, i forgot most of bramblestars storm though
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on May 21, 2020 18:26:03 GMT -5
spottedleaf and bright stream are the only mary sues in warriors I don't think Bright Stream can be a sue by virtue of dying only a few chapters in (and not being the constant presence afterward that Spottedleaf was), I feel like a Mary Sue has to be an important character in the story rather than one who only has no flaws because they have no screen time. If anything Star Flower was the biggest Mary Sue in DotC. Her only flaw was being One Eye's daughter lol.
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Post by Nutmeg the cat on May 23, 2020 18:45:02 GMT -5
I don't think Bright Stream can be a sue by virtue of dying only a few chapters in (and not being the constant presence afterward that Spottedleaf was), I feel like a Mary Sue has to be an important character in the story rather than one who only has no flaws because they have no screen time. If anything Star Flower was the biggest Mary Sue in DotC. Her only flaw was being One Eye's daughter lol. having an evil dad/mom isn't a flaw. so you are more correct about star flower being a marysue than you thought
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Post by satanael on May 24, 2020 12:27:41 GMT -5
y’all wish you knew what a mary sue was
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