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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 9, 2020 15:34:21 GMT -5
just wanted to make a new recent thread for people to continue the convo from cottonfur's thread. based off spoilers:
i dont like how bristlefrost randomly and suddenly likes rootspring back. i really liked the mature route they were taking by having rootspring confess early, have bristlefrost reject him early, and thus have both of them move on from it early. it is a clear divergent from what used to happen with forbidden love/pairings.
they are good as friends and i want them to stay just friends with them both moving on completely from their feelings.
i hope my idea from spot x stem x bristle carries over to this. the idea i'm referring to was having stemleaf like bristlefrost once bristlefrost moves on from him, this the good ol' switcheroo would occur and cause drama, but i headcanoned that if this happened, stemleaf would still choose spotfur in the end despite his view of bristlefrost changing.
this idea i came up with can carry over to bristle x root. rootspring could move on from bristlefrost, and this causes bristlefrost to see him differently and start liking him back. angst and drama could occur, etc.
but in reality, i dont want her to like him back. i hope in the next book, bristlefrost realizes her respect for him was mistaken for romantic affection. i really just want them to be friends in canon.
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Post by *Ottersplash* on Apr 9, 2020 15:40:11 GMT -5
I agree that her feelings for Rootspring literally came out of no where and I don't want them together.
I just don't think they feel compatible.
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Post by dragonfruit on Apr 9, 2020 15:42:59 GMT -5
I would be okay with it if Bristlefrost’s thoughts on Rootspring were elaborated on slightly more throughout the book, instead of that one random scene near the end of VOS that felt really out of the blue. I don’t hate the ship, but Bristlefrost returning his feelings felt rushed/sudden? At least they’ve both acknowledged that nothing can happen for the time being.
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Post by sorethroat on Apr 9, 2020 15:43:13 GMT -5
I definitely like her when she’s aware of Rootpaw’s attraction to her and objects to it. I just wish she follows through and shut him down completely and the romance dies like that.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 9, 2020 15:54:38 GMT -5
i just thought of something
what if this series ends with the code being changed and cats are allowed to have mates from different clans...i would literally bang my head on the desk if that happens...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 16:00:41 GMT -5
i just thought of something what if this series ends with the code being changed and cats are allowed to have mates from different clans...i would literally bang my head on the desk if that happens... I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this is a bad idea. Like, I know the bloodlines are pretty...not diverse I guess? But if cats can just become mates with cats from other clans, then, would they even be separate clans anymore? What would make them unique as a clan, if they're all like half-ThunderClan, half-SkyClan, half-RiverClan, half-ShadowClan?
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 9, 2020 16:02:47 GMT -5
i just thought of something what if this series ends with the code being changed and cats are allowed to have mates from different clans...i would literally bang my head on the desk if that happens... I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this is a bad idea. Like, I know the bloodlines are pretty...not diverse I guess? But if cats can just become mates with cats from other clans, then, would they even be separate clans anymore? What would make them unique as a clan, if they're all like half-ThunderClan, half-SkyClan, half-RiverClan, half-ShadowClan? this just reminds me of tigerstar 1's "one clan" idea lol if bristle x root do continue being developed, i want it to go down the feathertail route. feathertail was stated to choose her clan over crowpaw once they got to the lake (if she had lived obviously).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 16:05:54 GMT -5
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this is a bad idea. Like, I know the bloodlines are pretty...not diverse I guess? But if cats can just become mates with cats from other clans, then, would they even be separate clans anymore? What would make them unique as a clan, if they're all like half-ThunderClan, half-SkyClan, half-RiverClan, half-ShadowClan? this just reminds me of tigerstar 1's "one clan" idea lol if bristle x root do continue being developed, i want it to go down the feathertail route. feathertail was stated to choose her clan over crowpaw once they got to the lake (if she had lived obviously). Lol, that would be a good plan
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Post by sorethroat on Apr 9, 2020 16:06:34 GMT -5
i just thought of something what if this series ends with the code being changed and cats are allowed to have mates from different clans...i would literally bang my head on the desk if that happens... I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this is a bad idea. Like, I know the bloodlines are pretty...not diverse I guess? But if cats can just become mates with cats from other clans, then, would they even be separate clans anymore? What would make them unique as a clan, if they're all like half-ThunderClan, half-SkyClan, half-RiverClan, half-ShadowClan? I would say they can still be separated Clans, it’s not like all the cats will decide to mate outside the Clan always. In real life that’s not how it works anyways, some clans aren’t about bloodline and more about who you align with, heck some clans say that you CAN’T marry within your parental clans to prevent inbreeding, so if your dad was in one clan and your mom was in another, you have to marry outside of those. Kits could end up being raised in one Clan or the other.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 16:21:11 GMT -5
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this is a bad idea. Like, I know the bloodlines are pretty...not diverse I guess? But if cats can just become mates with cats from other clans, then, would they even be separate clans anymore? What would make them unique as a clan, if they're all like half-ThunderClan, half-SkyClan, half-RiverClan, half-ShadowClan? I would say they can still be separated Clans, it’s not like all the cats will decide to mate outside the Clan always. In real life that’s not how it works anyways, some clans aren’t about bloodline and more about who you align with, heck some clans say that you CAN’T marry within your parental clans to prevent inbreeding, so if your dad was in one clan and your mom was in another, you have to marry outside of those. Kits could end up being raised in one Clan or the other. That makes sense, it's a good idea, but if the clans plan on interfighting, there's still a lot of problems
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Post by sorethroat on Apr 9, 2020 16:25:50 GMT -5
I would say they can still be separated Clans, it’s not like all the cats will decide to mate outside the Clan always. In real life that’s not how it works anyways, some clans aren’t about bloodline and more about who you align with, heck some clans say that you CAN’T marry within your parental clans to prevent inbreeding, so if your dad was in one clan and your mom was in another, you have to marry outside of those. Kits could end up being raised in one Clan or the other. That makes sense, it's a good idea, but if the clans plan on interfighting, there's still a lot of problems Oh yes no doubt, battle cats are gonna do what battle cats do, so most will still have major bias against half-Clan cats.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 16:27:37 GMT -5
That makes sense, it's a good idea, but if the clans plan on interfighting, there's still a lot of problems Oh yes no doubt, battle cats are gonna do what battle cats do, so most will still have major bias against half-Clan cats. I don't understand why they so readily fight each other, because they all really want the same thing, and at the end of they day, they're all going to defend each other against outside forces. So, the fighting between them seems a bit pointless
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Post by barley on Apr 9, 2020 16:32:05 GMT -5
I hate that they're suddenly pushing Bristleroot when Bristleforst has rarely though about Rootpaw. I'm so tired of forbidden romances, especially when the characters have no chemistry.
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Post by sorethroat on Apr 9, 2020 16:34:03 GMT -5
Oh yes no doubt, battle cats are gonna do what battle cats do, so most will still have major bias against half-Clan cats. I don't understand why they so readily fight each other, because they all really want the same thing, and at the end of they day, they're all going to defend each other against outside forces. So, the fighting between them seems a bit pointless I was wondering the same thing really and it used to give me an existential crisis a bit because it feels as if that’s all they’re going to do for the end of time with little progress. That’s why I’m partially hoping they make some changes by the end of this arc.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 16:35:04 GMT -5
I don't understand why they so readily fight each other, because they all really want the same thing, and at the end of they day, they're all going to defend each other against outside forces. So, the fighting between them seems a bit pointless I was wondering the same thing really and it used to give me an existential crisis a bit because it feels as if that’s all they’re going to do for the end of time with little progress. That’s why I’m partially hoping they make some changes by the end of this arc. Me too, I hope it goes to like in Dawn of the Clans before Clear Sky ruined everything
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 9, 2020 16:35:29 GMT -5
It was sudden, but I'm glad the two are actually being mature about it.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Apr 9, 2020 16:42:36 GMT -5
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this is a bad idea. Like, I know the bloodlines are pretty...not diverse I guess? But if cats can just become mates with cats from other clans, then, would they even be separate clans anymore? What would make them unique as a clan, if they're all like half-ThunderClan, half-SkyClan, half-RiverClan, half-ShadowClan? I would say they can still be separated Clans, it’s not like all the cats will decide to mate outside the Clan always. In real life that’s not how it works anyways, some clans aren’t about bloodline and more about who you align with, heck some clans say that you CAN’T marry within your parental clans to prevent inbreeding, so if your dad was in one clan and your mom was in another, you have to marry outside of those. Kits could end up being raised in one Clan or the other. This is basically what I've been wanting for several years now if the Clans decide to do away with borders once and for all. It'd be similar to how things were before Clan rivalries became a major part of their lives. The Clans have worked together just fine many times before, so there's really no reason for why this can't be permanent. The closest thing they have is the sixteenth code.
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Post by Brindlefern on Apr 9, 2020 17:16:44 GMT -5
I won't mind if forbidden relationships were allowed after this, that rule's been broken sooo many times there's really no point having it forbidden since it's just more trouble than it's worth forbidding it and mainly just used for drama. If the borders NEED to be there, just have it go back to DoTC where border bullshit (excluding clear sky) was somewhat looser. I don't see why it's such a bad idea for them to see being so stingy and mega-territorial can be more trouble than not and loosening up on it somewhat.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Apr 9, 2020 18:35:31 GMT -5
I won't mind if forbidden relationships were allowed after this, that rule's been broken sooo many times there's really no point having it forbidden since it's just more trouble than it's worth forbidding it and mainly just used for drama. If the borders NEED to be there, just have it go back to DoTC where border bullshit (excluding clear sky) was somewhat looser. I don't see why it's such a bad idea for them to see being so stingy and mega-territorial can be more trouble than not and loosening up on it somewhat. would it be fair or correct to compare the clans to countries? would it be the same if it were illegal to marry someone from another country? i was thinking if they made cross clan "marriages" legal, then there would be more benefits and diplomatic benefits too, right? im not good at politics though.
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