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Post by Skypaw13 on Nov 7, 2019 18:54:24 GMT -5
Reading all those threads for Squirrelflight's Hope a few months back gave me the wrong impression.
It was... actually really good. I was certainly angry at a few points but I thought it was an excellent conclusion to Squirrelflight's and Leafpool's story. I read it in two days and was completely engaged with the story, which I haven't been able to say about a Warriors book since TLH. It's certainly not perfect, but it was enjoyable and kept my attention, which is all I really ask out of a Warriors book. It also made me cry two separate times, which is IMPRESSIVE.
My only real complaint is that Lionblaze, Hollyleaf, and Alderheart aren't talked about enough. So much focus is put on Sparkpelt, which is fine, and a bit of focus is on Jayfeather. But in a story all about Squirrelflight's relationship with her family and children, I would expect them all to have a prominent role.
Also, that StarClan trial was awkward. Not because the idea is bad (the idea's REALLY GOOD, but it could have been done better), but because of the cats present. Like, if I were to pick out the most relevant powerful cats to make up a supreme council that judges cats as they enter StarClan, those are NOT the cats I'd pick. Except for Moth Flight, I'd keep her.
Other than that, though, I don't really have too much to complain about. Reading the threads when it first came out, I was sure I'd hate it, but I didn't. Y'all got me pretty good.
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All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Nov 7, 2019 19:14:50 GMT -5
This is why I usually try to check something out for myself before judging it, as opinions can vary. Anyway, I certainly wouldn't call it the worse SE, but Bramblestar and Squirrelflight's arguing as well as the trial itself definitely brought it down for me. Hollyleaf also being okay with Ashfur in StarClan because he apologized also annoyed me (it's been moons since his death, so I can kinda buy her at least coming to tolerate it, I just didn't expect her response to be so casual).
Other than that, I thought the book was fine, and I especially loved seeing Squirrelflight and Sparkpelt's relationship. Another thing I loved is how Tree doesn't forgive Moonlight even after she died. Because yeah, what she did to him was still horrible even if it was part of her culture and he shouldn't have to grieve for her if he feels like she doesn't deserve it.
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Post by Mistybreeze on Nov 8, 2019 1:44:00 GMT -5
Never let the fandom make up your mind for you. I've noticed that a lot of people will jump from "I don't like this scene or character" to "I don't like this scene or character therefore this a bad book". Obviously people can like or dislike what they like, but it is simply wrong to judge a book off of one scene or character. Fall into this mindset and you will soon stop enjoying this series. It's important to remember that this is an imperfect series written by imperfect people. Let the little things go and try to keep your complaints to the major issues and you will be reading this series for many years to come. Just my two cents on recent observations.
So far I am loving this book. Squirrelflight and Bramblestar are their typical stubborn selves just like in TNP. It's great to see Sparkpelt get some more development. And I love the Sisters. Such a cool concept.
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Post by mymerlincat on Nov 8, 2019 1:45:49 GMT -5
This is why I leave this site every time the preview comes out for a book, and don't return until I've finished it.
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Post by Mistybreeze on Nov 8, 2019 1:47:13 GMT -5
This is why I leave this site every time the preview comes out for a book, and don't return until I've finished it. That works too
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Post by Skypaw13 on Nov 8, 2019 1:51:35 GMT -5
This is why I leave this site every time the preview comes out for a book, and don't return until I've finished it. Unfortunately I'm not in a position where I can buy the newest books as they come out, so I have to get them from the library. SqH was really in demand so I wasn't able to get it until a few days ago, despite placing the hold the day it came out. And let's face it, I don't have the willpower nor desire to leave this site for two months (or more, because if I had left until I read SqH, I would then have to stay away because I don't have The Silent Thaw yet).
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Nov 8, 2019 11:46:55 GMT -5
That's why I take the fandom's opinions with a grain of salt and read the book for myself. Squirrelflight's Hope did have a few mistakes, but it was still a good book and I enjoyed it.
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Post by 𝗟𝗢𝗨𝗜𝗘〡𝑟𝑦𝑜 𝑎𝑠𝑢𝑘𝑎 𝑚𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑎𝑙 on Nov 8, 2019 12:06:49 GMT -5
squirrelflight's hope put me in an odd position where i really enjoyed it, but it really brought how absolutely shitty the clans can be to the front and center. when you get to see how atrocious these cats who you've known and trusted for a long time can be it's really... idk, kinda shocking and upsetting!
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Post by Skypaw13 on Nov 8, 2019 13:37:16 GMT -5
squirrelflight's hope put me in an odd position where i really enjoyed it, but it really brought how absolutely shitty the clans can be to the front and center. when you get to see how atrocious these cats who you've known and trusted for a long time can be it's really... idk, kinda shocking and upsetting! That's actually one of the reasons I liked it. XD It was angering, but it also didn't feel unrealistic. I actually really admire books that are able to do that.
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Post by sylveon on Nov 8, 2019 14:09:46 GMT -5
I agree that it put me in an odd position too. It was well written in the fact that it actually made me feel things. Not a lot of books can do that, and Warriors hasn't done that to me in a while and especially not on this scale. I was angry and frustrated with Bramblestar and the Clans, but it did feel very real. I also love that we saw a darker side of the Clans being emphasized with their entitlement and greed. The scene when Squirrelflight briefly wakes up to see Leafpool was both heartbreaking and mildly horrifying. It's not a bad book, of course it has its problems, and i think they did a great job setting it up as an introduction into the Broken Code.
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