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Post by Clementine on Jul 28, 2019 19:26:23 GMT -5
So I haven’t read the books in years, but I decided to look up what happened to some of the characters since that last book I read. Apparently Squirreltflight died and just... came back to life? I mean I heard Tigerheart did that as well, but he was immediately made leader or something right?
All the wiki page says is: “Before the book, Squirrelflight and Leafpool are killed in a rockslide but Squirrelflight returns from StarClan but refuses to share anything StarClan shared with her.”
I’m so confused. I’m sure it would make sense in context but since I haven’t read the book it just seems so bizarre
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Jul 28, 2019 19:31:43 GMT -5
I assume it was kind of a coma thing?
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Post by kinkajou on Jul 28, 2019 20:13:25 GMT -5
Yeah it's going to happen in Squirrelflight's Hope. Apparently she comes back through ~the power of love~
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Post by Brindlefern on Jul 28, 2019 20:32:55 GMT -5
Near-death coma.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 20:51:18 GMT -5
yeah I don't think she actually dies, its just like a coma. I don't think it's ever explicitly stated that she was "killed"
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Post by Clementine on Jul 28, 2019 22:46:10 GMT -5
I haven’t seriously read one of the books since TLH. I skimmed through the first book of the last series (I can’t even remember what it was called), when it first came out and I haven’t touched any of the books since.
Everything that’s going on in the books now is so foreign to me. I don’t know if it’s because I got older or because the Erins ran out of ideas, but a lot of the stuff I’ve read about the more recent books just seems kind of dumb, although I’m sure if I went and read the older books now I’d wonder why I ever liked them in the first place, given the subject matter.
And I’m definitely not a fan of a lot of the new names. Snowbush? Twigbranch? Plumstone? But especially Twigbranch. I mean, come on.
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Post by Skypaw13 on Jul 29, 2019 4:10:48 GMT -5
Clementine Honestly, I'll always feel like the series ended after TLH, and everything after it is slightly more official fanfiction. I don't think it's you aging and changing your opinion, I think AVoS and its subsequent books are just legitimately less consistent with the established lore than the first 4 or 5 arcs were. Twigbranch is a just okay name in my opinion, but for some freaking reason, and I have no idea why, I always say Twigshine in my head while thinking about her, and I almost never catch it (other people do). I like Snowbush. Plumstone is just bizarre.
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Post by lollycat on Jul 29, 2019 8:42:39 GMT -5
Skypaw13 concerning Plumstone, stone is referring to the seed of the plum. To me the seed is the heart of the plum because it bring forth another plum plant. Sometimes looking how names interreact with other names they become more understandable. Such as Tree and his son Root. To me Root the son will stabilize his father Tree in the coming books. Twigbranch, twig grows off of a branch. Snowbush is a California shrub with many small white flower. Some of the names are uncommon but may be interesting once you look them up.
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Post by Owl on Jul 29, 2019 9:20:21 GMT -5
i agree that everything written after the last hope feels strangely separated from the four original arcs, not including dawn of the clans.
i feel like they could have fixed this problem by including a big time-skip between oots and avos. why are we reading about bramblestar and squirrelflight's kits again, when we already did that all the way back in power of three? why couldn't they have skipped through a few generations and introduced a new, fresh cast? this way, they could have even implemented new clan laws, codes, and ways of life.
i liked the first three books of avos a lot, and the main cast was solid, but i don't see why it couldn't have taken place, say, 10-20 years after the end of oots. not much would be different, only a few plot-points would have to be moved around.
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Post by Honeyfall on Jul 29, 2019 9:41:36 GMT -5
I'm SO glad I'm not the only one that hasn't read much since TLH! I'm rereading all of the books (currently on the second arc) so I can try to catch back up.
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Post by dashingshadows on Jul 29, 2019 10:06:27 GMT -5
From what I understand, it was caused by the connection she has with Leafpool so when Leafpool got squished by rocks Squirrelflight’s spirit got dragged to StarClan as well
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Post by Skypaw13 on Jul 29, 2019 17:28:14 GMT -5
lollycat Okay, but do the cats know all of this information? I don't mind symbolism (such as Root and Tree) at all, but Plumstone is a weird name. I understand Twigbranch, as it was directly stated why she has that name, I just don't like it. They're my opinions. dashingshadows I don't know if or when that's been confirmed, but if that's the reason, that would be amazing. Owl I really really wish Squirrelflight was in fact unable to have kits, it made her struggle really interesting.
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Post by sonnensturm1 on Jul 29, 2019 17:50:03 GMT -5
Plumstone is a totally normal name to me. The seed of a plum, peach etc. is called a stone. If Plumstone is considered 'weird', then why isn't Strikestone?
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Post by Skypaw13 on Jul 29, 2019 19:30:47 GMT -5
Plumstone is a totally normal name to me. The seed of a plum, peach etc. is called a stone. If Plumstone is considered 'weird', then why isn't Strikestone? Because it's an opinion. There's no reason for it other than I don't like it. You can like it all you want. EDIT: it might not be a weird name to anyone else, but I don't like it and apparently Clementine doesn't either. It's just a name, it's really not that important.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 19:40:11 GMT -5
I found Plumstone weird/interesting because it makes me think of a gas station
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Post by Clementine on Jul 29, 2019 19:52:06 GMT -5
Plumstone is a totally normal name to me. The seed of a plum, peach etc. is called a stone. If Plumstone is considered 'weird', then why isn't Strikestone? I honestly didn’t see Strikestone on the list I was looking at, but I do find it to be a weird name. It’s not as weird as Plumstone though. I think plum just seems like an odd prefix. I don’t like Plumwillow either. Things like apple and cherry are fine. Other fruits, not so much. I wouldn’t like a name like Peachflower or Bananapelt either. Strike also seems like an odd prefix, and stone is an odd suffix that I’ve never been a fan of. But Strikestone sounds better than Plumstone for some reason, and I think it might be because of the alliteration.
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Post by sonnensturm1 on Jul 30, 2019 12:29:37 GMT -5
Plumstone is a totally normal name to me. The seed of a plum, peach etc. is called a stone. If Plumstone is considered 'weird', then why isn't Strikestone? I honestly didn’t see Strikestone on the list I was looking at, but I do find it to be a weird name. It’s not as weird as Plumstone though. I think plum just seems like an odd prefix. I don’t like Plumwillow either. Things like apple and cherry are fine. Other fruits, not so much. I wouldn’t like a name like Peachflower or Bananapelt either. Strike also seems like an odd prefix, and stone is an odd suffix that I’ve never been a fan of. But Strikestone sounds better than Plumstone for some reason, and I think it might be because of the alliteration. I agree that Bananapelt would be indeed weird because it is a tropical fruit for me. Peachflower is cute though.
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Post by Spinestar on Aug 1, 2019 9:27:04 GMT -5
Mistystar will die in Book 3, SE13, or Book 4:
If you guys see my previous post, youll see I proved SE13 will be about the next RC leader xD! I am pretty sure this can also lead us to determine when Mistystar (and/or Reedwhsiker, unless he is the next leader) will die
SE13 is coming out between books 3 and 4 of TBC. so it would make sense that a change in deputyship/leadership (Misty, Reed, or both, dying) happens in book 3 and the new cat becomes deputy or even leader in book 3 and the next published book (SE13) gives us the new deputy/leaders personaliy.
If its not book 3, then SE will give us the new deputy (and eventual leader’s) identity and personality beforehand and we’ll see a deputyship/leadership change (Misty, Reed or both, dying) in book 4, which is when the new deputy, who we now know something about, will become leader
Or maybe the change in deputyship/leadership happens in SE13 itself and the new deputy becomes leader at the end like in TS
I am using leader/deputy interchangably here, as it possible that the new cat will simply replace Reedwhisker as deputy and Mistystar continues her immortality streak at 16.08 years old and lives on till books 5, 6 or even past this arc. Or it could be that Reedwhisker will be the next leader and SE13 will be about him and as a result Mistystar dies at the end of the SE
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Post by Spinestar on Aug 1, 2019 9:27:16 GMT -5
Mistystar will die in Book 3, SE13, or Book 4:
If you guys see my previous post, youll see I proved SE13 will be about the next RC leader xD! I am pretty sure this can also lead us to determine when Mistystar (and/or Reedwhsiker, unless he is the next leader) will die
SE13 is coming out between books 3 and 4 of TBC. so it would make sense that a change in deputyship/leadership (Misty, Reed, or both, dying) happens in book 3 and the new cat becomes deputy or even leader in book 3 and the next published book (SE13) gives us the new deputy/leaders personaliy.
If its not book 3, then SE will give us the new deputy (and eventual leader’s) identity and personality beforehand and we’ll see a deputyship/leadership change (Misty, Reed or both, dying) in book 4, which is when the new deputy, who we now know something about, will become leader
Or maybe the change in deputyship/leadership happens in SE13 itself and the new deputy becomes leader at the end like in TS
I am using leader/deputy interchangably here, as it possible that the new cat will simply replace Reedwhisker as deputy and Mistystar continues her immortality streak at 16.08 years old and lives on till books 5, 6 or even past this arc. Or it could be that Reedwhisker will be the next leader and SE13 will be about him and as a result Mistystar dies at the end of the SE
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Post by snow on Aug 1, 2019 9:58:20 GMT -5
Plumstone is a bizarre name. It would make more sense if it was Plumseed but even that would be strange. Why not something like Plumshine, Plumclaw, or Plumlight (after Briarlight maybe). I also can't help hating Twigbranch, and Snowbush is also kind of weird. I just don't thing branch or bush are good suffixes. Strikestone is also strange because by the normal, older naming conventions it would've been Stonestrike, which makes a lot more sense.
I dislike a lot of the new names but I try to justify it by figuring that the clan naming preferences may be changing and evolving, which is a really cool concept that we know happens because of the original clan names and the tribe names, but we've never seen the change in action. I still prefer the names in the first three arcs because they were so classic and there were some really beautiful ones like Silverstream, Dappletail, Brindleface, Jayfeather, Feathertail, and so many more. There's still some pretty ones but they're overshadowed by the strange ones now.
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Post by Brindlefern on Aug 1, 2019 11:54:55 GMT -5
Mistystar will die in Book 3, SE13, or Book 4: If you guys see my previous post, youll see I proved SE13 will be about the next RC leader xD! I am pretty sure this can also lead us to determine when Mistystar (and/or Reedwhsiker, unless he is the next leader) will die SE13 is coming out between books 3 and 4 of TBC. so it would make sense that a change in deputyship/leadership (Misty, Reed, or both, dying) happens in book 3 and the new cat becomes deputy or even leader in book 3 and the next published book (SE13) gives us the new deputy/leaders personaliy. If its not book 3, then SE will give us the new deputy (and eventual leader’s) identity and personality beforehand and we’ll see a deputyship/leadership change (Misty, Reed or both, dying) in book 4, which is when the new deputy, who we now know something about, will become leader Or maybe the change in deputyship/leadership happens in SE13 itself and the new deputy becomes leader at the end like in TS I am using leader/deputy interchangably here, as it possible that the new cat will simply replace Reedwhisker as deputy and Mistystar continues her immortality streak at 16.08 years old and lives on till books 5, 6 or even past this arc. Or it could be that Reedwhisker will be the next leader and SE13 will be about him and as a result Mistystar dies at the end of the SE You didn't '''prove''' shit. Also this is related to absolutely fricking NOTHING to the topic of the thread. =.=
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Post by Clementine on Aug 1, 2019 12:00:28 GMT -5
Mistystar will die in Book 3, SE13, or Book 4: If you guys see my previous post, youll see I proved SE13 will be about the next RC leader xD! I am pretty sure this can also lead us to determine when Mistystar (and/or Reedwhsiker, unless he is the next leader) will die SE13 is coming out between books 3 and 4 of TBC. so it would make sense that a change in deputyship/leadership (Misty, Reed, or both, dying) happens in book 3 and the new cat becomes deputy or even leader in book 3 and the next published book (SE13) gives us the new deputy/leaders personaliy. If its not book 3, then SE will give us the new deputy (and eventual leader’s) identity and personality beforehand and we’ll see a deputyship/leadership change (Misty, Reed or both, dying) in book 4, which is when the new deputy, who we now know something about, will become leader Or maybe the change in deputyship/leadership happens in SE13 itself and the new deputy becomes leader at the end like in TS I am using leader/deputy interchangably here, as it possible that the new cat will simply replace Reedwhisker as deputy and Mistystar continues her immortality streak at 16.08 years old and lives on till books 5, 6 or even past this arc. Or it could be that Reedwhisker will be the next leader and SE13 will be about him and as a result Mistystar dies at the end of the SE You didn't '''prove''' shit. Those are the only three posts on the account it almost looks like they created the account just to post them even though this thread has nothing to do with that That’s weird
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Post by Sand on Aug 1, 2019 16:52:56 GMT -5
The comment is from BlogClan and looking at the account there it seems that they made it to post it again— if it’s even the same person from BlogClan. Also, Brindlefern — chill.
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