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Post by frostflower on Dec 1, 2018 5:49:00 GMT -5
So whilst I’ve re-read the Original Series time and time again, I’ve just picked up Midnight again for the first time in over 10 years. The main reason why I hadn’t re-read it was because I didn’t enjoy the plot as much as the OS - it was an awful lot of walking and I was sad to leave the forest territories as we’d only just gotten to know them.
But golly, am I blown away at how much more elegant the writing style is compared to the later series! It’s so much more descriptive and there isn’t an annoying first-person thought bubble on every page. The dialogue actually sounds like it belongs in a fantasy series rather than an American middle school and the cats aren’t as anthropomorphic as they are in the later books. The cats actually have personalities - Brambleclaw is sensible and a leader, Squirrelpaw is intelligent but annoying, Leafpaw is quiet and studious, Feathertail is sweet and gentle, Crowpaw is aggressive but loyal... etc etc. This is a contrast to characters like Dovewing, Alderheart, Twigbranch etc, who just seem to react to events - I couldn’t tell you their personalities if I tried! The Clans have distinct cultures and StarClan are still these mysterious cats that appear by starlight, rather than appearing in a ‘sunny hollow with the warm scents of prey and greenleaf around them’ EVERY SINGLE PROLOGUE. So honestly I’m really enjoying it.
I know fans are really divided on it, with some thinking the walking makes for a really boring plot whilst others enjoy it. What are your thoughts on it?
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Post by kinkajou on Dec 1, 2018 11:37:40 GMT -5
I like Midnight, Dawn, and Starlight but the rest of TNP is really bad imo. Although I enjoy reading Starlight if I'm being honest it's not very...good
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Post by Moonblazer on Dec 1, 2018 12:13:49 GMT -5
It’s my favorite arc by far
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Post by Redstorm on Dec 1, 2018 14:35:05 GMT -5
Definitely my favorite. It's full of subtle nuances instead of the grandiose chosen one philosophies. Also I think the focus on multiple cats outside of the same family is great, it makes the world seem bigger.
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Post by Thunderheart57 on Dec 1, 2018 16:43:44 GMT -5
TNP is not my favorite arc, but I will agree that the writing in that was more consistent in the Warriors universe than the recent installments in the franchise. If I ended reading the series at Dawn, I would have not been disappointed and had a great conclusion.
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Post by Mistybreeze on Dec 1, 2018 18:11:12 GMT -5
Midnight was my first Warriors book, so naturally it and the rest of TNP is incredibly nostalgic and dear to my heart. I still can't read Feathertail's death without crying.
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#add8e6
Name Colour
*Ravenpaw*
Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Dec 1, 2018 19:04:06 GMT -5
I loved TNP. It's better than the later main books.
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Post by scint on Dec 1, 2018 20:30:04 GMT -5
The only book I liked was Dawn, and some parts of Moonrise. Otherwise I hated it.
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Post by vectoring34 on Dec 1, 2018 20:47:25 GMT -5
Bored me to tears. The descriptions of every single blade of grass they came across slow the pace to a crawl and at times it felt more like reading a Wiki entry describing a place rather than an actual story. A friend I know joked that it's practically the real estate advertisement arc and I agree.
As far as characters go, Brambleclaw becomes mind numbingly thick skulled the moment they get to the lake what with talking to Tigerstar in his dreams and the debacle with Hawkfrost. He's frustrating to read about because the entire plot hinges upon his acting dumb for no real reason. There's no real tragic backstory or reasoning, he's just acting bad because he needs to. Let's not even talk about Leafpool and Crowfeather's slap and dash romance that comes out of nowhere and is basically predicated solely on "he looks hot" and that's it. The Tribe as characters are also just kind of random and don't make much sense in their little mountain cult. Midnight is also kind of pointless here. She worked in the Power of Three and Omen of the Stars because she served as this greater power beyond Starclan but here all she does is add another link for Starclan's message. She's basically just there because Starclan can't be bothered to give dreams to the journeying cats like they usually do.
As far as plot, the whole idea of the clans needing to work together is basically forgotten about the moment they get to the lake and it wasn't even that important on the journey, rendering Midnight effectively pointless as a book since learning how to work together accomplished nothing. The badger attack book is bizarrely out of place with the rest of the arc and comes nigh out of nowhere in what is almost a Big Lipped Alligator Moment. The prophecies from Starclan are also rather bizarre in this arc and not very helpful. Also goodness the walking. So much walking. One of the few good things AVOS did was truncate the walking from the lake to the old forest last only a single book for a round trip.
As you can probably see, not a fan of TNP.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 21:50:18 GMT -5
This was definitely the arc I read after the first arc, and I still remember The New Prophecy fondly. It's got its ups and downs like any other arc, but it's a masterpiece compared to later arcs.
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Post by whiteflight on Dec 2, 2018 12:57:09 GMT -5
I like it, the first 2 books got be bored though, but later on I came to like it when I was reading Dawn. Only part I got annoyed and hated is Bramble and Squirrel arguing 24/7 after the journey.
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Post by gonxkillua on Dec 2, 2018 13:46:57 GMT -5
The first is well written if borring at time, the second half however is poorly written monstrosity fill with awful romances plots and characters actting completely ooc to fit the stroy.
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Post by CinderpeltFan on Dec 11, 2018 8:50:22 GMT -5
I like it a lot.
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