Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 16:48:51 GMT -5
So since Mapleshade Topic are threading at the moment, I've decided to disprove a few headcanons I've seen popping up in an effect to start demonizing Mapleshade's victims. Which is in the form, of thinking some characters were lying. One I've seen in this very forum, claiming Ravenwing faked the Omen. And another one, which I only saw recently elsewhere and a new headcanon as far I'm aware: Appledusk killed Birchface on purpose.
Here are some quotes to disprove those:
Ravenwing: He only started to suspect something was when Rabbitfur, an elder, challenged the kits to a pouncing game, which they failed at due to their Riverclan blood. Causing Mapleshade to leave camp.
Mapleshade takes the kits to the Riverclan border, where they swim around and talk to Appledusk. Which is where Ravenwing see this encounter.
Where he then reveals the Omen:
Then-
While Mapleshade was out, Rabbitfur had literally just told Ravenwing what happened. Up until now, Ravenwing had no reason to suspect Mapleshade's kits. However when only he hears from Rabbitfur that very day and seeing for himself did he figure it out. So Ravenwing making the Omen up doesn't make any sense. Ravenwing had literally just been told this information a few hours ago at most, maybe not even that. And while he was having the conversation with Mapleshade, he was still figuring out the detils.
Ravenwing simply didn't have to time to make up this entire fake Omen.
- Ravenwing wasn't doing it out of any ill-tent. He didn't want to fully do it, even sympathy/guilty. But he had to preform his duty because Starclan had given him the Omen. If he'd been lying about the omen in order to get the purposefully in trouble, he wouldn't feel sad.
Appledusk:
He wasn't lying when it was an accident.
The weakest evidence: Appledusk speaking to Mapleshade at the Gathering. However they are in private, so Appledusk is much less likely to lie.
However just before this- Appledusk reveals Birchface's death has caused patrol to double, preventing him from sneaking out to see Mapleshade. Appledusk is trying to keep a low-profile. So killing Birchface purposefully makes no sense. He'd been drawing way too much attention to himself, getting no benefit from but actually a problem.
Also, Appledusk just doesn't take battles or training seriously. So he's not the type of cat to ever kill an enemgy in battle for the 'glory' of it:
Appledusk is clearly not invested in the Sunningrocks battle. To point he even calls his own Clan "Mousebrained" becuase of it. So definitely no motive to purposefully Birchface.
To prove this attitude towards battles more, Appledusk puts his Pregnant Mate's safety over his apprentice training. Despite the fact, she's barely pregant yet and would still be very capable of helping with the training.
Here are some quotes to disprove those:
Ravenwing: He only started to suspect something was when Rabbitfur, an elder, challenged the kits to a pouncing game, which they failed at due to their Riverclan blood. Causing Mapleshade to leave camp.
Rabbitfur had to dodge out of the way to avoid being squashed. “Watch out!” He gave his chest
fur a couple of licks. “Birchface managed to pounce without flattening any cats,” he grunted.
Mapleshade couldn’t listen to any more. She jumped out, dislodging Patchkit, who rolled over
with a squawk, and trotted into the clearing. “Perhaps they take after me, Rabbitfur,” she meowed. “I
can’t pounce, either.”
The old tom narrowed his eyes. “You’re not that bad,” he rasped. “I can’t believe any kit of
Birchface would be heavy-footed as a badger.” He glanced at Petalkit, who was licking the paw that
had caught on the stick.
The blood was roaring in Mapleshade’s ears now. “I will not have my kits judged before they
have even begun their warrior training!” she hissed. “Patchkit, come here! We’re going for a walk in
the forest!”
- Chapter 3.
fur a couple of licks. “Birchface managed to pounce without flattening any cats,” he grunted.
Mapleshade couldn’t listen to any more. She jumped out, dislodging Patchkit, who rolled over
with a squawk, and trotted into the clearing. “Perhaps they take after me, Rabbitfur,” she meowed. “I
can’t pounce, either.”
The old tom narrowed his eyes. “You’re not that bad,” he rasped. “I can’t believe any kit of
Birchface would be heavy-footed as a badger.” He glanced at Petalkit, who was licking the paw that
had caught on the stick.
The blood was roaring in Mapleshade’s ears now. “I will not have my kits judged before they
have even begun their warrior training!” she hissed. “Patchkit, come here! We’re going for a walk in
the forest!”
- Chapter 3.
Mapleshade takes the kits to the Riverclan border, where they swim around and talk to Appledusk. Which is where Ravenwing see this encounter.
Suddenly a dark shape blocked the path. Mapleshade looked up and met Ravenwing’s searching
blue gaze. The medicine cat glanced down at the kits. “What were they doing in the river?” he asked.
Mapleshade’s paws started to tingle. “Did . . . did you see them?” she whispered.
Ravenwing nodded. “I saw everything. What’s going on, Mapleshade?”
-Chapter 3.
blue gaze. The medicine cat glanced down at the kits. “What were they doing in the river?” he asked.
Mapleshade’s paws started to tingle. “Did . . . did you see them?” she whispered.
Ravenwing nodded. “I saw everything. What’s going on, Mapleshade?”
-Chapter 3.
Ravenwing didn’t move out of the way. “I’ve seen an omen, Mapleshade,” he murmured. “I
wonder if you know anything about it?”
There was something in his voice that made Mapleshade’s fur prick. “Why would I know anything
about an omen? I’m not a medicine cat.”
Ravenwing stared at her without blinking. “A tiny stream appeared in my den, in a place where no
stream has run before. It carried with it three pieces of water reed.” He swept his paw over the
ground as if he was tracing the path of the rivulet. “Water reed doesn’t grow in ThunderClan
territory,” he went on. “It doesn’t belong inside our boundaries. Do you understand?”
-Chapter 3.
wonder if you know anything about it?”
There was something in his voice that made Mapleshade’s fur prick. “Why would I know anything
about an omen? I’m not a medicine cat.”
Ravenwing stared at her without blinking. “A tiny stream appeared in my den, in a place where no
stream has run before. It carried with it three pieces of water reed.” He swept his paw over the
ground as if he was tracing the path of the rivulet. “Water reed doesn’t grow in ThunderClan
territory,” he went on. “It doesn’t belong inside our boundaries. Do you understand?”
-Chapter 3.
“Birchface is not the father of these kits, is he?
Rabbitfur told me what happened today, how they showed no signs of being able to stalk or pounce
like him. And don’t tell me that they take after you instead,” he added, cutting Mapleshade off as she
opened her mouth. “You tread as lightly as any ThunderClan warrior.” He looked past her, at the
river splashing beyond the shade of the trees. “I watched your kits swim in that river as if they were
fish. I think these kits were fathered by a RiverClan cat. Appledusk, I’d guess, judging by the color of
their fur and by the way he spoke to you when he brought Patchkit back.”
-Chapter 3.
Rabbitfur told me what happened today, how they showed no signs of being able to stalk or pounce
like him. And don’t tell me that they take after you instead,” he added, cutting Mapleshade off as she
opened her mouth. “You tread as lightly as any ThunderClan warrior.” He looked past her, at the
river splashing beyond the shade of the trees. “I watched your kits swim in that river as if they were
fish. I think these kits were fathered by a RiverClan cat. Appledusk, I’d guess, judging by the color of
their fur and by the way he spoke to you when he brought Patchkit back.”
-Chapter 3.
While Mapleshade was out, Rabbitfur had literally just told Ravenwing what happened. Up until now, Ravenwing had no reason to suspect Mapleshade's kits. However when only he hears from Rabbitfur that very day and seeing for himself did he figure it out. So Ravenwing making the Omen up doesn't make any sense. Ravenwing had literally just been told this information a few hours ago at most, maybe not even that. And while he was having the conversation with Mapleshade, he was still figuring out the detils.
Ravenwing simply didn't have to time to make up this entire fake Omen.
“You have told me plenty,” Ravenwing responded, and there was sadness in his sky-colored eyes.
“The truth must come out.”
“Please don’t say anything!” Mapleshade begged. “These are ThunderClan’s kits!”
“They are half RiverClan,” Ravenwing corrected, his voice as hard as ice. “Our Clanmates
deserve to know. I’m sorry, Mapleshade. Sorry for you, but even sorrier for these kits. They will end
up suffering for the lies that you have told.”
“The truth must come out.”
“Please don’t say anything!” Mapleshade begged. “These are ThunderClan’s kits!”
“They are half RiverClan,” Ravenwing corrected, his voice as hard as ice. “Our Clanmates
deserve to know. I’m sorry, Mapleshade. Sorry for you, but even sorrier for these kits. They will end
up suffering for the lies that you have told.”
Appledusk:
He wasn't lying when it was an accident.
The weakest evidence: Appledusk speaking to Mapleshade at the Gathering. However they are in private, so Appledusk is much less likely to lie.
She felt Appledusk stiffen beneath his pelt. “It was an accident,” he growled. “I never meant for him to fall into the river.” - Chapter 1.
However just before this- Appledusk reveals Birchface's death has caused patrol to double, preventing him from sneaking out to see Mapleshade. Appledusk is trying to keep a low-profile. So killing Birchface purposefully makes no sense. He'd been drawing way too much attention to himself, getting no benefit from but actually a problem.
“It’s been too long. I waited for you at the sycamore tree every night, but you never came.”
The tom’s breath warmed the back of her neck. “I know,” he purred. “But since the battle, we’ve
doubled our border patrols, even after dark. I can’t cross the river without being spotted.” He took a
step back, and Mapleshade felt a rush of cold air on her pelt. “I’ll try to get across at new moon.
Things might have calmed down by then.”
The tom’s breath warmed the back of her neck. “I know,” he purred. “But since the battle, we’ve
doubled our border patrols, even after dark. I can’t cross the river without being spotted.” He took a
step back, and Mapleshade felt a rush of cold air on her pelt. “I’ll try to get across at new moon.
Things might have calmed down by then.”
Also, Appledusk just doesn't take battles or training seriously. So he's not the type of cat to ever kill an enemgy in battle for the 'glory' of it:
(Appledusk) “But Sunningrocks has always made our Clans a little mouse-brained.” - Chapter 1.
“Why don’t I spring at you to show him how it’s done?” asked a voice. An orange she-cat slipped into the clearing. Mapleshade’s hackles bristled. Can’t Reedshine let Appledusk do anything on his
own?
Appledusk went to meet his Clanmate and rubbed his cheek against hers. “I’m not letting you do
anything,” he mewed. “Think of our kits!”
Reedshine glanced at her belly, barely swollen beneath her pelt. “I’m not sick!” she protested. “I know you’re not,” meowed Appledusk. “But our kits are too precious to risk Perchpaw injuring
you by mistake!” - Chapter 8.
own?
Appledusk went to meet his Clanmate and rubbed his cheek against hers. “I’m not letting you do
anything,” he mewed. “Think of our kits!”
Reedshine glanced at her belly, barely swollen beneath her pelt. “I’m not sick!” she protested. “I know you’re not,” meowed Appledusk. “But our kits are too precious to risk Perchpaw injuring
you by mistake!” - Chapter 8.