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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 22:30:17 GMT -5
They're basically just trying to justify being a jerk at that point. I agree, they probably have a god complex.
And there's perhaps a sadistic streak too. I watched the video and Idk how you can even think of ever lifting a finger on a little baby as a part of 'child training' or any other reason.
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Post by Gяαч Sкч on Apr 14, 2018 0:30:42 GMT -5
I just finished the video. It sounds 100% exactly like the website I saw all of those things on. Sad that people use the bible to justify things like this. It is sick.
And what makes me even more sad is that when I was little, I used to have friends who's parents brought them up similarly. I don't know if they were quiverfull or followed Bill Gothard, but some of their behavior sounds similar to their teachings. They didn't have a lot of kids, but they were very strict with the two they had. They were either homeschooled, or passed around from homeschooling groups or small, private Christian schools. The outside world was sinful, and they weren't allowed to dress in certain clothes or watch/listen to anything that was deemed sinful. They could only listen to Christian approved music or VHS tapes approved by their parents. They were expected to do manual labor and obey everything their parents told them to, and if they disobeyed they would be beaten with switches. It is sad to think maybe there was a bit of an influence there.
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Post by Hawkbreath of WindClan on Apr 14, 2018 1:31:19 GMT -5
This might be a little off topic but, I went to a Christian school up until the end of 5th grade and then I switched to a public school. It was a major culture shock. But shielding your kids from everything that is deemed sinful is almost near impossible. The only thing you can do is raise them with good morals so they can have free will like God intended (and no I don't mean you can do whatever you want without consequences and you just keep doing things and say your sorry to God but keep doing it, no). Kids are going to be exposed to bad things at some point in their life and if that's not until they are 18, how do you expect them to handle that? Public school helped me understand where other people stand in life and how they see and treat the world. It helps you to know how to help people whether they believe in God or not. God tells us to be kind to our neighbors so that means we need to treat everyone with the same amount of kindness that we would want someone to treat us with. He wants us to love like He loves. Even to treat people who hate us with kindness. God never said to SUBMIT to being treated horribly. No.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 21:12:32 GMT -5
Is it a sin that one of the few songs I can fully sing from memory right now is Be Prepared from the Lion King
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 22:43:06 GMT -5
I saw this meme and thought of you guys. Also, I realized just now that I asked if I could ask y’all some questions... months ago... and I just forgot to come back and post. I’m almost as bad at checking threads as I am at checking pms. Anyway... To give context, I was raised atheist basically. My grandparents and stuff are Christian Lite™️ but don’t really do anything with it, so when I was first learning about Christianity, I was just kind of given Veggie Tales and Bible Camp, and expected to go along with it. Sometimes my consellors and other people would berate me for not having faith, but I never really learned how to have faith, if that makes sense? I was wondering if y’all could explain what faith means/how you came to find it. I’ve been interested in Christianity lately but there’s some sort of block there. Maybe because I was never raised with faith and old habits die hard (not saying you have to be raised to be Christian; I just mean I was never really given any proper resources about it so I never learned about it, if that makes sense. I don’t know if I’ll ever convert or go anywhere with religion, as I’m a bad person lol, but I have to admit the interest is genuinely there, I just feel like the ship has left for me? Like it’s too late to find faith or that it doesn’t exist in me. I hope that doesn’t sound condescending or making you guys out to be... indoctrined into it anything. I think faith and religion is a beautiful thing but I don’t really understand it because I have never experienced it. Y’all are all very educated and smart with Christianity and I respect you, so I would never want to cause offence.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 0:51:28 GMT -5
Dang... We're so ripped...
My faith story huh? (and nah no offense taken)
So I was kinda raised like you were. Catholic LITE with extra splenda. I come from a long line of Catholics (my ancestors are a mixed of indigenous South Americans and Spaniards), but somewhere along the road there was distance between the more religious folk and the more secular TM folk and my parents sprang from the secular TM folk. They initially couldn't defend the faith if they tried and my dad soon stopped going to church. For me faith started small. One day my grandmother from my mom side was in town. My mom got really bad pains in her stomach so she and my dad went to the hospital (it apparently ended being flatulance but ALL THE SAME they went) and during that night I was left alone with my grandmother and she taught me the rosary. She also from that point started telling me what little she knew about the faith. I remember first learning about Mary from her (Ive heard her name before but I didn't know WHO she was) and also a few saints. She told me about the Miracle of the Sun at Fatima and about the three children that saw it and Mary. I was like 6 at the time.
So that was the seed I guess. Also we had a church bookstore where sometimes my parents would be like 'hey let me buy you a random book to keep you busy during the day.' So they bought me a children's Bible and a little book on female saints for girls. I read that as well as the little books my grandma would buy me when I was alone in my room, and while I never really understood the stories of the Bible back then, and they were very simplified, I was able to just get my feet wet. What really impressed upon me though was the lives of the saints. How far would you go for True Love? How far would you go for what you believe is true? Would you love your accuser, save your murderer, and ask for suffering unbearable so that the damned on earth may some day be accepted into heaven? In there I kinda received my axiom for all of life: You are not your ideas, you are not what you were born into, you are not what you have done, you are not what you do, you are the precious one of God. That little pamphlet was no joke man XD Some of the stories of the Saints were downright tragic, but for some reason, also very inspiring. Love yourself, love your neighbor, but above all love God. Not all of them were born 'perfect' some of them were the worst people out there before they gave it all up. They were my window into what a Christian was supposed to be. Also at the time I started getting a lot of nightmares and so my mom halfheartedly suggested I start praying the rosary, so I did and the nightmares stopped. And that's how my prayer life came into fruition. I was like eight at the time.
And all these things were great and all, but they only enforced my faith after I saw God in my life. I started to believe there was a God because He would answer almost all my prayers in some way even if it wasn't the way I wanted. And I'd rather not say all of what I prayed for because that's kinda personal to me... But they were little things at first... Like "God please make it snow this year it'll be my one consolation through the pain" (and I lived in las Vegas where it almost never snows). And then I went (albeit when I was a bit older than most CUZ MY MOM FORGOT TO ENROLL ME) to prepare for receiving the Eucharist at this one sunday school. But they seemed to almost speak my language. We got text books, we had exams, we had quizzes, we had projects. Sometimes the priests would come in and help out too by doing mini presentations. Eventually I started seeing more miracles and more miracles, meeting people who have known God in a deeper way than I couldn't ever imagine. Hearing more miracles, more people who have seen God work in their lives in very big ways. I know people who work for the miracle investigations in the Vatican and I know of people who have helped them. I know of people who have met living Saints, and I've met people who I believe will become Saints. More and more and more and more. Eventually in high school I guess you can say I decided that miracles were my foundation, but I wanted structure, I wanted to know what I believed and why (at a level that was greater than your average Sunday Schooler). And when I want answers I have a tendency to obsess until I find them even if I have to find them alone. So I would listen to lectures, read various books about Christianity, other religions, and atheism, watch debates, see documentaries, etc etc. Trying to challenge myself, and my beliefs over and over and over again. Eventually what I once saw as people who had arguments that I initially thought had unanswerable accusations turned out to be really lacking, and I would get bored and move on to the next challenger.
Im currently challenging myself, to make extra sure, by studying Chemistry, Philosophy, dabbling in biology, and taking a world classics course. I also never tire of listening to debates, and never tire of praying (I have a lot of people who need the help too). I joke that Im perpetually unsatisfied with everything, but it's true. I want to know the source of what is true and beautiful and, as implied by Aristotle, that's God.
Anyways thats me o3o
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 9:29:18 GMT -5
I know I don’t chat here much anymore but I thought I’d share my faith story.
I grew up Mormon and still am. My parents are converts to the church, so they were a bit different on how they raised us mostly do to cultural things they held onto from their non-religious lives- like my dad still watches soccer on sundays and they never did the whole Christmas play thing when we were kids. I could tell that while my mom diligently has daily scripture study with us, some days she would just sit there and jokingly say, “I have no idea what this chapter meant, any ideas?” But like, that was fun for me and my siblings. We didn’t see our parents as religious scholars who would shut us down if we said something wrong, we saw them as imperfect people just like us who were trying their best to teach us what little they knew- and it encouraged us to learn things for ourselves. I mean, sure, there were times where I really wished my mom or Dad could answer a really troubling question for me, but at the end of the day I was able to increase my own personal testimony because of it.
And that’s what’s grown my faith over the years I think- thinking for myself and seeking God to find answers. In the Mormon community i grew up in, i was raised to learn- from scriptures, from others, or wherever, really, and study and pray to find out if it is true for ourselves. I didn’t have the strongest faith when I was a kid, but whatever little faith- long lasting faith- that I had was gained in personal scripture study, pondering, serving others and experiences where I’ve called upon God. It is great and all to listen to lots of people who have great faith, but looking back those feelings of faith were momentary and increased or ebbed according to how strong the faith of the other people around me were. Faith that I gained by finding things out for myself- and over time learning if it’s true- is what’s kept me going. Is what’s kept me in the church. Is what’s kept my belief in God alive.
Now, I don’t want to seem like the community i grew up in- and the various ones I’m around now- negatively impacted me. I grew up around mostly good, humble Mormons who tried their best to practice what they preach and do good to all people, and they positively impacted my life. They have taught me and continue to teach me new and interesting things about how to strengthen my own faith and how we can better strengthen each other. What I’m trying to say is- we need both people around us to support us in what we do AND we need out own personal drive to find faith. When I went away for college and suddenly my “social” faith was gone and my personal faith was completely on me I had to strengthen the little personal faith I had in order to keep myself afloat- especially since a lot of people I had grown up with in church ended their journey in the gospel when I decided to continue it.
So overal, I’d say my faith story is a finding my own personal faith slowly and over time- cause I’ve learned that while social faith is good and needed, personal faith can’t be affected by others as easily. And I try to protect and increase that personal faith to the best of my ability.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 10:14:55 GMT -5
Eyyy Aquinas my boi
Nice to hear all of yalls concepts and stories of faith as well though!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 11:50:53 GMT -5
Hello I'm kinda torn between Christianity Atheism, and Buddhism. I'm not sure which path to take.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 17:50:44 GMT -5
Hello I'm kinda torn between Christianity Atheism, and Buddhism. I'm not sure which path to take. Heyo Well, as a Christian I would advocate you take the Christian path lol The subject matter is rather complex so I wouldn't know a good starting point without knowing what exactly is tearing you in each direction. But if there are any questions or objections you have in particular dont feel shy, and we will help you as best we can. If you want to hear our take on the three different principles of belief in depth we can also do that from historical, philosophical, or a spiritual level. There's a way to get to Christianity through logic from ground zero, but I will warn you that will take some time to plough through XD C.S. Lewis does one of the better jobs at doing it however. You are welcome to chat here as long as you need too ^^
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Post by Splintercat on May 22, 2018 23:08:48 GMT -5
Phineas and Ferb is Biblically accurate
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on May 22, 2018 23:42:43 GMT -5
Phineas and Ferb is Biblically accurate well hello to you too trey
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Post by Splintercat on May 23, 2018 17:34:10 GMT -5
Phineas and Ferb is Biblically accurate well hello to you too trey Sorry, I thought that was an important thing to start off with. Hello, everyone
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on May 24, 2018 10:52:40 GMT -5
what have you been up to? i dont think ive had a real conversation with you in months
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on May 26, 2018 23:14:31 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2018 13:19:16 GMT -5
Lol Shad that's literally so accurate and hilarious xD Quality meme
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#add8e6
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Warrior Fanatic
*reads books in a corner*
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on May 27, 2018 16:18:11 GMT -5
So true!
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 9:26:56 GMT -5
please pray for my cat simba. he went outside yesterday morning without eating, and never came home. i'm worried sick about him and i don't know what to do. please pray that he returns home safely.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 11:15:33 GMT -5
Praying!
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 11:58:05 GMT -5
i found him! i'm so glad. we were just about to go out on a walk looking for him, when my mom decided to call the neighbors again to ask if they had seen him. as she was talking, i decided to walk around the outside of the house again to look for him. then out of no where he ran across the path. i'm so glad i found him. i brought him inside and he's eating now. i just wonder where he was, because it isn't like him to disappear like that especially on an empty tummy. he and his brothers are always at the door around meal time waiting to get in so when he vanished into thin air all day yesterday, all night, and all of this morning i was really worried something happened to him.
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Post by Splintercat on May 29, 2018 15:22:00 GMT -5
what have you been up to? i dont think ive had a real conversation with you in months I’ve just been busy and tired. Summer’s rolling around, though, so I’m winding down. How’ve you been?
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 16:18:40 GMT -5
Glad he came back home, Twister!
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Post by Smokyyy on Jun 11, 2018 12:07:32 GMT -5
Anyone else here WELS Lutheran??
WELS= Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod
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Post by Smokyyy on Jun 11, 2018 12:20:00 GMT -5
Here is another Band: Koine
oh
there is also a youtube account caled "Time of Grace" run by I think 4 pastors
they basically cover everyday situations and what God says about _. Its really helpful for people who struggle with certain problems that burden them.
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#add8e6
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Jun 11, 2018 16:28:58 GMT -5
Smokyyy Nope. I've honestly never heard of WELS.
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Post by Snowflake on Jun 11, 2018 19:20:38 GMT -5
hey yall! How is everyone? I am kind of in a hole but I am working out of it.
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Post by Rανєη'ѕ ƑƖιgнт on Jun 11, 2018 21:02:55 GMT -5
hey yall! How is everyone? I am kind of in a hole but I am working out of it. I'm alright, if not a bit tired. We all have our rough spots, but God and our siblings in Christ will help us through.
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#ca55a0
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Rανєη'ѕ ƑƖιgнт
Rebel Queen
Art by Nicoletta Baldari
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Post by Rανєη'ѕ ƑƖιgнт on Jun 11, 2018 21:03:41 GMT -5
Could you guys pray for my grandma? She has dementia and isn't doing the best.
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Post by Smokyyy on Jun 11, 2018 21:42:19 GMT -5
Smokyyy Nope. I've honestly never heard of WELS. Huh. I see where you're coming from being that Catholic is I think the biggest Christian demonination? Correct me if im wrong. And considering Lutherans make up a small part of the spectrum. Frankly im not at all suprised. Just curious if anyone is, because at the moment Im the only one XD.
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Post by Rainstorm1026 on Jun 11, 2018 22:17:53 GMT -5
Of course! I know how you feel. My grandma had something similar after she got an infection.
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