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Post by farside on Dec 6, 2017 13:57:10 GMT -5
So pretty much all I have so far is the plot. {I'm going to go ahead and apologize for any mistakes in grammar because I kind of just threw it together}
So it would start out with a clan that followed a leader who was very faithful to Starclan. But the clan themselves starts to loose faith in Starclan because bad things keep happening. So something happens, maybe its just a progressive loss of faith and the clan follows the deputy (Who would become their new leader) to another place and they become more of a tribe of sorts. Maybe another cat comes along and starts telling the cats about his tribe that something happened to. Or the deputy starts seeing this cat in his dreams and at first thinks that the cat is from Starclan and gets his hopes up. Then he founds out that the cat is not from Starclan and thinks he is seeing things. So he goes to the medicine cat and finds out that the medicine cat has seen him too. And the cat in the visions lead them to their new home.
Other things: - It is going to be a semi-literate roleplay - When the clan develops into the tribe there is going to be more than one medicine cat/healer. There will be a head healer and then two or three other healers and that will include apprentices. - There will be warriors and hunters. Hunters will learn how to fight and warriors will learn how to hunt but they will have main jobs. Lets say if their apprenticeship is 6 months then maybe they spend the first two or three learning how to hunt and fight then they spend their remaining months in their specialty. - And then there would be a deputy that was second to the leader. There would also be the head warrior(s) and the head hunter(s). - The leader would rule/lead with his/her mate and the same with the deputy
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Post by zero on Dec 6, 2017 16:10:35 GMT -5
hello! I would be very happy to help. I've been looking into getting more active into clans again. Your plot sparked my interest. Hopefully, I'm not overstepping my bounds with suggestions.
I like your leader idea. Maybe the leader is leading the clan to a new territory. The leader still believes starclan wants them to continue. Just one more day. However, the clan is tired of traveling and sick of hearing empty promises. The deputy decides it would be best if they stop and form a territory here. Maybe the leader and a few other clan members leave?
This could be were the plot starts? I think it would be fun to rp the clan as it slowly changes it's ranks to become more tribe-like. The deputy, now dubbed leader by some, has only one life and is trying to lead the clan. He could ask for help from his close friends/cats he looks up to and they become the head warrior/head hunter. The clan could have trouble hunting without worrying about larger predators, so they start to form ranks. One cat would watch the land while the others hunted. The medicine cat finds themselves tired from trying to collect herbs in a foreign and silently barren place, so they start to recruit more clanmates to help.
Oooo maybe someone discovers an old cave or something that use to be were an ancient tribe connected with their ancestors. A kit or young apprentice could discover this and everyone is just assuming they are playing a game, or the young cat wants to keep their new playmates secret.
Sorry, that was a lot.
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Post by farside on Dec 6, 2017 16:27:26 GMT -5
Not at all overstepping! That's why I created the page is because I need someone or people to kind of talk it out with.
I think to have them traveling is a good idea. After they argue about it those who still believe in star clan can go on. We would have to have a reason for them to have left the old territory like two legs or a fire or something.
My idea was to start the rp during the transition, I just wasn't exactly sure where. Those are all good ideas we would just have to figure out somewhere where there would be large predators that were a threat but not ridiculously big to where they wouldn't be able to fight them realistically.
That's a good idea, probably a young apprentice.
No its good. There is still a lot to be figured out.
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Post by farside on Dec 6, 2017 16:32:58 GMT -5
So do you think the RP should start while the cats are traveling or as the cats have just found their home and the leader and his groupies have left? Or I guess they could have decided to camp out temporarily because a queen is about to deliver kits and when its time to leave there are those that want to stay...?
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Post by zero on Dec 6, 2017 16:36:56 GMT -5
I didn't want to step too far away from your image. ^^
I'm thinking a fire/storm. Some clanmates, who lost cats close to them, could be mad StarClan didn't warn them.
Do you have an idea on what territory you would like them to settle in? This might give us an idea to what predators they might be facing.
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Post by zero on Dec 6, 2017 16:39:22 GMT -5
I think we should start after the leader and his group has left, because no one will really want to rp cats who will be leaving. Well, they might but not many. I'm thinking it would be nice to start when the clan is setting up the temp. camp. Having a queen near kitting, elders, and young apprentices would all be reasons to stop. A elder could have recently died or a queen started to kit.
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Post by farside on Dec 6, 2017 17:02:01 GMT -5
I was kind of thinking like a Taiga or Savanna. Originally I was thinking of a tropical forest which might be cool but it also might be difficult.
True true. It is a lot of work to make a cat that you're not going to play. We could have patrols scouting out areas for a permanent camp and then building if necessary.
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Post by zero on Dec 6, 2017 17:15:01 GMT -5
I will admit, tropical forests are hard to work with. There is just so much to include. Plus, I feel like people get overwhelmed with tropical forests. Though they do have a wide verity of life and provide an interesting landscape. For both the Taiga and Savanna, snakes and large birds. The cats would be more out in the open in the savanna and be more hidden in the taiga. Plus, their temperatures would be different; fluffy cats vs sleek cats. I dunno. Which one is more interesting to you?
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Post by farside on Dec 6, 2017 17:32:47 GMT -5
I agree that's why I was kind of leaning away from a tropical forest I think it would be really cool but just not really practical.
I know, they are a lot alike. Lol.
I think the taiga. The savanna has a lot more big predators that the cats wouldn't be able to deal with I think. And with the taiga the cats would be bulkier. They'd have more muscle so it would make more sense that they could deal with bigger threats.
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Post by zero on Dec 6, 2017 17:35:17 GMT -5
Yup, yup. Sounds good. They could also hunt down bigger prey.
What else do we need to figure out?
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Post by farside on Dec 6, 2017 17:59:16 GMT -5
I will probably start to write the history/plot/background here in a second. But I guess we need a list.
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Post by farside on Dec 6, 2017 18:31:06 GMT -5
Territory Camp Prey/predator/herbs ? Any Traditions? (It might be cool to kind of figure those out while rping.)
I'm sure there's more but I'm completely blanking right now.
There is another thing. I want people's cats to have relationships with other peoples cats. I think it makes for a better rp. But I don't want people to feel intimidated by a claim-a-cat rp.
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Post by farside on Dec 6, 2017 18:44:02 GMT -5
Oh! a name is kind of important.
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Post by zero on Dec 6, 2017 20:32:20 GMT -5
Sorry for the poof.
Name will be tricky. I assume they will go by a clan name, at least in the beginning.
I can help with the territory, camp, and prey/predator/herbs. Though I do not have a full of idea of the territory or the camp. Are we aiming for a territory that is just taiga or are we going to maybe add some rocky, small mountains or tundra? I think it would be very fun to create traditions as we go. Like, the clan cats threw away all of the old traditions as they included StarClan.
There is actually a simple solution for that. I use to do it for my clans and some other people do it as well. On the form, just add a section for relations where people can say if they are open to some. Then, match open relations cats together. Similar age can be littermates. Similar color can be mother/daughter as an example. I hope I'm explaining this correctly.
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Post by farside on Dec 6, 2017 22:35:14 GMT -5
Its all good!
Yeah I was thinking they would go by a clan name at first I don't have any ideas for the clan name or tribe name.
I think a part of it can be some mountains or some tundra. Mostly taiga though. Maybe a river that has some rapids that runs into a lake. Maybe the camp is in a cave? Or in a clearing.
Yeah and I think that way those who join the clan can be a part of it.
That is a really good idea! and it did make sense.
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Post by zero on Dec 7, 2017 7:52:19 GMT -5
Maybe we will think of a clan name as we create the clan?
So, to combine ideas. The mountains can to be to the east. They aren't part of the territory, but the earth is really more rough and there are more rocks. Their camp could be a dip in the earth with rocks surrounding it to protect them. Like old Windclan camp but with rocks surrounding it. The lake can make up much of their southern border and maybe there is a large clear space around the shore of the lake. The river, with rapids, will feed into the lake. Does this sound good?
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Post by farside on Dec 7, 2017 8:23:05 GMT -5
That's kind of what I was thinking. I'm sure we will get an idea while we are creating it.
Yes! That sounds very good!
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Post by farside on Dec 7, 2017 8:43:59 GMT -5
{I'm using Owlstar and Pineclan right now as placeholders because I don't know what else to use. But I don't want the clan to be called Pineclan) So I'm trying to write the history. What if Owlstar is the one of the reasons the clan had stopped. She was badly hurt in the fire and need to rest for a few days. Then she dies and doesn't come back even though she has plenty of lives left.
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Post by zero on Dec 7, 2017 14:32:10 GMT -5
Sounds good! Maybe starclan promised if they move north, there wouldn't be any fires.
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Post by zero on Dec 7, 2017 16:19:27 GMT -5
Rough list based on rarity/how hard to catch PREY squirrels Chipmunks voles Lemming Snowshoe rabbits Hares fish (only in summer) Sparrows (only in summer) Fitches (only in summer) Crossbill bird Moles Crows* Mink* *Dangerous but could be eaten
Predators Owls Red Fox Golden eagle Bald eagle Wolves Lynx/Bobcat Wolverine Bear
Something Elk Moose Deer Goose
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Post by farside on Dec 8, 2017 11:28:28 GMT -5
That looks good! So I was trying to write a traditional history and every time I tried to write it, it was awful. So I kind of wrote it as a story from Wolftalon's(the deputy's) perspective this is what I have so far:
“FIRE!” The sudden screech through the air erupted Wolftalon from his slumber and brought him to his feet. Wh-what? The tom-cat thought to himself. A fire there couldn’t be? There was no sign! And yet when he stepped out of the warrior’s den he discovered the flames that surrounded the camp. “Where is Owlstar?” He called frantically searching and hoping that an answer would be given. Among the chaos he didn’t even seem to be heard. A flash of panic flooded Wolftalon as he realized that without Owlstar he would have to take charge during the crisis. “Alright” he said under his breath quickly under his breath trying to assemble a plan.
“Wolftalon!” Articsong called almost sounding relived. “What do we do? Where do go?” She questioned this time the panic in her voice was clear. “Why did this happen. Why didn’t Star-“
“I don’t know!” Wolftalon hissed. He wasn’t normally aggressive but under the current distances wonder why this happened was by far the least of his worries. “If we survive this then we can ask questions but there is no time now!” He snapped “Listen, I need you to gather the queens and kits and make sure that they get out of here. Assemble some apprentices and warriors to help you.” He instructed trying to force some calmness in his voice.
Articsong nodded and started to turn away but then stoped to ask, “But where do I take them?”
“S-“He paused unsure why. Something felt entirely wrong about going South. The same something was urging him towards a different direction. “North. I’ll find you. Just get them out of here.” He instructed “And Articsong” Wolftalon paused. The three words he wanted to say wouldn’t come out. She wasn’t his mate. He didn’t know if she felt the same way. He didn’t even think Articsong knew how he felt. He stood there stupidly with his mouth ajar. “Be safe” He called instead.
“You too” the she-cat replied with a half-smile as she turned away. And just like she disappeared into the chaos. The young deputy then searched for someone else he could trust with rescuing his people. “(NAME of warrior)” He called as he ran up to the tom cat. “I need you to make sure the elders get out of here. Take them North.” Wolftalon requested. “Assemble whatever help you need.” He called back as he ran off towards the apprentices’ den not waiting for a response from the warrior.
Wolftalon poked his head in to find a few young apprentices cowering together. “What are you doing in here!” He yelled making them cower even more. The deputy let out a sigh and rolled his eyes. “Look. Our home is on fire. I know. That’s scary.” He tried to speak with as much calmness in his voice as he could muster. “I know you’re scared. I’m scared. Terrified really. But I need your help.” He paused as the appreciates somehow seemed to be somewhat at ease. “I need you to go to the medicine-cat’s den and find (Medicine cat). He/she will need help gathering some herbs. There are going to be a lot of sick people when this is over” He felt the effects of the smoke in his own throat as it grew raspy. “Tell (medicine cat) that we are going North. And be safe” He called as the apprentices ran feeling pride that they were entrusted with such a task.
Wolftalon felt sick to his stomach. What were the actual chances of surviving this? Those apprentices could die. Or if they survive what of their parents? He shook the thoughts from his head as he exited the den. There was no time for that. He had to find Owlstar. He turned toward the leader’s den and froze. A tree branch had fallen in front of the den and blocked the entrance. If she was in there, she was stuck. The deputy stood blankly panicking, trying to think of a way to get in. Then he remembered.
There was a secret entrance Owlstar had told Wolftalon about. There was a tunnel she had found in her den that lead out into the forest. The deputy sprinted out of the camp which had nearly been cleared out. Wolftalon circled around to where the leaders den would be. He started searching for a tunnel. The flames felt as though they were growing hotter and the smoke growing thicker. He finally found a tunnel in the roots of a tree. He crawled through hoping that she had already made her escape. “Owlstar?” He called through a cough.
“Wo-Wolftalon?” A very raspy voice quietly reached him through the tunnel. “I’m here!” The deputy called back. It was extremely difficult to see through the smoke, but he found her. Owlstar was badly burned and had been trapped in the smoke-filled den for who knows how long.
“Come on. Lets go” Wolftalon muttered as he forced the leader to her paws and guided her through the tunnel. “The clan is waiting for us.” He me managed to get out despite his now throbbing throat. Hopefully.
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Post by farside on Dec 8, 2017 13:26:32 GMT -5
Sooooo. This is kind of what I have for an idea of how everything is gonna be laid out. Let me know if I'm forgetting something. I was wondering if it would be easier to make a joining page and then just explain the relationship thing on there? About History Rules Joining ---------- Camp Territory Weather/Season prey/predators ----- Traditions (TBD) ___clans warrior code (TBD) Plots News --- Allegiances -- Relationships Members --- Open relationship spots (?) -
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Post by zero on Dec 8, 2017 19:18:16 GMT -5
Sorry. Today was crazy. Looks like a good start. It is a bit long but it is nicely written.
The layout is in a good order. I would have the established relations after the allegiances, but have the open for relations cat list on the joining page. A joining page does keep things more neat, especially when the clan isn’t claim.
I can write out something tomorrow, if you need.
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Post by farside on Dec 8, 2017 19:27:48 GMT -5
No worries I completely understand!
Yeah I was thinking that it was pretty long xD . I may just make the really long thing into a short story and have a link to it or something. I have something else that is almost done instead.
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Post by zero on Dec 8, 2017 20:12:18 GMT -5
Maybe I can work on the herbs? I assume we want herbs local to the region, but it is okay if we want to go normal herb path.
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Post by farside on Dec 8, 2017 20:38:26 GMT -5
I would like for them to be local to the region. If there is something we can't find we can make something up or use normal herbs for a substitute.
I guess I am going to do a normal clan allegiance and then switch it over to the tribe when the clan starts developing those roles.
Oh! And Wolftalon is going to be the leader obviously but were there any positions that you wanted to reserve?
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Post by zero on Dec 8, 2017 20:47:15 GMT -5
Okay. I'll start making a list.
I think this would be easiest to start clan.
I would like to claim Head Hunter, if that is alright. I'm not sure if she would start out deputy or just develop into the Head Hunter.
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Post by zero on Dec 8, 2017 21:50:58 GMT -5
Not listed by rarity. FINISHED
Garlic - Prevents infection by rolling in a patch or sleeping on the leaves. Easily identifiable by smell.
Wort - Helps colds and stomach problems if the petals are chewed and eaten. May also lift cat's spirit. Do not offer more than a few petals. Commonly a tall plant with narrow leaves and yellow flowers.
Chamomile - Sooth sore throats if petals are chewed and swallowed. White flower bunches found in the spare sections of the forest.
Stinging nettles - The seeds are eaten by a cat who's swallowed poison so they will through up. The leaves and stems are chewed into a poultice for a wound. The stems develop sharp 'fur' which will hurt if not removed. Tall stalks of these plants with jagged leaves grow at the tree line of the lake.
Cobwebs - Old spider webs applied to wound to absorb blood. Appear most anywhere.
Tormentil - Its root can be chewed and applied on wound for treating all wounds and extracting poison. Grows in wild clumps near the mountains. Best time to harvest is when it's yellow flowers blossom.
Raspberry leaves - Ease pain and slows bleeding if leaves are eaten. Useful during kitting. Grow deep in the forest and protected by thorns. The leaves are thorn free.
Aronia - Black berries eaten to help digestion and breathing. Bushes found near the lake.
Dill - Steams are eaten to help the mother's milk to come and to calm a cat. Tall stalks found sparingly where the forest meets the mountain.
Clover - Eat leaves and stems to cure coughs and relieve joint pain. Found in large, green patches in the forest.
Willow - Chew bark to relieve pain and eat leaves to stop vomiting. Trees found near the lake.
Wintergreen - Chew leaves and use the mush to put on the wound to draw out poison and prevent infection. Small plant with bright red berries are found near the mountains.
Lamb's Ear - Leaves can be eaten to give a cat strength. A low-lying, soft plant found near the mountains.
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Post by farside on Dec 8, 2017 22:44:43 GMT -5
The list is awesome! You want her to be head hunter and not the deputy/second in command/whatever its gonna be called? Then I think she can just be like Wolftalon's advisor and then develop into the head hunter. And then she would still be his advisor Alright so this is what I have for the About section. I was going to add more to the last part but I'm not really sure what. Pineclan was a normal clan until they were struck with tragedy. After the fire, the clan traveled for a while before they decided they had to stop. Once they stopped their leader, Owlstar, had passed away and didn’t come back, despite having plenty of lives left, then clan had a decision to make. Most of them chose to stay and make a home for themselves. A small group decided to leave in search for Starclan.
The clan made their home in a taiga forest. They threw out all their old traditions and life styles that they once held dearly and are now trying to find their way creating a new way of life in the meantime.
Pineclan cats are generally larger than normal cats. They also have thicker fur to survive the harsh chilly winds in the taiga. The cats have to adapt their ways of fighting and hunting in order to deal with the larger prey and predators.
And then for the history. It is still kind of long. Pineclan used to live peacefully tucked away in the heart of a forest. They cherished the warrior code and lived strictly by it. This was mainly due to their leader Owlstar who relentlessly placed her trust in Starclan. This period of serenity ended when a great fire struck the clan’s territory. The deputy at the time, Wolftalon, took charge and tried to ensure everyone’s escape from the camp. When the cats found each other after their escape they discover that many of their friends and family had been lost. When the clan was safe and out of the fire’s reach they tried to send out patrols to find their lost members. However, the clan knew the chances of finding anyone was unlikely and with the current state of their clan they couldn’t stay searching forever. The whole forest they had once known as home was ashes. There was no prey or herbs for the cats to support themselves. Therefore, Owlstar made the decision to move on. She assured the clan that Starclan would guide the cats to their new home however, almost all the cats had lost or were losing their faith in Starclan. They were angry that Starclan didn’t warn them about the fire and the cats hadn’t heard a word from them afterward.
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Post by farside on Dec 8, 2017 22:56:58 GMT -5
As for the name
Glacierclan Articclan Firclan Spruceclan Cedarclan Firclan
I don't really know. The clan name doesn't have to be perfect because it is not going to be that way forever >.<
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