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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 19:35:13 GMT -5
aight so we all know the Aristocats sucks and is a pretty bad (at the least mediocre) movie so I'm rewriting it to make it better some of the changes so far include changing most characters' personalities so they aren't one-dimensional stereotypes, setting it in the 70's instead of 1910, making the relationship between Duchess and O'Malley purely platonic, getting rid of characters who have no plot point as well as plot points that serve no purpose to the story (for example, the will subplot with the villain that was in the original is completely absent and the cats get lost due to a simple misunderstanding) and changing the sadly-named Scat Cat's name to Satchmo, among others that you can ask me about individually there are quite a few things I do need (such as a title better than"the Aristocats but now okay and not bad") though so please give me thoughts and ideas tagging Card against Humanity because they gave me the idea to write it and they've helped me with it anyway y'all help me Make Aristocats Great Again
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 19:36:39 GMT -5
☁︎ out of character ☁︎ please edit out the racism as well
☁︎ roleplay ☁︎
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Post by Shou-Lao the undying on Jul 15, 2017 19:39:01 GMT -5
are you writing an actual screenplay?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 19:40:17 GMT -5
☁︎ out of character ☁︎ please edit out the racism as well
☁︎ roleplay ☁︎ yeah that was one of the first things I wanted to do when I adapt things that's always the first thing to go. there will be no racist cats in any of my work be it comics or stories or whatever
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 19:41:13 GMT -5
are you writing an actual screenplay? no it's going to be like a book. there's going to be a lot of things in it a screenplay wouldn't properly get across
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Post by Card against Humanity on Jul 15, 2017 19:48:44 GMT -5
- focus more on O'Malley's relationship with the kittens.
- maybe keep the alley cats but make them less stereotypical and with unique personalities
-I think The Aristocats is an okay title as is, but I suck at coming up with titles
also I think this should just stay a fanfic rather then a book
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 19:54:16 GMT -5
- focus more on O'Malley's relationship with the kittens. - maybe keep the alley cats but make them less stereotypical and with unique personalities -I think The Aristocats is an okay title as is, but I suck at coming up with titles also I think this should just stay a fanfic rather then a book -yeah that was the best part of the movie honestly. he will be The Fun Uncle(TM) -I was planning to do this actually because one is a fluffy gray cat named Boris and I once had a fluffy gray cat named Boris so I want to turn that one into a tribute to him -the entire movie was probably made because of that pun -yeah I'm not going to make it an actual book, I'll put it in OTW or something. Disney has a mean copyright protection.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 19:54:19 GMT -5
oh my god, please do
do you have any ideas about the characters?
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Post by greene on Jul 15, 2017 20:03:24 GMT -5
i rly don't think it was that bad ??? but i'm interested to see how this turns out and yeah we could do w/o the racism at least
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 20:09:16 GMT -5
oh my god, please do do you have any ideas about the characters? -Duchess is very stoic and intimidating, having taught herself to be numb to feelings when her mate was run over by a car just after she told him she was pregnant. She's also a Norwegian Forest Cat which should give you an idea of her good self-defense and her strength. big stoic white molly cats are my aesthetic. -O'Malley is still a lovable rogue, but not as "tough" as before, he's much kinder now. he's also really short and lanky making him look really ridiculous next to MASSIVE DUCHESS. oh and he's gay now, and Scat Cat/Satchmo is his boyfriend -Marie has grown to be like her mother but somewhat worse, being somewhat sociopathic and lacks any sign of sympathy. She's also very antagonistic towards O'Malley. -Berlioz is now a tortoiseshell kitten named Babette. She lacks self-esteem because she's constantly compared to her champion of a father when she knows she isn't as good as him. she and Marie fight all the time -Toulouse is no longer rough and tough but a shy, sweet little kitten who looks up to O'Malley's bravery. he and O'Malley are the first to bond -the kids are now also a bit older than they were in the original. they also look up to O'Malley as an uncle and not a father. there's a lot more than that like Roquefort and the alley cats but I'll get to them later
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 20:23:18 GMT -5
oh my god, please do do you have any ideas about the characters? -Duchess is very stoic and intimidating, having taught herself to be numb to feelings when her mate was run over by a car just after she told him she was pregnant. She's also a Norwegian Forest Cat which should give you an idea of her good self-defense and her strength. big stoic white molly cats are my aesthetic. -O'Malley is still a lovable rogue, but not as "tough" as before, he's much kinder now. he's also really short and lanky making him look really ridiculous next to MASSIVE DUCHESS. oh and he's gay now, and Scat Cat/Satchmo is his boyfriend -Marie has grown to be like her mother but somewhat worse, being somewhat sociopathic and lacks any sign of sympathy. She's also very antagonistic towards O'Malley. -Berlioz is now a tortoiseshell kitten named Babette. She lacks self-esteem because she's constantly compared to her champion of a father when she knows she isn't as good as him. she and Marie fight all the time -Toulouse is no longer rough and tough but a shy, sweet little kitten who looks up to O'Malley's bravery. he and O'Malley are the first to bond -the kids are now also a bit older than they were in the original. they also look up to O'Malley as an uncle and not a father. there's a lot more than that like Roquefort and the alley cats but I'll get to them later oh
that is so much better then the original movie
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Post by indecisive on Jul 15, 2017 20:25:59 GMT -5
I didn't think there was anything wrong with the original movie. Also, if you don't mind me asking, how was it racist?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 20:28:44 GMT -5
I didn't think there was anything wrong with the original movie. Also, if you don't mind me asking, how was it racist? I thought it was extremely flimsy and predictable there's a Siamese alley cat who plays the piano with chopsticks and wears a cymbal on his head... yeah
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Post by greene on Jul 15, 2017 20:35:28 GMT -5
I didn't think there was anything wrong with the original movie. Also, if you don't mind me asking, how was it racist? I thought it was extremely flimsy and predictable there's a Siamese alley cat who plays the piano with chopsticks and wears a cymbal on his head... yeahalso the expression and the accent, if that's not enough. (the scene in question for anyone who doesn't know/hasn't seen it: which for the time period was probably fine and it'd be wrong to censor it given that's how some people thought back then and we have to acknowledge it, but there's absolutely no need for it in 2017. edit: fixed the link
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 21:04:00 GMT -5
☁︎ out of character ☁︎ indecisive everything that's wrong with the siamese cat - has buckteeth - has an accent - uses chopsticks to play the piano - puts a symbol on his head to mimic dǒulì hats. - his singing segment is just him shouting phrases like "fortune cookie" and "shanghai" ☁︎ roleplay ☁︎
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 21:46:59 GMT -5
i stopped listening after u called the aristocats a bad movie
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 4:03:23 GMT -5
i stopped listening after u called the aristocats a bad movie imo it's painfully mediocre. Every cat is pretty stereotypical (orange cats are tough, white cats are prissy, etc) and it doesn't work as a love story. It also has a lot of problems with setting anachronisms, the plot, and a ton of Big-Lipped Alligator Moments (moments that happen without warning, contribute nothing to the plot, and then mysteriously never mentioned again.) Also the geese are annoying.
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Post by tiger beetle on Jul 16, 2017 4:41:45 GMT -5
-O'Malley eats Roquefort (the mouse not literal cheese) -Duchess goes off to Paris -O'Malley and Berlioz go after her -Edgar is a cat and he's like "hey Duchess I'll make you rich" -some lady teaches Duchess to do rich cat things -Edgar ships O'Malley and Berlioz to Alaska -O'Malley gets rich and comes back -Edgar is trying to ship Duchess to Pittsburgh!!!!! -they fight Edgar on a train and ship him to Pittsburgh -rich cats oh wait these guys are there too
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 5:04:18 GMT -5
aight so here's everyone else, tagging @victorious because they asked about the character changes
-Most non-feline animals that were in the original have been removed from the plot, such as the geese and the horse, mainly because they weren't needed. If they do show up, they can't talk to cats, the only exception being Roquefort.
-Roquefort is a rat instead of a mouse in this version. He's very intelligent and has learned the cat language (which I still need a name for) for precisely one reason: He uses it to sweet talk his way out of being eaten. He sees cats as immensely stupid and not really worth his time for the most part and is the closest thing we have to a villain. (It's mentioned that the other rats often disliked his surly attitude, as rats are typically very pleasant creatures to one another and to other animals.)
-Napoleon and Lafayette are no longer comic relief dogs. They're a pair of snarling, vicious dogs that are an obstacle on the journey, and they're much more capable than their animated counterparts. They're now both much more agile Bloodhounds that are very similar (Napoleon just being an inch shorter) and can easily rip up a cat. About the only thing kept is that Napoleon is the leader and he's (she's? The cats can't tell their gender) the smarter of the two.
-Scat Cat, who has a rather unfortunate name, will be renamed Satchmo ("Satchmo Cat" was actually his original name in production). He still plays instruments, but it's quite different: He is one of few cats who understands the beauty of human music, and wants to bring the joys of it to the feline world with his street gang and his boyfriend O'Malley. Many cats don't understand his music and think it's just chaotic sounds, but some like it and are beginning to understand it. Instead of playing mysteriously cat-sized instruments, he and his gang make instruments from scraps and garbage (he plays a small metal drainage pipe by blowing over the top of it, for example). He's definitely taller and plumper than O'Malley, but Duchess is much taller than he.
-Satchmo's Gang is now like much more like an alley cat clowder than it was originally. Each cat has a separate personality: -Boris (the fluffy gray cat) is very gentlemanly and dignified, although he can be almost kitten-like when something gets him in the mood (I.e. a toy mouse or catnip). He's pretty ticked off about Satchmo's music idea and doesn't want to look so childish, but he does it anyway. It's also implied he's related to Satchmo somehow. (His "instrument" is a milk jug with rubber bands around it, which he plucks with his teeth to make noise.) -Cyril (the skinny Elton John-looking one) is a bit of a hippie like his animated counterpart, but it isn't obnoxious. He's quicker on the uptake than one might think and is actually the brains of the group. He's totally in on the whole music idea though and loves it like nothing else. (His "instrument" is a wood board with rubber bands strung onto it, and like Boris, he pluck the bands with his teeth to make noise.) - Peppo (the small brown one) is just renamed Peppy, and for good reason. He's now an excitable cat only 7 months old who was taken in by Satchmo and O'Malley when he was an orphan they found on the street, and he acts as their son. Easily the most childlike out of the lot because he is a child. (His "instrument" is a slinky spring that he wobbles and shakes to make noise.) - The Siamese? He doesn't exist. Siamese? What Siamese? No Siamese here nooo - Instead of that, O'Malley's sister is the fourth member of the Cat Gang. (She is, like O'Malley, a ginger tabby, and the only way one can tell them apart is by scent.)She's sort of the straight man of the group (although she has her moments) and isn't a fan of most pet cats, so she doesn't understand why O'Malley is helping them. She dealt with being compared to her mother all the time to he point of losing self-confidence as a kitten, and eventually comes around and helps Babette with her similar situation. (Her "instrument" is an old toy piano small enough that it can be comfortably pushed around to other places (it has wheels) that she plays by tapping the keys with her paws.)
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Post by Northstar3213 on Jul 16, 2017 9:40:24 GMT -5
Aristocats is too easy of a target. Try rewriting Felidae.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 9:45:06 GMT -5
Aristocats is too easy of a target. Try rewriting Felidae. do you want me to be banned
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Post by Northstar3213 on Jul 16, 2017 9:46:03 GMT -5
Aristocats is too easy of a target. Try rewriting Felidae. do you want me to be banned no. I'm just saying you could make good movies better
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 9:59:54 GMT -5
do you want me to be banned no. I'm just saying you could make good movies better can't do anything good or better, I can only make bad things somewhat okay and/or taint good things
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 10:20:34 GMT -5
Aristocats is too easy of a target. Try rewriting Felidae. felidae was already good tho, minus the cat sex
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Post by Northstar3213 on Jul 16, 2017 10:36:45 GMT -5
Aristocats is too easy of a target. Try rewriting Felidae. felidae was already good tho, minus the cat sex I didn't particularly care for the film honestly
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Post by Card against Humanity on Jul 16, 2017 10:53:41 GMT -5
TBH I think you could maybe keep the Siamese, but get rid of the racism and have them be nice/friendly, which would avert the typical Siamese stereotype in movies
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 11:02:14 GMT -5
aight so here's everyone else, tagging @victorious because they asked about the character changes -Most non-feline animals that were in the original have been removed from the plot, such as the geese and the horse, mainly because they weren't needed. If they do show up, they can't talk to cats, the only exception being Roquefort. -Roquefort is a rat instead of a mouse in this version. He's very intelligent and has learned the cat language (which I still need a name for) for precisely one reason: He uses it to sweet talk his way out of being eaten. He sees cats as immensely stupid and not really worth his time for the most part and is the closest thing we have to a villain. (It's mentioned that the other rats often disliked his surly attitude, as rats are typically very pleasant creatures to one another and to other animals.) -Napoleon and Lafayette are no longer comic relief dogs. They're a pair of snarling, vicious dogs that are an obstacle on the journey, and they're much more capable than their animated counterparts. They're now both much more agile Bloodhounds that are very similar (Napoleon just being an inch shorter) and can easily rip up a cat. About the only thing kept is that Napoleon is the leader and he's (she's? The cats can't tell their gender) the smarter of the two. -Scat Cat, who has a rather unfortunate name, will be renamed Satchmo ("Satchmo Cat" was actually his original name in production). He still plays instruments, but it's quite different: He is one of few cats who understands the beauty of human music, and wants to bring the joys of it to the feline world with his street gang and his boyfriend O'Malley. Many cats don't understand his music and think it's just chaotic sounds, but some like it and are beginning to understand it. Instead of playing mysteriously cat-sized instruments, he and his gang make instruments from scraps and garbage (he plays a small metal drainage pipe by blowing over the top of it, for example). He's definitely taller and plumper than O'Malley, but Duchess is much taller than he. -Satchmo's Gang is now like much more like an alley cat clowder than it was originally. Each cat has a separate personality: -Boris (the fluffy gray cat) is very gentlemanly and dignified, although he can be almost kitten-like when something gets him in the mood (I.e. a toy mouse or catnip). He's pretty ticked off about Satchmo's music idea and doesn't want to look so childish, but he does it anyway. It's also implied he's related to Satchmo somehow. (His "instrument" is a milk jug with rubber bands around it, which he plucks with his teeth to make noise.) -Cyril (the skinny Elton John-looking one) is a bit of a hippie like his animated counterpart, but it isn't obnoxious. He's quicker on the uptake than one might think and is actually the brains of the group. He's totally in on the whole music idea though and loves it like nothing else. (His "instrument" is a wood board with rubber bands strung onto it, and like Boris, he pluck the bands with his teeth to make noise.) - Peppo (the small brown one) is just renamed Peppy, and for good reason. He's now an excitable cat only 7 months old who was taken in by Satchmo and O'Malley when he was an orphan they found on the street, and he acts as their son. Easily the most childlike out of the lot because he is a child. (His "instrument" is a slinky spring that he wobbles and shakes to make noise.) - The Siamese? He doesn't exist. Siamese? What Siamese? No Siamese here nooo - Instead of that, O'Malley's sister is the fourth member of the Cat Gang. (She is, like O'Malley, a ginger tabby, and the only way one can tell them apart is by scent.)She's sort of the straight man of the group (although she has her moments) and isn't a fan of most pet cats, so she doesn't understand why O'Malley is helping them. She dealt with being compared to her mother all the time to he point of losing self-confidence as a kitten, and eventually comes around and helps Babette with her similar situation. (Her "instrument" is an old toy piano small enough that it can be comfortably pushed around to other places (it has wheels) that she plays by tapping the keys with her paws.) oooooooo! More characters! I have never seen this movie OOOPS
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 13:19:38 GMT -5
Yet another bump? i still need a name rip
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 15:44:01 GMT -5
Yet another bump? i still need a name ripI'd give you a name but I don't know what to call this either ;-;
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