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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 18:58:52 GMT -5
I remember someone said they didn't like the book that much because if the way how it was written, when Bluestar lost everything, and I do understand. That story has been used a lot, however it is hard to be original anymore and it did give Bluestar the development she needed and a personality. But I can understand why some people don't like how her story was written.
Do you think this story could have been written better? I think this book was fine, at least they didn't give Bluestar the pity party like they did with Mapleshade.
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Post by icefang on Dec 6, 2016 0:04:22 GMT -5
I've heard a lot of people complain that Bluestar's backstory is cliche. If you look at it in a metaphorical light, I think it starts to make more sense. WARNING TONS OF SPOILERS AHEAD So, this is just a theory, but if you look at the story in a certain way, you can see it as a metaphor for letting go of childhood dependency and embracing your own strengths. BP is a coming of age story, where we see Bluekit become Bluestar through her many struggles. Throughout the book, you see her family interests and the prophecy clash with each other, this being most apparent with Bluefur's kits, where she's literally forced to choose between her family or her destiny. Its not as obvious with Moonflower and Snowfur, but the theory still works. There's a pattern throughout the book where Bluestar loses someone she cared about and depended on, e.i. her mother, then has to cope with the fall out. It's interesting to see that the book doesn't let Bluestar have both her family and her destiny. The thing is, she doesn't lose them entirely. She sees them in StarClan, and they appear to her in visions every once in a while. This almost feels like a metaphor for growing up and becoming independent of a parent. You still love them, and still are supported by them (think when Moonflower appears to her when she meets Oakheart, or when she gives her one of her nine lives) but simply cannot rely on them fully anymore. The image of Moonflower making nests for her kits in the camp, before Bluepaw's first battle, compared to the image of Moonflower dead afterwards,kind of displays this sort of pain, where you cant depend on a parent anymore. Bluepaw mourns the trip into the wood with her mother to get more moss for their nests, remembering her last night with her mom, very similar to her nights in the nusery when she was a kit. Bluestar becomes Bluestar after she loses pretty much every family member she has. This maybe reflects on how in life, once we reach adulthood, we are distanced from our family by our newfound indepence, realization of the self, and responsiblity. Think of Bluestar's destiny itself. Her destiny, leadership, is the ultimate example of the things listed above. I think when people complain about all of Bluestar's family members dying, you have to realize that the story would be entirely different if she didnt lose everyone. I look at her prophecy as a symbol of potential adulthood, where Bluestar not only becomes entirely self sufficient, she also becomes responsible for other cats.If she still had her family, that would change Bluestar's character drastically. Somehow, I feel like if Moonflower never died, Bluestar might never have had a prophecy. I'm not exactly sure about all this, since there are so many other factors that come into play in the book that I havent really thought about. But it kind of gives an explanation to her backstory and why it is so cliché. I'm not an expert at dissecting books, but it's my take on it. Also my writing is kind of all over the place and my thoughts are scattered XD
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Post by Silverwing on Jan 29, 2017 20:55:27 GMT -5
I thought the story was fine and I never got what was wrong with it. I thought the Erins overall put a lot of effort and heart into it, especially in the emotional scenes; there was certainly heart there and they make me cry every time. The whole scene with Bluestar and her kits in the snow, and when she has to tell Whitekit about his mother's death were very well written and I cry just thinking about them, and no book has ever done that to me, not even Crookestar's Promise.
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Post by Owlmoon on Feb 6, 2017 15:58:45 GMT -5
I thought the story was fine and I never got what was wrong with it. I thought the Erins overall put a lot of effort and heart into it, Same.
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Post by moonwisker on Feb 16, 2017 15:45:06 GMT -5
I know I cried every time someone died in the book. To me they made her story more heartbreaking then it should have been. Their was not too much happiness in it. I though thought it was good cause even though their was not too much happiness she still came out on top for the better.
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Post by Silverwing on Mar 12, 2017 19:10:39 GMT -5
I thought the story was fine and I never got what was wrong with it. I thought the Erins overall put a lot of effort and heart into it, Same. It just seemed like the Erins were very committed to it and wanted to tell the story. You could just see it in the writing and the emotional moments. It's actually my favourite Warriors book because of that reason. The only legit problem I had with it was that the relationship with Oakheart and Bluefur was rushed and shoe-horned in, but everything else was fine. Crookedstar's Promise got very rushed in the last section and and all the deaths weren't sad because of that. I also didn't like the DF being in it because I never liked that storyline at all. DF not being in BP made me love it more. :\
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Post by moonwisker on Mar 13, 2017 16:52:32 GMT -5
I though they put a lot of effort into her's story cause it was the first book they wrote and I believe they wanted to make sure they got the readers attation.
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Post by Tas on Mar 16, 2017 20:02:36 GMT -5
By "first book" do you mean "first SE"? But yes, I agree with all this ^^^^^
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Post by moonwisker on Mar 17, 2017 12:05:31 GMT -5
Yes for me it is the kick off book cause the ending goes right into the book "Into the Wild". Of the Warrior series.
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Post by Tas on Mar 17, 2017 15:24:35 GMT -5
Alright. It's still probably better to read Into the Wild first, though, because Bluestar's SE doesn't explain the clans the way ItW does, plus we would already know who Bluestar is. Sometimes you shouldn't read the books in chronological order.
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Post by moonwisker on Mar 18, 2017 10:40:34 GMT -5
Yes I understand though for timeline it is nice to know where books fall in.
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