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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Sept 23, 2023 2:25:23 GMT -5
Not sure why Raggedstar needed a page over any other more important cat but okay ig i hate abusers why did they give raggedstar a page and not nightstar
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 5:52:59 GMT -5
Not sure why Raggedstar needed a page over any other more important cat but okay ig i hate abusers why did they give raggedstar a page and not nightstar Nightstar will have a page, considering he had a page in the last guide (as did Raggedstar).
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Sept 23, 2023 8:12:28 GMT -5
i hate abusers why did they give raggedstar a page and not nightstar Nightstar will have a page, considering he had a page in the last guide (as did Raggedstar). CANT WAIT 🗣️🗣️ considering his only art was graphic novel art or old art from the previous editions of the guide, he might get new art ..
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Post by ¯\_(ツ)_/¯IvyStar¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on Sept 23, 2023 9:13:09 GMT -5
Already preordered my copy a couple of weeks ago! It looks amazing!
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Post by iceheart on Sept 23, 2023 11:12:22 GMT -5
It’s a shame they reused cover art. Cats of the Clans didn’t reuse art from the covers even though they’ve had them. The Ultimate Guide reused art from Cats of the Clans, but had brand new art for new characters. And the text is just line for line from The Ultimate Guide, save for a few new paragraphs. It’s like they’re hellbent on getting rid of every trade of Wayne’s original artwork. There’s no way you can tell that’s Leafstar - she’s silhouetted in fire. You can’t see her coat or eyes, and there’s half of Rowanclaw beside her even though he’s not on the same page. And again, that’s not Sol. Sol is a tortie. I don’t know what color this cat is. You can’t even tell that’s Alderheart. He’s a dark ginger cat. That’s a brown cat. I’m very disappointed - I always have low bars for this series in general, but to be actively disappointed by the one thing I thought would be good (I was genuinely looking forward to new images for everyone and new pages), is just mind boggling. Such a low bar but they managed to disappoint me anyway. Not to mention that Raggedstar’s image is just a recolored version of Graystripe from The Ultimate Guide. If they use Firestar’s FQ version and Bramblestar’s BS version (both covers are the exact same, except Bramblestar’s is flipped and recolored brown), I’m going to absolutely lose it.
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Post by ! (Ġray) ! on Sept 23, 2023 11:46:57 GMT -5
I'm kind of sad about the Ivypool photo, you can't really tell that it's her because of the lighting
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Post by ! (Ġray) ! on Sept 23, 2023 11:49:15 GMT -5
Wait guys you know how the entire Tigerstar family tree looks the same
What if they just used a photo of tigerone for the art of literally every clone (including Hawkfrost) and it was badly photoshopped like on the novella cover and also it was blurry
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 23, 2023 12:28:56 GMT -5
I'm kind of sad about the Ivypool photo, you can't really tell that it's her because of the lighting I'm pretty sure most people recognize/know this art of her as it being the reprinted cover for Fading Echoes which Ivypool was on (she was also on the old cover version of that book). Would've loved some new art for her instead (and everyone else as well) but that's just how it is.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 12:36:14 GMT -5
That's exactly why reusing the cover art is just so ridiculous. You literally cannot even tell who some of these cats are supposed to be due to the lighting. A character guide should be showing off the character's designs and traits, but you simply cannot do that with these covers because they are so blasted with 50 layers of lighting. The original pictures of Sandstorm and Feathertail are beautiful, and that only makes the fact that they're reusing not-so-nice-looking (imo) cover art that much worse.
I just feel that it drives me nuts in the same way that the cheaper paper quality and covers (and now lack of SE comic) drives me nuts. There is so much corner cutting despite the fact that the series is only growing more and more and I just feel like fans deserve better.
And I want to strongly say that if you are excited for this book, please continue to be. In no way, shape or form do I want to make anyone feel bad about purchasing this book or being excited for it. My opinions are simply my own and anyone else has the right to feel differently.
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Post by iceheart on Sept 23, 2023 13:53:08 GMT -5
That's exactly why reusing the cover art is just so ridiculous. You literally cannot even tell who some of these cats are supposed to be due to the lighting. A character guide should be showing off the character's designs and traits, but you simply cannot do that with these covers because they are so blasted with 50 layers of lighting. The original pictures of Sandstorm and Feathertail are beautiful, and that only makes the fact that they're reusing not-so-nice-looking (imo) cover art that much worse. I just feel that it drives me nuts in the same way that the cheaper paper quality and covers (and now lack of SE comic) drives me nuts. There is so much corner cutting despite the fact that the series is only growing more and more and I just feel like fans deserve better. And I want to strongly say that if you are excited for this book, please continue to be. In no way, shape or form do I want to make anyone feel bad about purchasing this book or being excited for it. My opinions are simply my own and anyone else has the right to feel differently. It’s not just me then? A few friends and I were talking about the paper quality and how lackluster it is. Is there another thread that talks about it more?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 14:49:33 GMT -5
That's exactly why reusing the cover art is just so ridiculous. You literally cannot even tell who some of these cats are supposed to be due to the lighting. A character guide should be showing off the character's designs and traits, but you simply cannot do that with these covers because they are so blasted with 50 layers of lighting. The original pictures of Sandstorm and Feathertail are beautiful, and that only makes the fact that they're reusing not-so-nice-looking (imo) cover art that much worse. I just feel that it drives me nuts in the same way that the cheaper paper quality and covers (and now lack of SE comic) drives me nuts. There is so much corner cutting despite the fact that the series is only growing more and more and I just feel like fans deserve better. And I want to strongly say that if you are excited for this book, please continue to be. In no way, shape or form do I want to make anyone feel bad about purchasing this book or being excited for it. My opinions are simply my own and anyone else has the right to feel differently. It’s not just me then? A few friends and I were talking about the paper quality and how lackluster it is. Is there another thread that talks about it more? I did make a topic regarding the cover quality back in April, and from there the page quality was also talked about wcrpforums.com/thread/91378/cover-shadowThe topic is dead now since it hasn't been posted in for some months, but if a new topic was made to discuss it I would partake.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 15:44:31 GMT -5
Excited!!! I want to see some character art!
I also adore the new character format. And Sandstorm's artwork *chef's kiss*.
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Post by ombredecorbeau2003 on Sept 23, 2023 17:58:41 GMT -5
No illustration for Dovewing? Hawkwing's page in Sharpclaw's name? It’s SHAMEFUL, damn it. Given that most of the illustrations are from the covers and that they just updated the summaries of several characters, apart from the unpublished story with Firestar and Graystripe, it would surprise me if they had to bother a lot to do this guide then they could have had the decency not to do this kind of stupidity. Seriously, they made no effort. In any case, since Redtail's Debt, it is obvious that the publishers are not at all careful otherwise we would never have had Redtail KILLING Oakheart. Damn, what does SHARPCLAW say in capital letters on Hawkwing's page, you have to do it anyway to let that go. And the point of a guide with character profiles is that everyone has their own illustration, otherwise it's pointless actually. Too bad because the new illustrations are really superb. I'm also curious to see those of Cinderpelt and Gorsestar to get a glimpse of the covers of their future novellas. And obviously I hope that Darktail, Pebbleshine, Star Flower, Needletail, Alderheart, Sparkpelt, Violetshine, Twigbranch, Tigerstar II, Redtail, Shadowsight, Bristlefrost, Rootspring, Daisy, Spotfur, Rowanclaw, Sasha and Tree will all have their profiles. And also Nightheart, Sunbeam and Frostpaw, although A Starless Clan is not finished. Besides, imagine if we spoiled Thunder, Wind and A Starless Clan #6 on their profiles. Ah and also I hope that we will see Ravenpaw in the unpublished story with Firestar and Graystripe, I would like to see the three of them reunited in StarClan
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Sept 23, 2023 18:22:07 GMT -5
No illustration for Dovewing? Hawkwing's page in Sharpclaw's name? Dovewing's illustration isn't shown because there literally wasn't room for it. It's going to be on the other side of the left page. And they're showing Hawkwing's illustration because that illustration is going to be for Hawkwing. Sharpclaw's illustration is going to be on the other side of where his description is. Again, this happens all the time with character guides, including the last two this series has had: character illustration, then description, and sometimes that description will take up more than a single page. Alderheart's illustration was shown in the trailer, so yes. His page is right after Briarlight's. And after I extracted frames, it looks like Shadowsight will indeed be getting a page from what I could glean from the glare, right before Tigerclaw's nine lives ceremony, so it's likely the other two will be getting pages as well.
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Post by *Faith* on Sept 23, 2023 20:48:44 GMT -5
Yay and nay. While I can't wait for this to come out, I really wish they had used new art. Sandstorm is super gorgeous, though. I also really like Feathertail. So basically, the cats with no cover art get new art. I'm wondering what they'll do with Twigbranch and Violetshine. One is in TC, while the other is in SkC. They are together on the covers for TAS and TRS.
Then we have Shadowsight, Rootspring and Bristlefrost who are literally floating cat heads on their covers. Also, Nightheart, Sunbeam and Frostpaw who always share their covers with other cats (including each other).
Side note: Some cats should have been taken out because there is just nothing left to say for them. Basically, Stoneteller and Raggedstar have no reason being here. Neither does Boulder (I mean, I didn't see him, but still).
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Sept 23, 2023 23:07:17 GMT -5
I saw someone on Twitter saying that Raggedstar's art was just reused Graystripe art is that true can we get a comparison 😭😭
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Sept 24, 2023 1:33:40 GMT -5
I wanted to be excited (and I still am!), but I'm disappointed about the art. If this is a guide, then the pictures should accurately show what the cats look like. I can't tell what color fur cats like Ivypool and Raggedstar have because of how awful the lighting is. I'd be much happier if they did it like the Warriors Wiki and recolor the same lineart over and over with minor edits where needed. Actually I think the main Warriors site already has art like that? Unique art is cool, but not if it doesn't even show what the cat looks like! Ivypool and Raggedstar don't have unique art, unfortunately. Ivypool's art is the cover art for Fading Echoes, and Raggedstar's art is (apparently) just the Graystripe's Vow cover art recoloured, flipped and squished.
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Post by ! (Ġray) ! on Sept 24, 2023 5:44:07 GMT -5
I saw someone on Twitter saying that Raggedstar's art was just reused Graystripe art is that true can we get a comparison 😭😭 Raggedstar got done so dirty
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 6:34:28 GMT -5
I saw someone on Twitter saying that Raggedstar's art was just reused Graystripe art is that true can we get a comparison 😭😭 Raggedstar got done so dirty Holy **** that is hideous. It looks like he had a door slammed on his face. How did they manage to make it look both traced and AI generated.
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Sept 24, 2023 7:20:19 GMT -5
I saw someone on Twitter saying that Raggedstar's art was just reused Graystripe art is that true can we get a comparison 😭😭 Raggedstar got done so dirty NO WAY IT ACTUALLY IS LMAOAOAOOA he deserves to get done dirty actually
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Post by کیوان on Sept 24, 2023 8:08:54 GMT -5
He learned in advance what his son would do to him and hasn’t been quite the same afterwards
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Post by Slightdapple on Sept 24, 2023 8:14:48 GMT -5
Some of the art (like Sandstorm’s and Feathertail’s) seems really pretty, and I’m excited to get this, but the reusing of cover art is disappointing.
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Post by iceheart on Sept 24, 2023 19:57:55 GMT -5
Yay and nay. While I can't wait for this to come out, I really wish they had used new art. Sandstorm is super gorgeous, though. I also really like Feathertail. So basically, the cats with no cover art get new art. I'm wondering what they'll do with Twigbranch and Violetshine. One is in TC, while the other is in SkC. They are together on the covers for TAS and TRS. Then we have Shadowsight, Rootspring and Bristlefrost who are literally floating cat heads on their covers. Also, Nightheart, Sunbeam and Frostpaw who always share their covers with other cats (including each other). Side note: Some cats should have been taken out because there is just nothing left to say for them. Basically, Stoneteller and Raggedstar have no reason being here. Neither does Boulder (I mean, I didn't see him, but still). I imagine they'll just use half of the cover. They did that with Leafstar. It's her River of Fire cover and you can see half of Rowanclaw behind her.
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Sept 24, 2023 20:25:29 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2023 21:05:33 GMT -5
Who wants to bet we can gage which at cat will get a super edition next based on who has new art. Harestar is definitely getting an SE now that they can just recycle his guide picture- assuming he's going to be in the book (/half joking).
Also that gif is amazing lmao.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Sept 25, 2023 4:44:05 GMT -5
The real question is, who still looks better despite the rather unfortunate design, Graystripe or Raggedstar? Neither for me, to be honest. I always thought that this version of Graystripe looks more like Darkstripe and Raggedstar kinda looks like yet another Tigerstar clone due to his shorter fur (he should be long-furred).
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Post by nowarriornameshere on Sept 25, 2023 22:01:09 GMT -5
They don't even look like they're trying with this one
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2023 16:07:31 GMT -5
Someone said something about Brokenstar, can someone give me an image for him?
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