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Post by Sand on Jun 27, 2023 8:05:32 GMT -5
I don’t understand why this series has book titles like Sky, Wind, etc. The matching clan names aren’t even involved in the drama to begin with. There is no POV for WindClan or SkyClan if I remember correctly. It’s like ThunderClan, RiverClan, and ShadowClan are the only clans to exist in this arc.
The blurb seems to basically tell you what happens already and there’s not much of a reason to read the book.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jun 27, 2023 9:49:06 GMT -5
Hmm, I think it's interesting how this avoids the whole leadership change issue for ThunderClan completely as well. Not even a wink of mention of it. Just that the leaders were all discussing on whether or not to interfere anymore, which is so odd. Because if Splashtail is literally taking over, and there's no order in RiverClan, I feel that it's kinda strange for no one to step in at that point. Especially Leafstar? What exactly happen in the previous book for them to be so hesitant all of a sudden when they were gung ho about it before?
Also, I don't care for another random cat just following Frostpaw to the old territories, I was hoping she go on her own and then make new companions along the way. It seems odd that Nightheart is once again leaving his clan, and then comes back to Sunbeam who was waiting in ThunderClan? Supposedly? I'm confused as to how he got roped into this at all.
Not bothered by NightSun being mates, good for them, just hope it actually works out in the end, since lately there's the habit of either dragging a relationship until it's unhealthy or killing one of the characters because no happy endings are allowed lol.
And not to be that guy, but I'm tired of ThunderClan getting the majority of new cats that join the clans at all, who are associated with the main POVs of the main storyline. Like I was also hoping WindClan got some relevancy, not because I care for them getting content, but it's irking to name the book Wind when they're not even relevant??
Berryheart got exiled and she's only getting worse? Good. I hope there's no redemption either. Stop redeeming villains last second so they get into StarClan.
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Post by vectoring34 on Jun 27, 2023 10:17:10 GMT -5
I get a kick out of how dumb Splashtail's name sounds compared to other series villains. All the others sound like bad guy names, emphasizing their strength, violence, or evil nature. And then over here we have Splashtail, which is more cute than intimidating. I do hope he's not the final one.
It is very disappointing that Nightsun seems to be endgame, I really liked the spy fan theory.
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Post by 🌸🐥silvermoon2🐥🌸 on Jun 27, 2023 10:31:04 GMT -5
I went into this knowing I shouldn't read it because Warriors is incapable of producing a blurb without spoiling the entire arc and it's grandmother these days and I still regret it. Has anyone ever thought to contact the company/site/whoever whose in charge of this/making the decision on what to say in the blurb and explaining to them politely this is sort of ridiculous? Not that I think it would really help in the end. I guess the lesson is to just stay away from the blurbs. Also on one hand disappointed to find out both park cats join Thunderclan and none Riverclan. But on the other hand Thunderclan needs all the fresh bloodline it can get. Yeah, I really disliked the spoilers too. The blurbs are so annoying, now I hardly feel like reading Thunder since I basically know what will happen. I'm also disappointed that it seems like Nightheart and Sunbeam will be mates, since I've always liked them better as friends and wanted them to stay in their respective clans. Also disappointed on Splashtail being the villan, since I really like him.
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Post by 𝕊𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕤𝕙𝕚𝕞𝕞𝕖𝕣 on Jun 27, 2023 10:33:31 GMT -5
I get a kick out of how dumb Splashtail's name sounds compared to other series villains. All the others sound like bad guy names, emphasizing their strength, violence, or evil nature. And then over here we have Splashtail, which is more cute than intimidating. I do hope he's not the final one. It is very disappointing that Nightsun seems to be endgame, I really liked the spy fan theory. True, Splashtail is such an adorable villain name good for him <3 Hoping Berryheart will be a bigger villain than him (how about a final battle were they turn on and beat each other up lol?) I mean, Frecklewish (TC) also sounds very cute for a cat in the Dark Forest lmao (but then again, we've not properly seen her there yet or even as a full on villainous character). I'll still hold on to my dream of NightSun not actually being endgame, even if it's very much hopeless at this point considering this series hasn't had that many permanent break ups overall (especially in terms of relationships involving a protagonist).
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Jun 27, 2023 11:42:27 GMT -5
Me knowing that although the book is LITERALLY CALLED Wind, WindClan won’t have any relevance as usual. ![]() ![](https://imgur.com/ydhjt7C.png) (Also as a side note, I actually don’t mind that it’s looking like NightSun is going to be endgame? I thought most of their interactions were pretty cute.)
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Post by Jaysnow on Jun 27, 2023 11:47:16 GMT -5
I love memes as much as the next guy but maybe we should wait for at least a cover before ragging on them about no WindClan relevance.
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Jun 27, 2023 11:56:25 GMT -5
Jaysnow I definitely get that lol. It’ll probably be like how Sky had Fidgetflake and Rootspring hang out on the Catmint patrol.
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Post by Hollyfall on Jun 27, 2023 11:57:11 GMT -5
I get a kick out of how dumb Splashtail's name sounds compared to other series villains. All the others sound like bad guy names, emphasizing their strength, violence, or evil nature. And then over here we have Splashtail, which is more cute than intimidating. I do hope he's not the final one. Especially since Splashtail is...what? A year or so old? He's literally a teenager/young adult at this point. Though perhaps his less than intimidating name is on purpose and his strength comes from the power of his character? Sky mentions he's good at being decisive and complaints about him being deputy don't last long.
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jun 27, 2023 12:05:07 GMT -5
I get a kick out of how dumb Splashtail's name sounds compared to other series villains. All the others sound like bad guy names, emphasizing their strength, violence, or evil nature. And then over here we have Splashtail, which is more cute than intimidating. I do hope he's not the final one. Especially since Splashtail is...what? A year or so old? He's literally a teenager/young adult at this point. This is exactly why I had trouble seeing him as a villain and still kinda do. And I'm liking him as an antagonist so far but... really? I'm not mad, just a little disappointed. Hopefully he'll at least have an interesting motive, but I won't be surprised if it's just a power thing, either. I also wouldn't be surprised if the writers and editors just forgot exactly how young he actually was. For comparison's sake, he's around the same age as Rootspring and Nightheart.
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Post by Jaysnow on Jun 27, 2023 12:11:43 GMT -5
Jaysnow I definitely get that lol. It’ll probably be like how Sky had Fidgetflake and Rootspring hang out on the Catmint patrol. Yeah, like as small as their relevance ended up being, it's not like it was non existent. And this was the only case for ASC so far. Every other book has had the Clan in the title he pretty relevant.
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Jun 27, 2023 12:19:49 GMT -5
Jaysnow I definitely get that lol. It’ll probably be like how Sky had Fidgetflake and Rootspring hang out on the Catmint patrol. Yeah, like as small as their relevance ended up being, it's not like it was non existent. And this was the only case for ASC so far. Every other book has had the Clan in the title he pretty relevant.Arguably, River and Shadow had more relevance to their namesake compared to Sky because they both currently have protagonists in the clans. ( River had Frostpaw and Shadow had both Sunbeam AND Nightheart). It does make sense though, since it’s easier to focus on a clan when there’s actually a protagonist living in it.
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Post by Jaysnow on Jun 27, 2023 12:28:04 GMT -5
Yeah, like as small as their relevance ended up being, it's not like it was non existent. And this was the only case for ASC so far. Every other book has had the Clan in the title he pretty relevant.Arguably, River and Shadow had more relevance to their namesake compared to Sky because they both currently have protagonists in the clans. ( River had Frostpaw and Shadow had both Sunbeam AND Nightheart). It does make sense though, since it’s easier to focus on a clan when there’s actually a protagonist living in it. True, and now that Sunbeam has moved to ThunderClan for Thunder...
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Post by vectoring34 on Jun 27, 2023 17:06:05 GMT -5
I get a kick out of how dumb Splashtail's name sounds compared to other series villains. All the others sound like bad guy names, emphasizing their strength, violence, or evil nature. And then over here we have Splashtail, which is more cute than intimidating. I do hope he's not the final one. Especially since Splashtail is...what? A year or so old? He's literally a teenager/young adult at this point. Though perhaps his less than intimidating name is on purpose and his strength comes from the power of his character? Sky mentions he's good at being decisive and complaints about him being deputy don't last long. You say that, but his portrayal in book 3 as he frantically tried to come up with good ways to lie to Frostpaw wasn't exactly a good showing of what I'd call a good manipulator. It worked, but only because Frostpaw just turned her brain off because she was so busy crushing on him. It's more on Frostpaw just having terrible taste than it is on Splashtail being particularly seductive or decisive in villainy.
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Post by oatwhisker on Jun 27, 2023 23:15:08 GMT -5
so much for this arc. i was reaalllly hoping for a solid one this time but are you kidding? they've just spoiled the entire thing grrrrraaaaaahhhhh
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Post by Hollyfall on Jun 29, 2023 0:43:13 GMT -5
Especially since Splashtail is...what? A year or so old? He's literally a teenager/young adult at this point. This is exactly why I had trouble seeing him as a villain and still kinda do. And I'm liking him as an antagonist so far but... really? I'm not mad, just a little disappointed. Hopefully he'll at least have an interesting motive, but I won't be surprised if it's just a power thing, either. I also wouldn't be surprised if the writers and editors just forgot exactly how young he actually was. For comparison's sake, he's around the same age as Rootspring and Nightheart. Completely agree, but if it's just "power" then it's a bit shallow and within the leagues of Tigerstar I, Brokenstar, or Hawkfrost...though his reaction to Tigerstar's takeover of RiverClan might come from pride or something, we'll see I suppose. It's pointed out in the book that he's "barely out of kithood" by Leafstar when he's announced as deputy so, at least to me, the editors are aware he's quite young, but still quite disjointing when this literal teenager seems to have completely usurped power of his Clan somehow in the span of like, a month or two, hence why I mention the sheer force of his personality or so. But like vectoring34 pointed out he fumbles when talking to Frostpaw and manages to succeed due to luck, so...? I dunno, trying to make sense of it.
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Post by Leonard on Jun 29, 2023 9:39:49 GMT -5
We got the reveal on the official website, no new information, aside from them claiming that the cover will be coming soon.
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Post by Featherstar on Jun 29, 2023 13:10:53 GMT -5
Weird. Usually we have the cover for the newly revealed book immediately.
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Post by hazelmaeda on Jun 29, 2023 14:30:38 GMT -5
I should have guessed park cats would follow them home. Since Riverstar's book is coming out, I should've expected the park cats to somehow still be there and have relevance to the more recent books in the series. I've noticed that stuff like this has been happening a lot- books taking place in the past having relevance to books that are about to come out. It's a trend at this point. I also knew that WarriorClan would become relevant as well! I'm excited about that! (You can't tell me that cats will go back to the old territories and not have WarriorClan involved. Basically confirmed in some way.)
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Post by hazelmaeda on Jun 29, 2023 14:39:38 GMT -5
Especially since Splashtail is...what? A year or so old? He's literally a teenager/young adult at this point. Though perhaps his less than intimidating name is on purpose and his strength comes from the power of his character? Sky mentions he's good at being decisive and complaints about him being deputy don't last long. You say that, but his portrayal in book 3 as he frantically tried to come up with good ways to lie to Frostpaw wasn't exactly a good showing of what I'd call a good manipulator. It worked, but only because Frostpaw just turned her brain off because she was so busy crushing on him. It's more on Frostpaw just having terrible taste than it is on Splashtail being particularly seductive or decisive in villainy. Yeah, but with Splashtail, what are his motives? If he had killed Reedwhisker, why? He didn't jump at the chance to be leader when he and Mistystar both perished. He was just doing his best to help the Clan. Plus Reedwhisker's patrol itself had departed before Mistystar died and the cats who were in the camp weren't even sent out to find his patrol. He would have been killed during the wait for him and his patrol members to return home, meaning that if Splashtail killed him, there's a huge chance he hadn't known Mistystar had even died. Unless he gave her some poisoned food? But again, he didn't seem to phased by the thought of another cat being leader or deputy of the Clan. He seems to be in favour of supporting certain cats as well, even if it means he doesn't get to lead himself. He didn't jump up and offer to lead the Clan and seems to want StarClan to choose its next leader rather than step up himself. I mean, heck, it wouldn't have gotten to that point if someone like him had taken charge when cats were desperately wanting someone to. Why would he murder Reedwhisker and not try to take his place? I definitely think he and Berryheart are both going to be this arc's main villains. But I don't see what his motives and goals even are due to him not trying to become its leader even when the Clan was practically begging some cat to take charge. What other goal could he have?
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Jun 29, 2023 14:55:38 GMT -5
You say that, but his portrayal in book 3 as he frantically tried to come up with good ways to lie to Frostpaw wasn't exactly a good showing of what I'd call a good manipulator. It worked, but only because Frostpaw just turned her brain off because she was so busy crushing on him. It's more on Frostpaw just having terrible taste than it is on Splashtail being particularly seductive or decisive in villainy. Yeah, but with Splashtail, what are his motives? If he had killed Reedwhisker, why? He didn't jump at the chance to be leader when he and Mistystar both perished. He was just doing his best to help the Clan. Plus Reedwhisker's patrol itself had departed before Mistystar died and the cats who were in the camp weren't even sent out to find his patrol. He would have been killed during the wait for him and his patrol members to return home, meaning that if Splashtail killed him, there's a huge chance he hadn't known Mistystar had even died. Unless he gave her some poisoned food? But again, he didn't seem to phased by the thought of another cat being leader or deputy of the Clan. He seems to be in favour of supporting certain cats as well, even if it means he doesn't get to lead himself. He didn't jump up and offer to lead the Clan and seems to want StarClan to choose its next leader rather than step up himself. I mean, heck, it wouldn't have gotten to that point if someone like him had taken charge when cats were desperately wanting someone to. Why would he murder Reedwhisker and not try to take his place? I definitely think he and Berryheart are both going to be this arc's main villains. But I don't see what his motives and goals even are due to him not trying to become its leader even when the Clan was practically begging some cat to take charge. What other goal could he have? To be fair, Splashtail hasn't trained an apprentice yet. If he did kill Reedwhisker as a power grab, it'd be highly unusual if he'd tried to take the position just like that. Just look how everyone reacted when he was made deputy. It's also possible he's just playing the long game, similar to how Tigerclaw didn't jump at the chance to become deputy after killing Redtail (granted, different circumstances, but hopefully you get what I mean). Plus, directly stepping up to become leader when he was on the same patrol as Reedwhisker would've seemed highly suspicious. Either way though, I don't want it to be a pure power grab, but I'm hoping he's not working alone if it is one. Like I said, much as I'm enjoying him, I still can't take someone as incredibly young as him becoming a villain seriously and Curlfeather clearly knew something anyway. Maybe other cats were in on it too. It's also possible he wasn't trying to gain power for himself, but with the ShadowClan situation getting worse, he's become desperate.
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Post by hazelmaeda on Jun 29, 2023 15:02:31 GMT -5
Yeah, but with Splashtail, what are his motives? If he had killed Reedwhisker, why? He didn't jump at the chance to be leader when he and Mistystar both perished. He was just doing his best to help the Clan. Plus Reedwhisker's patrol itself had departed before Mistystar died and the cats who were in the camp weren't even sent out to find his patrol. He would have been killed during the wait for him and his patrol members to return home, meaning that if Splashtail killed him, there's a huge chance he hadn't known Mistystar had even died. Unless he gave her some poisoned food? But again, he didn't seem to phased by the thought of another cat being leader or deputy of the Clan. He seems to be in favour of supporting certain cats as well, even if it means he doesn't get to lead himself. He didn't jump up and offer to lead the Clan and seems to want StarClan to choose its next leader rather than step up himself. I mean, heck, it wouldn't have gotten to that point if someone like him had taken charge when cats were desperately wanting someone to. Why would he murder Reedwhisker and not try to take his place? I definitely think he and Berryheart are both going to be this arc's main villains. But I don't see what his motives and goals even are due to him not trying to become its leader even when the Clan was practically begging some cat to take charge. What other goal could he have? To be fair, Splashtail hasn't trained an apprentice yet. If he did kill Reedwhisker as a power grab, it'd be highly unusual if he'd tried to take the position just like that. Just look how everyone reacted when he was made deputy. It's also possible he's just playing the long game, similar to how Tigerclaw didn't jump at the chance to become deputy after killing Redtail (granted, different circumstances, but hopefully you get what I mean). Plus, directly stepping up to become leader when he was on the same patrol as Reedwhisker would've seemed highly suspicious. Either way though, I don't want it to be a pure power grab, but I'm hoping he's not working alone if it is one. Like I said, much as I'm enjoying him, I still can't take someone as incredibly young as him becoming a villain seriously and Curlfeather clearly knew something anyway. Maybe other cats were in on it too. It's also possible he wasn't trying to gain power for himself, but with the ShadowClan situation getting worse, he's become desperate. Yeah, I hope he's a villain for a different reason, either helping someone else become leader or something else entirely. It's obviously more important to him than Frostpaw is. I really, really hope it isn't just him wanting power because that's the case with over half the villains in the series already lol
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