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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Apr 7, 2023 22:46:11 GMT -5
When I say that Molewhisker and Scourge are plain toast cats, I don't mean it on the same level as Brackenfur. Brackenfur is a whole new level of plain toast cat. It's like... lightly toasted, stale, plain toast.
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Post by SquipyCheetah on Apr 8, 2023 0:02:08 GMT -5
Shrewpaw. He's a nice guy and kinda Squirrelpaw's friend. That's it. I don't get the obsession with him.
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Post by Sphinxwhisker on Apr 8, 2023 0:33:49 GMT -5
Swiftpaw, Gray Wing and River Ripple.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Apr 8, 2023 2:43:24 GMT -5
People did plentyyyyy of Scourge character analysis back in the day. The fact that the algorithm doesn't show you any nowadays doesn't mean they didn't exist, it just means that people currently aren't writing that much about a guy whose last book was released over a decade ago. But that's my point. His last book released over a decade ago. People don't make character analysis about him anymore because he had such little content to analyse. I don't see the hype. I think people mostly liked Tiny/Scourge because he was edgy. He was very popular in the fandom around 2009 and prior as well as further on (when Ashfur was too, which also included the now infamous crackship of Scourge x Ashfur, despite there being a huge age difference and Scourge being dead as well as them never interacting outside of Ashfur loudly making fun of BloodClan for wearing collars in TDH, that's why it was just a crackship though lol). I was one of the edgy teens who "fangirled" over edgy Scourge back then (drew overly edgy as well as crappy art and even painted a pre-made clay cat figure to look like him lmao). Sometimes, a character doesn't have to do much or appear much to leave an impression on people (all thanks to their vibe). Not an uncommon fandom phenomenon imo.
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Post by Mistybreeze on Apr 8, 2023 3:19:31 GMT -5
Berrynose. The dude bounced between being a bully to just downright annoying. And yet some people practically worship him.
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Apr 8, 2023 3:46:08 GMT -5
But that's my point. His last book released over a decade ago. People don't make character analysis about him anymore because he had such little content to analyse. I don't see the hype. I think people mostly liked Tiny/Scourge because he was edgy. He was very popular in the fandom around 2009 and prior as well as further on (when Ashfur was too, which also included the now infamous crackship of Scourge x Ashfur, despite there being a huge age difference and Scourge being dead as well as them never interacting outside of Ashfur loudly making fun of BloodClan for wearing collars in TDH, that's why it was just a crackship though lol). I was one of the edgy teens who "fangirled" over edgy Scourge back then (drew overly edgy as well as crappy art and even painted a pre-made clay cat figure to look like him lmao). Sometimes, a character doesn't have to do much or appear much to leave an impression on people (all thanks to their vibe). Not an uncommon fandom phenomenon imo. I can understand the hype then, because it was 2009, but not now. He's still just an edgy character and people claim they only like well-written, complex characters but then go ahead and defend Scourge with their life. I can't wrap my head around liking him as much as the fandom does.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Apr 8, 2023 5:09:14 GMT -5
I think people mostly liked Tiny/Scourge because he was edgy. He was very popular in the fandom around 2009 and prior as well as further on (when Ashfur was too, which also included the now infamous crackship of Scourge x Ashfur, despite there being a huge age difference and Scourge being dead as well as them never interacting outside of Ashfur loudly making fun of BloodClan for wearing collars in TDH, that's why it was just a crackship though lol). I was one of the edgy teens who "fangirled" over edgy Scourge back then (drew overly edgy as well as crappy art and even painted a pre-made clay cat figure to look like him lmao). Sometimes, a character doesn't have to do much or appear much to leave an impression on people (all thanks to their vibe). Not an uncommon fandom phenomenon imo. I can understand the hype then, because it was 2009, but not now. He's still just an edgy character and people claim they only like well-written, complex characters but then go ahead and defend Scourge with their life. I can't wrap my head around liking him as much as the fandom does. I think it has a lot to do with nostalgia. He's a well-known character from the first arc (the last book lol), after all. Same with the ones from the second arc, to be honest (Squirrelflight, Leafpool, Mothwing, Crowfeather and Hawkfrost in particular). They've been talked about/present in the fandom for more than over a decade at this point and people have formed attachments towards them (sometimes more or less depending on personal preferences). Scourge is a so called fandom icon and has been for a long time, that's just how it is.
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Post by rabbit on Apr 8, 2023 6:48:55 GMT -5
Idk but I love how Scourge appears in The Darkest Hour and how he is portrayed as some sort of harbinger of death from the city by all the clan cats. He’s a cruel, cold-hearted outsider who doesn’t care about what the clan cats think if it doesn’t benefit him. Some the best parts of that book are with Scourge because of how abrupt his part is in the story.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Apr 8, 2023 7:28:26 GMT -5
Idk but I love how Scourge appears in Sunset and how he is portrayed as some sort of harbinger of death from the city by all the clan cats. He’s a cruel, cold-hearted outsider who doesn’t care about what the clan cats think if it doesn’t benefit him. Some the best parts of that book are with Scourge because of how abrupt his part is in the story. You meant The Darkest Hour, right? Although Scourge also does get mentioned in Sunset, albeit briefly, by Brambleclaw when thinking about how Tigerstar died due to Hawkfrost blaming Firestar for the death of their father, if I remember correctly...
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Post by rabbit on Apr 8, 2023 7:34:25 GMT -5
Oops the cover of the book had a sunset on it so I got mixed up. Lol
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Apr 8, 2023 7:41:33 GMT -5
Oops the cover of the book had a sunset on it so I got mixed up. Lol A sunrise, actually (if you mean the TDH cover). But yeah, Sunset got a sunset on it lol. Sorry for probably coming off as a know-it-all at this point lmao.
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Post by αɳσɱαʅყ on Apr 10, 2023 0:56:21 GMT -5
Berrynose. The dude bounced between being a bully to just downright annoying. And yet some people practically worship him. reality imitates fiction
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Post by nowarriornameshere on Apr 10, 2023 1:02:33 GMT -5
I couldn't even tell you, because that'd require me to remember their names. But just about every instance of people going "man, next book I hope (random one-off that I stan hard) gets a starring role" just has me wondering what the hell is up.
Ignoring those, Riverstar. Actual king of mid. I was baffled to learn that he's getting a Super Edition and was outright displeased to learn that he's going to be sticking his nose into Book 4 of the current arc soon. I don't care much for most DotC members, actually; Gray Wing was just a snooze for me outside of him being Thunder's real dad.
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Post by raincloud33 on Apr 10, 2023 1:06:25 GMT -5
Ivypool but it may just be in retrospect
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Post by xxstarzfall on Apr 10, 2023 13:06:21 GMT -5
When I say that Molewhisker and Scourge are plain toast cats, I don't mean it on the same level as Brackenfur. Brackenfur is a whole new level of plain toast cat. It's like... lightly toasted, stale, plain toast. I don’t want to start an argument but how is Scourge plain? I feel like he’s one of the most interesting characters
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Post by nowarriornameshere on Apr 10, 2023 15:02:57 GMT -5
When I say that Molewhisker and Scourge are plain toast cats, I don't mean it on the same level as Brackenfur. Brackenfur is a whole new level of plain toast cat. It's like... lightly toasted, stale, plain toast. I don’t want to start an argument but how is Scourge plain? I feel like he’s one of the most interesting characters In purely the context of Darkest Hour, he is a stone-cold bloodthirsty city cat that comes out of nowhere to do nothing other than one-up Tigerstar and become the final boss of the series. Add in Rise of Scourge and you get a backstory of abuse and being treated awfully by people around him just to become an even worse individual in turn. He's basically a barebones "Be careful who you called Tiny in middle school..." trope. This is probably a hot take but I've always viewed Scourge as one of the worst "final bosses" of the series and find that he only really works off of shock factor.
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Post by goldenwish on Apr 10, 2023 17:16:58 GMT -5
Bristlefrost, I feel like everyone loved her from the start of TBC and I just never understood it. Personally I think the character development of protagonists has declined immensely since the original series, TNP, and POT, and she in particular just didn’t have much of a personality in my opinion. I also found her to be a bit annoying / dramatic and just not super intelligent during her POV chapters.
It’s fine that others like her of course, I guess I’m just not a fan of how characters are developed nowadays.
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Apr 10, 2023 17:34:03 GMT -5
Ohh! I just realized it might be better if I included a broader topic!
So feel free to add any ships, books, arcs, scenes, or anything really that you just don’t get the hype around.
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Post by mothwhisker on Apr 10, 2023 20:24:33 GMT -5
Molewhisker. He's very plain and he was a good mentor at first but then he turned really impatient really fast. He never did anything really important besides going on the quest.
Feathertail. The love story between her and Crowfeather was cute and all but she was basically just a living Spottedleaf and she's now the replacement Spottedleaf in StarClan.
Scourge. He got two books. And everyone was so hyped about him after his graphic novel.. which I found really boring, actually.
Mothwing. I liked her more as a medicine cat apprentice. Now she's just..boring. And really irritating to. She didn't think twice to see Frostpaw's side in the new book Shadow (not gonna spoil anything), but I really dislike Mothwing in this new series.
Blackstar. He's very.. plain.
Jayfeather was my favorite character in PoT but in the newer arcs he's just getting more of a "grumpy cat with no personality other than being angry all the time". His POV made me really see more in him and now I see so little. He used to be on my top characters list but now he's not cuz he got so boring so fast.
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Apr 11, 2023 3:19:58 GMT -5
When I say that Molewhisker and Scourge are plain toast cats, I don't mean it on the same level as Brackenfur. Brackenfur is a whole new level of plain toast cat. It's like... lightly toasted, stale, plain toast. I don’t want to start an argument but how is Scourge plain? I feel like he’s one of the most interesting characters I've never found him interesting. I feel like his motives were flat and boring, as well as his backstory. I find that AUs of him are generally just more intriguing.
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Apr 11, 2023 3:20:58 GMT -5
Ohh! I just realized it might be better if I included a broader topic! So feel free to add any ships, books, arcs, scenes, or anything really that you just don’t get the hype around. mothpool... what's so good about it?? i never saw any chemistry with the two of them jaybriar and poppyjay are just boring to me (jayfeather doesn't deserve either of them)
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Post by moongloweevee on Apr 12, 2023 13:48:43 GMT -5
I honestly do not get the hype around Hollyleaf at all. She started off interesting as she wanted to be a medicine cat and then switched it up to become a warrior. She's a very boring character to read as her every living breath is based on the warrior code that it drove me insane to reread as she would say that something is against the warrior code and then proceeded to break said code for her own benefit. I just recently learned there were people rooting for her to become leader and it's like... why? She has the personality of a wet blanket. It would have been more interesting if she had the ability to heal with her paws and remained a medcat (like make wounds heal faster unknowingly for a bit).
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Apr 12, 2023 20:30:29 GMT -5
Ivypool and Berrynose.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Apr 12, 2023 20:33:37 GMT -5
Also I love how me randomly picking Molewhisker for my top future deputy picks and championing him two years ago has turned into so many people having opinions on him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2023 20:35:21 GMT -5
For books: A Shadow in Riverclan.
It's fine, but it's never been my favorite. Overall maybe I don't get the hype behind Feathertail.
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Post by Lionstrike on Apr 13, 2023 7:40:39 GMT -5
ASC Shadow spoilers: Squirrelflight- Oops, I mean Squirrelstar. No. Never. I don't like this new ThunderClan. We should just call it FireClan and be done with it.
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Post by TawnystarIsReal on Apr 13, 2023 9:13:31 GMT -5
Brambleclaw/star. I’ve seen people say he’s a good character but was written wrong and inconsistently. Bro was insufferable since day one and never got better💀
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Apr 13, 2023 9:22:52 GMT -5
i dont understand the hype around hawkash either. as in hawkfrost x ashfur it just seems heavily manipulative overall and ashfur has this big hatred for half clan cats and cats who break the code so why the hell would he do it
anyways i dont get the hype around sol. did yall know he won in a strongest villains poll against berryheart not only can berryheart fight (which sol can't because hes pathetic) but also she's done so much more than sol has already and shes had like 3 books lolllll
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Apr 13, 2023 12:53:43 GMT -5
Ohh! I just realized it might be better if I included a broader topic! So feel free to add any ships, books, arcs, scenes, or anything really that you just don’t get the hype around. TallxJake. To me it seems like the only reason most people like it is because it was the first semi-canon gay ship. The actual "relationship" itself was just kind of there and the two characters involved were both bland. I also have never understood the hype behind DOTC as an arc. The books were just aggressively mediocre to me.
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Post by 🔥Firestar🔥 on Apr 15, 2023 13:50:22 GMT -5
Bristlefrost. I never really found anything that made her so compelling and releatable, even when many people insisted it was because she didin't have any powers. Personally, i found her a bit bland compared to Rootspring and Shadowsight.
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