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Post by nettlefrost on Jan 28, 2023 22:20:33 GMT -5
I'm biased about what should Breezepelt's afterlife should be, after what he did in OotS and his redemption in CT, which afterlife do you think he deserves?
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Post by Jaysnow on Jan 28, 2023 22:25:18 GMT -5
Dark Forest, but the scumbag will most likely get StarClan anyway.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jan 28, 2023 22:37:42 GMT -5
idk why people r voting dark forest? just bc y'all hate him doesnt mean thats actually where he'll go. he has redeemed himself (even tho i agree with u guys that his redemption sucked. i still wish he got the windclan SE, not crowfeather...he deserved more development post-oots).
he's obviously going to starclan. he's been redeemed, is a family man, and is staying out of trouble and isnt involved in the recent arcs. he's just chillin. also one of his kids died too so theres that i guess.
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Post by Sphinxwhisker on Jan 28, 2023 23:35:17 GMT -5
He’s clearly going to Starclan. Even though I strongly detest his redemption, and put it up there with Clear sky’s in terms of unbelievability.
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Post by Fireleap on Jan 28, 2023 23:55:40 GMT -5
Breezepelt has never done anything wrong in his life, so StarClan it is.
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Post by Jaysnow on Jan 28, 2023 23:59:04 GMT -5
idk why people r voting dark forest? just bc y'all hate him doesnt mean thats actually where he'll go. he has redeemed himself (even tho i agree with u guys that his redemption sucked. i still wish he got the windclan SE, not crowfeather...he deserved more development post-oots). he's obviously going to starclan. he's been redeemed, is a family man, and is staying out of trouble and isnt involved in the recent arcs. he's just chillin. also one of his kids died too so theres that i guess. I voted DF because I personally think he belongs there. No hate for anyone who voted StarClan, but I feel he deserves nothing more than DF.
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Jan 29, 2023 0:43:07 GMT -5
StarClan, easily. He had a redemption arc. And the only reason he joined DF in the first place was because of Crowfeather, and the book makes that obvious. That might not be an excuse in our eyes, but it definitely is in the eyes of whoever the hell decides the plot of the books now.
Also, like I said, redemption arc. He's just a silly dad now, and honestly I wouldn't mind if he became leader. I'm usually against previously known characters becoming leader but I definitely would not mind a Breezestar. Crowfeather's gonna kick the bucket sooner or later (preferably in Shadow) and I'm pretty sure Breezepelt was a possibility that Harestar considered as a deputy.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jan 29, 2023 3:05:35 GMT -5
idk why people r voting dark forest? just bc y'all hate him doesnt mean thats actually where he'll go. he has redeemed himself (even tho i agree with u guys that his redemption sucked. i still wish he got the windclan SE, not crowfeather...he deserved more development post-oots). he's obviously going to starclan. he's been redeemed, is a family man, and is staying out of trouble and isnt involved in the recent arcs. he's just chillin. also one of his kids died too so theres that i guess. I voted DF because I personally think he belongs there. No hate for anyone who voted StarClan, but I feel he deserves nothing more than DF. ik the rules for starclan/dark forest isnt clear or consistent, but i believe if u die with no hatred for the clans, starclan/ancestors, or code in ur heart, then u can get into starclan the moment u die, even if moments before, u were bad.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jan 29, 2023 6:35:32 GMT -5
He is going to StarClan for sure.
Even though I still wish the "attacking his blind medicine cat brother Jayfeather and a pregnant Poppyfrost at the Moonpool" situation had gotten adressed/discussed more afterwards and he would have had at least apologized for it to them both (even if Jayfeather still would not have forgiven him which is fair and in his right to do so), Breezepelt did apologize to Lionblaze and did eventually end up regretting to have trained in the DF. He also made up/mended the strained relationship with his dad Crowfeather (whose neglect of him does serve as one explaination for him becoming a DF trainee but was not the only one since he also did so due to his hatred of his half-siblings and Leafpool).
His redemption in CT could have been done better but maybe it really was the point that it was only done to an extent and he was not fully forgiven by everyone (by Lionblaze but not Jayfeather for example). He still voiced his dissapproval for Squirrelflight in SqH and TBC (which take place after the events of CT) but there is no longer any true bitterness there though maybe still a bit of resentment as far as I can see. He mostly focuses on his family in WindClan these days and has been shown to have friendly moments with cats outside of his Clan (such as Daisy in her novella).
He seems fine and at peace with his life now.
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Post by 🌸🐥silvermoon2🐥🌸 on Jan 29, 2023 7:36:42 GMT -5
StarClan, he did some bad things like fighting for the Dark Forest in the the Great battle but he clearly mad up for them and wouldn't do anything like that now.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Jan 29, 2023 7:42:23 GMT -5
Make him patrol the border like Juniper-what's-his-face.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jan 29, 2023 11:09:58 GMT -5
He’s obviously going to StarClan, but I’d really like him to go to the dark forest. Why? Once Harestar dies, Crowfeather will be made Crowstar. Have Crowstar make Breezepelt deputy, and have Breezepelt kill Crowstar. I don’t care about the crap that went on in Crowfeather’s Trial, because I will pray for this to become cannon. I previously also would have liked to see that happen (Breezepelt becoming a villain again and killing his dad to become leader). Although my opinion nowadays after reading CT and other material after OotS again is that it would not only be a regression on part of his character development/redemption but also be a little too reminicent of Brokenstar killing his father Raggedstar to become leader. I still would like for Breezepelt to become leader instead of his father Crowfeather (or Heathertail becoming leader could be cool too). But in an honorable way on his part.
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Post by tigerheart on Jan 29, 2023 11:37:20 GMT -5
I think he will go to the Dark Forest based on how he acted in OotS. He tried to kill Jayfeather in The Fourth Apprentice!
He deserves to go to the Dark Forest.
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Post by *•.¸♡𝘥𝘢𝘸𝘯𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦♡¸.•* on Jan 29, 2023 14:03:07 GMT -5
He's not going anywhere but StarClan tbh. He's remained out of trouble for quite some time now and I think that despite his actions in OotS he's definitely redeemed himself (even though the factor of how well-written it was is still up for debate)
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Post by nowarriornameshere on Jan 30, 2023 4:30:34 GMT -5
StarClan, and by Jove if he gets the Dark Forest I want literally every last shitter who even slightly contributed to his life sucking ass to also go there.
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Post by ᦓρ꠸ᥴꫀᠻꪖꪀᧁ on Jan 30, 2023 7:14:20 GMT -5
He’s obviously going to StarClan, but I’d really like him to go to the dark forest. Why? Once Harestar dies, Crowfeather will be made Crowstar. Have Crowstar make Breezepelt deputy, and have Breezepelt kill Crowstar. I don’t care about the crap that went on in Crowfeather’s Trial, because I will pray for this to become cannon. I previously also would have liked to see that happen (Breezepelt becoming a villain again and killing his dad to become leader). Although my opinion nowadays after reading CT and other material after OotS again is that it would not only be a regression on part of his character development/redemption but also be a little too reminicent of Brokenstar killing his father Raggedstar to become leader. I still would like for Breezepelt to become leader instead of his father Crowfeather (or Heathertail becoming leader could be cool too). But in an honorable way on his part. I still do really want Breezepelt to kill Crowfeather in some way, but I get that it would be relative to Brokenstar and destroy his entire redemption arc. But perhaps he never really forgave his dad, and it was all just a play. As for it being similar to Brokenstar and Raggedstar, he could killl Crowfeather while he’s deputy thinking he’ll be made the next one. That would be similar to Tigerstar, except he won’t attempt to kill Harestar. Once Harestar dies (which I hope is soon, because ei think Harestar is not interesting at all) Breezepelt can become Breezestar. He won’t go against the code like Brokenstar did, but just be really power hungry. He’ll invade other clans often to get their territory even if they did nothing wrong, and maybe just out of anger. I doubt this would happen, but it would definitely have something going for WindClan in the next arc.
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Post by nowarriornameshere on Jan 30, 2023 10:23:16 GMT -5
I previously also would have liked to see that happen (Breezepelt becoming a villain again and killing his dad to become leader). Although my opinion nowadays after reading CT and other material after OotS again is that it would not only be a regression on part of his character development/redemption but also be a little too reminicent of Brokenstar killing his father Raggedstar to become leader. I still would like for Breezepelt to become leader instead of his father Crowfeather (or Heathertail becoming leader could be cool too). But in an honorable way on his part. I still do really want Breezepelt to kill Crowfeather in some way, but I get that it would be relative to Brokenstar and destroy his entire redemption arc. But perhaps he never really forgave his dad, and it was all just a play. As for it being similar to Brokenstar and Raggedstar, he could killl Crowfeather while he’s deputy thinking he’ll be made the next one. That would be similar to Tigerstar, except he won’t attempt to kill Harestar. Once Harestar dies (which I hope is soon, because ei think Harestar is not interesting at all) Breezepelt can become Breezestar. He won’t go against the code like Brokenstar did, but just be really power hungry. He’ll invade other clans often to get their territory even if they did nothing wrong, and maybe just out of anger. I doubt this would happen, but it would definitely have something going for WindClan in the next arc. I don't buy it. Of all the things that Breezepelt chased after even when he was evil, power was not one of them. He's never shown any interest in acquiring power. He wanted respect, fair treatment, and revenge, but authority or leadership? Pure OOC out of the blue just for the sake of trying to make him villainous again.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jan 30, 2023 11:11:42 GMT -5
I previously also would have liked to see that happen (Breezepelt becoming a villain again and killing his dad to become leader). Although my opinion nowadays after reading CT and other material after OotS again is that it would not only be a regression on part of his character development/redemption but also be a little too reminicent of Brokenstar killing his father Raggedstar to become leader. I still would like for Breezepelt to become leader instead of his father Crowfeather (or Heathertail becoming leader could be cool too). But in an honorable way on his part. I still do really want Breezepelt to kill Crowfeather in some way, but I get that it would be relative to Brokenstar and destroy his entire redemption arc. But perhaps he never really forgave his dad, and it was all just a play. As for it being similar to Brokenstar and Raggedstar, he could killl Crowfeather while he’s deputy thinking he’ll be made the next one. That would be similar to Tigerstar, except he won’t attempt to kill Harestar. Once Harestar dies (which I hope is soon, because ei think Harestar is not interesting at all) Breezepelt can become Breezestar. He won’t go against the code like Brokenstar did, but just be really power hungry. He’ll invade other clans often to get their territory even if they did nothing wrong, and maybe just out of anger. I doubt this would happen, but it would definitely have something going for WindClan in the next arc. You could always write an AU based on this idea. I highly doubt it will ever be canon though.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jan 30, 2023 11:15:16 GMT -5
I still do really want Breezepelt to kill Crowfeather in some way, but I get that it would be relative to Brokenstar and destroy his entire redemption arc. But perhaps he never really forgave his dad, and it was all just a play. As for it being similar to Brokenstar and Raggedstar, he could killl Crowfeather while he’s deputy thinking he’ll be made the next one. That would be similar to Tigerstar, except he won’t attempt to kill Harestar. Once Harestar dies (which I hope is soon, because ei think Harestar is not interesting at all) Breezepelt can become Breezestar. He won’t go against the code like Brokenstar did, but just be really power hungry. He’ll invade other clans often to get their territory even if they did nothing wrong, and maybe just out of anger. I doubt this would happen, but it would definitely have something going for WindClan in the next arc. I don't buy it. Of all the things that Breezepelt chased after even when he was evil, power was not one of them. He's never shown any interest in acquiring power. He wanted respect, fair treatment, and revenge, but authority or leadership? Pure OOC out of the blue just for the sake of trying to make him villainous again. I personally think Breezepelt could be a good leader in canon (or his mate Heathertail). Perhaps a bit more agressive on account of him wanting to protect WindClan and his family. But not an evil one by any means. He got over that type of behaviour after OotS and making him regress after making up with his dad and even Lionblaze would just mess up the redemption moments he did get during CT.
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Post by nowarriornameshere on Jan 30, 2023 12:53:23 GMT -5
I don't buy it. Of all the things that Breezepelt chased after even when he was evil, power was not one of them. He's never shown any interest in acquiring power. He wanted respect, fair treatment, and revenge, but authority or leadership? Pure OOC out of the blue just for the sake of trying to make him villainous again. I personally think Breezepelt could be a good leader in canon (or his mate Heathertail). Perhaps a bit more agressive on account of him wanting to protect WindClan and his family. But not an evil one by any means. He got over that type of behaviour after OotS and making him regress after making up with his dad and even Lionblaze would just mess up the redemption moments he did get during CT. Yeah, I definitely think he would be a good or at least well-intentioned leader if appointed to the role. I just don't see it as being an ambition of his, much less something he'd return to villainy over.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jan 30, 2023 13:01:41 GMT -5
I personally think Breezepelt could be a good leader in canon (or his mate Heathertail). Perhaps a bit more agressive on account of him wanting to protect WindClan and his family. But not an evil one by any means. He got over that type of behaviour after OotS and making him regress after making up with his dad and even Lionblaze would just mess up the redemption moments he did get during CT. Yeah, I definitely think he would be a good or at least well-intentioned leader if appointed to the role. I just don't see it as being an ambition of his, much less something he'd return to villainy over. Fully agree. Breezepelt never wanted power (just respect and to be accepted as you said). Which might actually be a good thing as a foundation for his leadership if he ever does end up in a powerful position in WindClan. Since he would do what is best for WindClan and not himself. Although one could argue that he might make questionable choices in their name or get corrupted by his high status allowing him more power in his Clan. But that is not something exclusive to Breezepelt as a character. Since a lot of characters could be written in that way. And also just a fanon speculation which does not even have to happen/become true.
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