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Post by finland on Jan 28, 2023 9:32:59 GMT -5
I hated it. It was just depressing and horrifying.
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Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on Jan 28, 2023 9:40:56 GMT -5
It was depressing and horrifying, and honestly that’s why I loved it. It was completely unexpected. It’s rare to see a POV character die at all, especially from their perspective - but to see them die a permanent death like that has never happened before, so I honestly loved that twist. It was really sad, but I think it was great for the story.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2023 9:47:57 GMT -5
It was depressing and horrifying, and honestly that’s why I loved it. It was completely unexpected. It’s rare to see a POV character die at all, especially from their perspective - but to see them die a permanent death like that has never happened before, so I honestly loved that twist. It was really sad, but I think it was great for the story. This, completely. We've all seen the same happy ending time and time again with Warriors, so Bristlefrost's permanent death was unique and a breath of fresh air. Stories don't need to have a happy ending in order to be good (in my opinion of course). It was well written over all. It was meant to be sad, surprising, hopeless even, and I feel that they really hit the mark with it.
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Post by Katanaheart on Jan 28, 2023 10:17:48 GMT -5
Loved it. It was surprising and somewhat shocking that the ThunderClan pov especially, was the one to be killed off.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Jan 28, 2023 10:18:31 GMT -5
I like it.
I agree that it really is sad and depressing, but I think it was one of the best ways for Bristlefrost to go. Her sacrifice was chilling but meaningful and her last thoughts were so bittersweet. I'm sure I would have liked her arc anyway, but Briss giving her life for all the Clans lets her shine the brightest. It's the biggest example of how loyal, brave, and caring she is.
She is the true definition of a warrior.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Jan 28, 2023 10:51:39 GMT -5
I disliked it mainly because we should have had that kind of fate happen to one of the Three during that big battle. Some warriors died, and Firestar died, but the Three lived. It didn't make that feel like a big battle at all.
With this, yeah, Bristlefrost died, but Bramblestar and Squirrelflight survived. It would have been bittersweet if one of them died. Especially Bramblestar because it brings the feeling of "we did this for nothing" despite everyone trying their best.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jan 28, 2023 12:07:36 GMT -5
Since I just read ALitM a few days ago (on the 26th to be exact), it's still fresh in my mind and I'm hopefully able to gather my thoughts on Bristlefrost's fate.
First of all, I cried reading it (chapter 18). Pretty sure I cried until the actual end of the book and then again while writing it all down on my TBC thread.
It was just so shocking despite me already knowing this happened from the spoiler thread back in Fall 2021 and various wiki articles.
Also, it was just heartbreaking. For Bristlefrost herself as well as her family and friends. For Rootspring (despite me never liking BristleRoot as a ship) and for Shadowsight due to his guilt over her sacrifice to safe him from Ashfur.
Love and hate it at the same time. Because it was effective in terms of the plot. But also sad due to her not deserving such a fate. Which is the whole point. Then again, she knew the consequences/was aware of the fate her action would bestow upon her.
Voted for Loved it (but also Hated it).
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Post by angyfrog on Jan 28, 2023 13:19:41 GMT -5
Definitely liked it, we avoided the fate of more cats that wouldn't have done anything, of the 3 I definitely think Bristle was the right choice, and I'm glad it was only her as much as I get everyone being tired of Squirrel/Bramble but I'd definitely prefer the two dying in any other book that isn't by the hands of Ashfur as if Ash got either he would've definitely "won" in some degree, dragging Squirrelflight to the pits of the abyss? Winning, dragging Bramblestar to the pits of the abyss? Sure not completely winning but his wife wouldn't be winning so I'm calling that a win! Honestly of all villains I definitely don't want Ashfur to win but let's be real here so far most if not all villains in Warriors are awful So I'm glad we got an unexpected outcome with Bristle, she might be gone forever thankfully but she won't disappear from the community for a long time, finally one of the modern cats gets to be shelved up there with Scourge, Jayfeather, the dozen or so other characters that somehow stay relevant
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Post by Jaysnow on Jan 28, 2023 13:22:04 GMT -5
I think it was a pretty interesting move. Definitely not one I expected the Erins to take, that’s for sure. Bristlefrost was the last cat I expected to die by the end of the arc, let alone permanently dying. I think it’s pretty cool that they did it. It means no one really has plot armor anymore.
But at the same time, I think it’s really cruel that she died so young and has absolutely no promise of an afterlife.
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Post by 🌸🐥silvermoon2🐥🌸 on Jan 28, 2023 14:05:40 GMT -5
I hated it, it was really sad and depressing. I think it would have been really cool if she had survived and been able to be with Rootspring and we would have got to see them together with their kits.
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Post by Hollyfall on Jan 28, 2023 14:07:58 GMT -5
At least she did and died doing something memorable rather than becoming a background cat with one or two lines every subsequent book
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Jan 28, 2023 14:09:40 GMT -5
loved it bc a horrible protagonist now ceases to exist
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Jan 28, 2023 16:28:29 GMT -5
Sad she's gone but her death was done pretty well in my opinion, will miss her dearly
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Post by *•.¸♡𝘥𝘢𝘸𝘯𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦♡¸.•* on Jan 28, 2023 16:51:28 GMT -5
It was an extremely bold move to kill her off but I think the way they did it was really well done and it was a bittersweet ending to Bristlefrost's character. Was it depressing? Extremely :')
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Post by Violet6Echoes on Jan 28, 2023 20:39:47 GMT -5
I LOVED IT. It was so interesting and it gave me goosebumps. It’s also horrifying because of my own personal fear of “ceasing to exist.” It was a very unexpected decision and that just makes it even better! And it only makes sense that she was killed off instead of Rootspring or Shadowsight
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Post by Sphinxwhisker on Jan 28, 2023 20:55:54 GMT -5
Neutral/No Opinion. Shocked and surprised they completely killed her off. But was poorly written, and felt so gimmicky imo like much of TBC that I was mostly indifferent by it.
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Post by nettlefrost on Jan 28, 2023 21:49:40 GMT -5
I hated it yet at the same time I'm okay with it, I believe it was an interesting plot-twist (Since the Erins usually don't kill a POV character) and such a wonderful way to rehabilitate her character, honestly. Was it sad? Yes, her death still makes me cry but it feels relieving that she was the Bristlefrost before the whole 'I met Rootspring for some days and now I'm in love with him' but the reason why I hate her death was because it was so anticlimactic and rushed (In my point of view) along with Snowtuft (who was a major character) I mean what was the necessary to kill them both for good in such a rushed way? I mean just think about it, Rootspring could've tried to save her; if he was capable of saving himself from the dark water just for his strong love for Bristlefrost then why couldn't he save her from the dark water to prove how much he loves her (I know Violetshine was there but that was just an excuse for Rootspring not save Bristlefrost, and to kill her for good). Lastly they didn't even bother to have the right cats in the battle against Ashfur, they didn't bother to have both Bramble and Squirrel present; they just completely brushed them off, why couldn't they add Brindleface or Ferncloud, or even at least one of the three's, that would've been so much better then what we got. Yeah I heavily dislike this book (or maybe even hate it) just by the terrible choices the Erins made, I'm dissapointed.
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Post by Numquam on Jan 28, 2023 21:55:03 GMT -5
I honestly liked it, pretty unexpected. Had she lived, she probably would've just become a generic background queen with litters of kits. Pretty boring I'd say
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Post by Jaggeddawn on Jan 28, 2023 22:46:43 GMT -5
I hated it. I absolutely love BristleRoot, and Bristlefrost is my fav character
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Post by vectoring34 on Jan 29, 2023 0:07:24 GMT -5
Heroes dying in action is always great stuff, what can I say. She got her Beowulf vs the dragon moment and her final lines are one of the better quotes in the series and the final spit in the face of Ashfur as his foil. Ashfur spent all of his life bitter over what he couldn't have, while Bristlefrost found peace in the thought of it.
Oh, and the way she relishes finally seeing Ashfur's face turn to fear is excellent.
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Post by Saint Ambrosef on Jan 29, 2023 1:14:18 GMT -5
It was fine I guess? Like the sacrifice was quite an unexpected shock, I just wish the story had made me more invested in her character so her death would have a bigger emotional impact. As it was, I was sad and upset by the initial idea of her death, but not specifically it being her death.
So… no opinion I guess.
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Post by vectoring34 on Jan 29, 2023 8:53:45 GMT -5
I wonder if Bristlefrost's character was created solely for this scene. I agree with everyone who said they loved her death. It actually made me like her more and helped me appreciate a character I would've ignored otherwise. If it never happened, I would've put Bristle in the category of "mid" protagonists. Her first scene is diving into a lake for the sake of Rootspring in order to save him. Either she was designed from the ground-up for that scene or someone noticed the parallel while writing ALITM
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Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on Jan 30, 2023 21:13:00 GMT -5
It was depressing and horrifying, and honestly that’s why I loved it. It was completely unexpected. It’s rare to see a POV character die at all, especially from their perspective - but to see them die a permanent death like that has never happened before, so I honestly loved that twist. It was really sad, but I think it was great for the story. This, completely. We've all seen the same happy ending time and time again with Warriors, so Bristlefrost's permanent death was unique and a breath of fresh air. Stories don't need to have a happy ending in order to be good (in my opinion of course). It was well written over all. It was meant to be sad, surprising, hopeless even, and I feel that they really hit the mark with it. Exactly! It kinda gets boring when you know the protagonists are going to survive every time. Bristlefrost's end was a shocking and much needed reality check - in this series, anybody can die, so we shouldn't get comfortable knowing our protagonists should survive. I'm hoping that at some point, we'll get a mid-arc protagonist death, but I'm not holding out much hope for that lmao.
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