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Post by ombredecorbeau2003 on Jan 17, 2023 18:04:05 GMT -5
I specify that apart from Outcast, Sign of the Moon, The Last Hope, Darkest Night and Yellowfang's Secret, I have not read the others but I found on the forum that they were generally the most hated books. So although I know the content of these books thanks to the spoiler, I would like you to tell me in the comments which book you hate the most and why. Personally, I love The Last Hope and I quite like Outcast, Sign of the Moon, Darkest Night and Yellowfang's Secret.
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Post by ombredecorbeau2003 on Jan 17, 2023 18:11:39 GMT -5
I think that Spottedleaf's Heart will be first in the pull and Squirrelflight's Hope after.
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Post by ombredecorbeau2003 on Jan 17, 2023 18:19:41 GMT -5
Tigerheart's Shadow thirth, I think, I saw that Tigerstar II was very hated on the forum with Dovewing. Redtail's Debt, fourth, with Redtail who kills Oakheart and firth, probably Leafpool's Wish, with Squirrelflight who adopted Leafpool's Kits because Yellowfang lied him.
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Post by SquipyCheetah on Jan 17, 2023 18:37:01 GMT -5
The only book I have any sort of problem with is Squirrelflight's Hope because of the characterization. I don't hate it though but I guess I'll go with that one.
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Jan 17, 2023 18:46:00 GMT -5
It's hard to pick between these two:
Redtail's Debt is so full of inconsistencies that make it confusing and almost unnecessary. Pebbleshine's Kits is just so boring and practically pointless.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2023 18:55:16 GMT -5
Spottedleaf's Heart, without a doubt.
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Post by Sphinxwhisker on Jan 17, 2023 19:02:15 GMT -5
The Raging Storm. Nothing really interesting or meaningful happens.
Pebbleshine’s Kit’s because I haven’t even finished it yet, and what I have read I only vaguely remember, except that it was very tedious.
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Jan 17, 2023 19:25:54 GMT -5
Squirrelflight’s Hope. There were a couple of good parts - mostly just having to do with Larksong, Sparkpelt, and Leafpool. The rest was … ehhh … hard to read.
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Post by Fireleap on Jan 17, 2023 19:35:10 GMT -5
The worst is easily Spottedleaf's Heart. Basic answer, but I honestly don't see how any book in this series is worse than that.
Redtail's Debt is bad, yes, but in my eyes it's more disappointing than anything. It could've been so great, yet what we got was a 100 continuity errors slapped into one book. Darkest Night and The Raging Storm were also hard to get through, but not as bad as the other two. The rest I either haven't read, find boring, or actually like.
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Jan 18, 2023 3:35:19 GMT -5
I think we all know the answer to this question.
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Post by The One and Only Moongaze on Jan 18, 2023 11:55:59 GMT -5
I couldn't even finish Sign of the Moon. I was warned about Spottedleaf's heart so I didn't even read it.
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Post by xxstarzfall on Jan 18, 2023 12:33:04 GMT -5
The entirety of the new prophecy and Spottedleaf’s heart suck. If you think the new prophecy was good you’re weird
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Post by Quill on Jan 18, 2023 12:40:51 GMT -5
It's between Redtail's Debt for the complete bungling of the canon plot and Spottedleaf's Heart for its character assassination and problematic content, but I went with Spottedleaf's Heart because I loved the first half of Redtail's Debt.
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Post by tigerheart on Jan 18, 2023 13:31:28 GMT -5
I did not like Bluestar’s Prophecy because she had to give away her kits so she could become deputy to stop Thistleclaw from being deputy.
It is all Thistleclaw’s fault.
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Post by Sphinxwhisker on Jan 18, 2023 14:40:22 GMT -5
The entirety of the new prophecy and Spottedleaf’s heart suck. If you think the new prophecy was good you’re weird I almost feel triggered or insulted /s. Of course each to their own. Personally TNP is one of my favorites.
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Post by tigerheart on Jan 18, 2023 15:01:20 GMT -5
TNP is great! I love it!!
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Post by xxstarzfall on Jan 18, 2023 15:23:17 GMT -5
That’s ok! It just wasn’t very interesting to me lol.
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Post by Stormwind on Jan 18, 2023 17:43:43 GMT -5
All of these books can be considered bad because of poor writing or controversial plot points, but Outcast sticks out to be because of how POINTLESS it was. You can cut that book out and nothing wouod change about the series. I think all the other books on this list would have some impact if you took them out, regardless of how big that impact is or whether or not thats a good thing.
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Post by tigerheart on Jan 18, 2023 18:13:37 GMT -5
True,Outcast has nothing to do with the Clans. Just with the Tribe of Rushing Water,which I don't care about in the slightest.
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Post by batfang on Jan 18, 2023 18:35:57 GMT -5
the thing that sucks about tribe-centered books is that the tribe itself doesn't add anything interesting. the tribe could have been a really cool moment to add to the worldbuilding, but every time they show up, the plot just ends up being the tribe has a problem --> clan cats deal with it. i personally really liked jayfeather's power and his connection to the tribe, i wish they delved into it more.
does anyone else actually agree with the stoneteller in outcast? the clan cats try to make the tribe like a clan, ignoring their own way of doing things and traditions. i would have liked to see a different way of resolving things than fighting.
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Post by tigerheart on Jan 18, 2023 21:07:02 GMT -5
The Clans sometimes want things to be their way of no way. Like ThunderClan sometimes. Don’t get me wrong,I love ThunderClan,but sometimes they can be overpowering.
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Post by daurianwind on Jan 19, 2023 1:42:25 GMT -5
Onestar Confession, the greatest fail, and I fink even can’t be called a book
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Post by The One and Only Moongaze on Jan 19, 2023 8:07:12 GMT -5
All of these books can be considered bad because of poor writing or controversial plot points, but Outcast sticks out to be because of how POINTLESS it was. You can cut that book out and nothing wouod change about the series. I think all the other books on this list would have some impact if you took them out, regardless of how big that impact is or whether or not thats a good thing. Same with sign of the moon
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jan 22, 2023 11:47:11 GMT -5
It's a tie between Outcast and Sign of the Moon for me in terms of main series books. And then a tie between Spottedleaf's Heart as well as Squirrelflight's Hope in terms of additional material.
Voted for Squirrelflight's Hope since I just prefer to ignore Spottedleaf's Heart these days (still consider it as canon though). Outcast and Sign of the Moon were just boring and pointless imo but SqH utterly infuriated me. There were only a few character moments/scenes that I liked. The rest (BrambleSquirrel, Tigerstar and The Sisters, Moonlight in particular) made me want to throw this book at a wall multiple times while reading it.
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Jan 22, 2023 21:57:07 GMT -5
The Place of No Stars is my most hated book. But since it wasn't listed, Spottedleaf's Heart is a very close second
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Post by vectoring34 on Jan 22, 2023 22:29:55 GMT -5
Anytime the Tribe shows up it's like a form of torture. Their only competition is the latter AVOS books, for being just as filler-y without at least the dignity to present a new environment as they spin their wheels doing nothing.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jan 23, 2023 4:35:05 GMT -5
The entirety of the new prophecy and Spottedleaf’s heart suck. If you think the new prophecy was good you’re weird Guess I'm the weirdest of them all then, since TNP is my favorite arc lmao (or I just have bad taste lol)
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Post by nowarriornameshere on Jan 23, 2023 18:51:44 GMT -5
As egregious as Spottedleaf's Heart is in terms of awful "conflicts" and outright character assassination, I don't hate it as much because I haven't cared about Spottedleaf since the original series and I never cared about Thistleclaw. The impact that Squirrelflight's Hope has had on the fandom's perception of her and Bramblestar, both as individuals and as a couple, is horrendous, and I actually like or used to like them.
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Post by *Ravenpaw* on Jan 23, 2023 21:05:44 GMT -5
The entirety of the new prophecy and Spottedleaf’s heart suck. If you think the new prophecy was good you’re weird - - But in all seriousness, Spottedleaf's Heart wasn't good. Spottedleaf didn't seem like herself. :/
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Post by finland on Jan 24, 2023 22:00:41 GMT -5
A Light in the Mist ruined the entire series for me
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