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Post by Jaysnow on Jan 2, 2023 14:41:14 GMT -5
As we all know, Bristlefrost died (permanently) during the events of A Light in the Mist. If the authors decided to bring her back (not to life, but as a spirit residing in StarClan) how would you feel?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2023 16:08:16 GMT -5
The impact her death had would be completely gone in my opinion. Bristlefrost's death was one of the best written and one of the most impactful in the series, and to me bringing her back would waste that.
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Post by Leonard on Jan 2, 2023 16:19:11 GMT -5
I'd hate that. It would kill any trust I have remaining for the writers. With that there'd be no real surprises possible if they could and were willing to undo them.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jan 2, 2023 16:19:51 GMT -5
While I do agree that Bristlefrost's death was especially impactful/shocking due to her getting killed off permanently in the TBC finale, I'm not of the opinion that it would loose all of that impact if she had "just died once and became a StarClan spirit" instead.
Because the same happened with Firestar (dying and ascending to StarClan) and his death still impacted a lot of readers (myself included) to stop either reading the series (myself included again albeit only temporarily) or at least see it as the end of an era for the franchise overall. Granted, he had a much bigger role to play previously (was a prophecy cat and leader) but still. Just wanted to use him as a not so fitting example, I guess. And besides, while a protagonist getting killed off from their own PoV has been done before (with Flametail), Bristlefrost's death in this regard would also still have a certain weight to it since this method had not been used in a while by the writers.
So yeah, if Bristlefrost had died only once and became a spirit or was brought back by StarClan to become one, I think her legacy of dying to kill Ashfur once and for all would still have an impact. Perhaps a lesser one to an extent. But an impact in the story and on the readers nonetheless. And if she only showed up to medicine cats and Rootspring would somehow be unable to ever interact with her via his powers while he was alive himself, it would also give their story a level of bittersweet tragedy (albeit again to a lesser extent as to what actually happened during canon). Another idea would be that Shadowsight could perhaps be the only living cat able to interact with Bristlefrost in her spirit form. So that she became the only StarClan spirit he would be allowed to/capable to communicate with apart from Ashfur. *Writes it down as an AU idea.*
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Post by Violet6Echoes on Jan 2, 2023 16:20:13 GMT -5
No. The reason her death was so sad and so good was because of the fact that unlike other deaths, we know that she isn’t coming back. Even as I reread her death over and over again it still gives me goosebumps. But the affect would just be completely gone if she came back.
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Post by Sphinxwhisker on Jan 2, 2023 16:41:39 GMT -5
My reaction would be equivalent to the Cinderpelt/Cinderheart nonsense. Frustrated/irked and robbed. Because it would completely devalue the meaning and poignancy of her sacrifice, and would no longer feel like a momentous, valorous and selfless action of forgoing her happy ending to insure the safety of the clans. The first time was a huge mistake, there’s reasons it generated so much backlash and controversy. And if they brought Bristlefrost, it would undoubtedly generate a ton of negative buzz. Plus would make previous deaths and future ones not feel nearly as impactful, and reduced to shock value. Because there’d be a questioning voice in my head thinking, “okay, is this character truly gone forever? Or are they going to possibly be revived as the authors deem fit?” And would also be extremely unfair to the countless kits that have died throughout the series but were never given a second chance to live. It’s just a really bad idea all around in my opinion.
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Post by Jayie on Jan 2, 2023 16:46:34 GMT -5
I forget who made it, but I saw a short ficlet on Tumblr where Briss stayed in a sort of state of non-existence for countless generations, long enough for Rootspring to die and spend so long in StarClan that his legacy was finally forgotten in the living world. Only then, when both cats were forgotten, did they both get reborn in the living world, finally given a second chance to live and to be together. That’s the way I’d like to think of things happening - still long and impactful enough not to take away from Briss’s tragic death, but still with that hint of hope at the end.
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Post by Violet6Echoes on Jan 2, 2023 16:49:02 GMT -5
I forget who made it, but I saw a short ficlet on Tumblr where Briss stayed in a sort of state of non-existence for countless generations, long enough for Rootspring to die and spend so long in StarClan that his legacy was finally forgotten in the living world. Only then, when both cats were forgotten, did they both get reborn in the living world, finally given a second chance to live and to be together. That’s the way I’d like to think of things happening - still long and impactful enough not to take away from Briss’s tragic death, but still with that hint of hope at the end. no wait I like this one. This is the only acceptable way that they could go through with bringing back Bristlefrost
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Post by Quill on Jan 2, 2023 16:55:40 GMT -5
Absolutely not
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Post by thewinterblaze on Jan 2, 2023 17:42:57 GMT -5
No. As others have said, the only reason her death scene was so impactful and tragic is because of the fact that she's gone for good. Before, most death scenes were basically a 'How sad! Anyway' type of thing because we knew they'd be resurrected in StarClan.
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Post by Hollyfall on Jan 2, 2023 18:08:39 GMT -5
Bringing her back would just make her sacrifice pointless. Her dying twice is meant to be poignant and bittersweet, while reviving her just erases it.
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Post by dahliadove - #1 nightpelt fan on Jan 3, 2023 1:37:22 GMT -5
No. Keep her dead. I wouldn't get goosebumps whenever I think of her if I knew she just magically came back to life. I'm pretty sure even that one person who loves Bristlefrost would agree with me, the tragedy of her character's death is what makes her unique. Not only that, but it'd ruin Rootspring for me. Him being silently devastated about her death is enough, I didn't like him before that.
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Post by Brownkitty on Jan 3, 2023 2:29:48 GMT -5
I like Bristlefrost, but her coming back would be very weird.
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Post by Golden⚜️Lynx on Jan 3, 2023 5:58:30 GMT -5
I'd like to know where she went after drowning but I'm against the unnecessary revival of the character.
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Post by Jaysnow on Jan 3, 2023 6:14:15 GMT -5
I'd like to know where she went after drowning but I'm against the unnecessary revival of the character. She vanished into nothingness.
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Post by BҽɾɾყႦʅσσɱ on Jan 3, 2023 6:36:09 GMT -5
I'd like to know where she went after drowning but I'm against the unnecessary revival of the character. She went to the after-afterlife and is now stuck forever with Ashfur in a sitcom like state where him and Hawkfrost are annoying her to no end while she is continuously trying to avoid Tigerstar, Brokenstar and Darkstripe. Spottedleaf is there too, of course and the only truly sane one with her lol. Yes, I got this idea initially from tumblr where there are a few AUs centered around the double dead cats of this series and it's hysterical. Other add ons/contributions include Antpelt, Shredtail, Snowtuft, Redwillow and Darktail. Maybe Snowtuft and Redwillow are Bristlefrost's allies there too though. But anyways, it sure is a party of double dead kitties at this point. Good for them, honestly. Because now none of them have to ever be alone again lmao.
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Post by Bristleflight-bristlefrost! on Jan 3, 2023 8:53:16 GMT -5
No but what someone else said only when there bouth forgotten. Which will be a long time.
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Jan 3, 2023 11:13:47 GMT -5
I have really mixed feelings on this. On one hand, I feel like bringing Bristlefrost back would decrease the impact that her death had, but also I really hate the whole double dying thing.
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Post by Ivyfalcon on Jan 3, 2023 23:10:10 GMT -5
I have really mixed feelings on this. On one hand, I feel like bringing Bristlefrost back would decrease the impact that her death had, but also I really hate the whole double dying thing. Agree completely. At this point I think bringing her back would just be bad writing for all of the reasons above for why people said no. At the same time, I dislike the permadeath/fading concept and also I don’t like that it’s possible to go from being alive to permanently gone without being a StarClan/Dark Forest spirit in between. I think the explanation is supposed to be that it was the Dark Forest water or something but that just doesn’t really personally satisfy me as an explanation. Honestly I just headcanon that double-dead cats do still exist but are separated and just can’t communicate like StarClan/Dark Forest cats do.
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Jan 5, 2023 7:00:11 GMT -5
I feel like it would cheapen the impact of her death in the first place, so it would be bad writing at that point, as much as I like her character.
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Post by Jaggeddawn on Jan 28, 2023 22:51:57 GMT -5
It hurts me to say this, but... no. It just makes such a better story, and bringing her back completely ruins her sacrifice.
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Post by Jaggeddawn on Jan 28, 2023 22:53:26 GMT -5
No. Keep her dead. I wouldn't get goosebumps whenever I think of her if I knew she just magically came back to life. I'm pretty sure even that one person who loves Bristlefrost would agree with me, the tragedy of her character's death is what makes her unique. Not only that, but it'd ruin Rootspring for me. Him being silently devastated about her death is enough, I didn't like him before that. I agree, except for the Rootspring part- I always liked Root.
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Post by finland on Jan 29, 2023 10:56:59 GMT -5
I headcanon that she was reborn as a kit but all of her memories have been lost forever. So she’s still here.
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Post by vectoring34 on Jan 29, 2023 11:52:46 GMT -5
The logical part of me says no, she shouldn't be brought back because that's part of the tragedy.
The emotional side of me wrote a fic where she became a wandering spirit in the Dark Forest, seeking to make it better for future generations rather than a place where evil just festers.
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Post by 🌸🐥silvermoon2🐥🌸 on Jan 29, 2023 15:52:30 GMT -5
I wouldn't like that, even though I was very sad about her death and wish she didn't die, it would ruin the whole impact of her death and sacrifice.
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Post by Jaggeddawn on Jan 29, 2023 19:41:50 GMT -5
I headcanon that she was reborn as a kit but all of her memories have been lost forever. So she’s still here. yes! As Bristlekit! It's Cinderheartpelt again!
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Jan 30, 2023 9:19:11 GMT -5
I headcanon that she was reborn as a kit but all of her memories have been lost forever. So she’s still here. yes! As Bristlekit! It's Cinderheartpelt again! Plot twist: Bristlefrost was actually reborn as Streamkit.
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Post by Jaggeddawn on Jan 30, 2023 20:19:39 GMT -5
Sorry I don't recognise Streamkit, could you jog my memory? I've only read up to River, so if Streamkit's born in Sky I won't recognise the kit...
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Post by 𝙵𝚎𝚛𝚛𝚎𝚝𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚙 on Jan 30, 2023 20:27:13 GMT -5
Sorry I don't recognise Streamkit, could you jog my memory? I've only read up to River, so if Streamkit's born in Sky I won't recognise the kit... No worries haha. Streamkit was born in between A Light in the Mist and River, with her parents being Slatefur and Cinnamontail of ShadowClan. She’s a gray tabby, so I thought it would be funny if instead of being reborn as the obvious choice Bristlekit, Bristlefrost was reborn as Streamkit who looks similar to her.
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Post by 𝔯𝔞𝔟𝔟𝔦𝔱𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔰𝔱 on Jan 30, 2023 21:15:45 GMT -5
Absolutely not, I would hate it. It would completely defeat the purpose of her permanent death, not to mention the impact it had. Knowing there's such thing as a permanent death in Warriors is important, it makes it all a little riskier since we know they go to StarClan after death usually.
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