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Post by Mistybreeze on Feb 8, 2022 20:56:58 GMT -5
Okay, first impressions! Allegiances are a mixed bag. I am really getting sick of honor names in Warriors. Especially since at least two of the new litters have them. Frostkit, Leafkit, and something unrelated to Graystripe would have been much better. We did not need another TigerxDove litter, but at least they'll be older than any grandkits. H*ll to the yes SlatexCinnamon! Also a-okay with four kits since they're both new bloodlines. I really wish we had the mates of everyone else. No RiverClan kits is a first. They always have at least one litter.
I once again love all of our protags. Flamepaw reminds of Alderheart, but with a lot less anxiety. I like how they are handling the legacy aspect so far. Failing his warrior assessment is an interesting twist.
Okay, Frostpaw is my favorite. I love the super eager but still tries to be serious characters. I had the biggest grin on my face while reading her chapter.
Romance right off the bat for Sunbeam? I really hope they don't go StemxBristle 2.0. Blazefire has always been a good cat. PLEASE DON'T RUIN HIM EDITORS!! Although...we have never had an arc with the perspective of a queen before. Maybe they'll go that route?
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Post by *Faith* on Feb 8, 2022 20:59:28 GMT -5
All in all, I'm really liking this book so far. They are even giving personalities to background characters.
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Post by Skypaw13 on Feb 8, 2022 21:01:40 GMT -5
This is the most generic introduction to a Warriors arc I've ever seen. Literally all seven of the preceding arcs had something new happen in the first few chapters. Most interesting thing here isn't until chapter 3.
I'm not saying it's bad, necessarily... it's just... generic. Maybe that's just because it's literally the 8th arc and any series would get old after a while, but I feel like they could have come up with way better introductions for Frostpaw and Flamepaw. Even Dovepaw's intro in arc 4 was more unique than this.
Also, *respect for Jayfeather has fallen an additional 10%*
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Post by Katanaheart on Feb 8, 2022 21:05:50 GMT -5
I’m probably most annoyed at Dovewing getting a second litter since she still has no dead kits from the first one. Ehhh, bright side she at least has still never had an apprentice, which is a small victory I’ll take. Also yes, Graypaw, for the obviously silver tabby… Mistpaw’s description is so far superior to her sister, who’s just a plain and boring light Gray like our other gray she-cat protagonists. I would have even taken Frost and Gray’s colors to swap, at least than Graypaw’s name would make sense. On the bright side, I love that one of Hawkwing’s sisters are having kits, both of their descriptions are cute. Cinnamon tail having kits also means there is some half loner blood in ShadowClan and I like all of their names as well. Kinda disappointed with Spotfur’s litter as a whole though, with Dovewing’s second litter only getting a pass because of the tree/grandfather theme, instead of straight honor-naming.
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Post by Rainfire on Feb 8, 2022 21:19:20 GMT -5
I only read the allegiances and I already cherish the new DoveTiger kits soooooo much. I hope we get to see a lot of them <3 And yay, we finally meet the StemSpot kits! I love their names and especially their descriptions!
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Post by *Faith* on Feb 8, 2022 21:22:34 GMT -5
Kitescratch for Blossomheart's mate? One of her kits is literally described as reddish with a white nose. Not sure about Larkwing, though.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Feb 8, 2022 21:27:10 GMT -5
Kitescratch for Blossomheart's mate? One of her kits is literally described as reddish with a white nose. Not sure about Larkwing, though. if larkwing's mate isn't slightfoot, im going to cry
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Post by Katanaheart on Feb 8, 2022 21:32:15 GMT -5
Kitescratch for Blossomheart's mate? One of her kits is literally described as reddish with a white nose. Not sure about Larkwing, though. Ooooh, that would be interesting! She’s much older than him though but a reverse on ThornXBlossom would be interesting. Plus both of Hawkwing’s sisters seem very mature to me. (If memory serves, Blossomheart stayed in the Clan and Cloudmist stayed with Barley and Cherrytail, if my memory serves me.)
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Feb 8, 2022 21:39:39 GMT -5
Kitescratch for Blossomheart's mate? One of her kits is literally described as reddish with a white nose. Not sure about Larkwing, though. Ooooh, that would be interesting! She’s much older than him though but a reverse on ThornXBlossom would be interesting. Plus both of Hawkwing’s sisters seem very mature to me. (If memory serves, Blossomheart stayed in the Clan and Cloudmist stayed with Barley and Cherrytail, if my memory serves me.)
cloudmist returned since GV i think? i think she might have returned earlier but just wasnt listed?
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Feb 8, 2022 21:47:26 GMT -5
I'm just glad we finally have something! SpirexFringe was something I wasn't expecting at all, but okay. Always nice to see forbidden relationships going on in the background.
I'm not at all surprised that Dovewing had more kits and I liked that she named them one of them after Rowanstar.
Baypaw seems friendly, I find it interesting that Sparkpelt initially neglecting her kits while they were still so young actually had an impact on at least one of them and I'm looking forward to seeing that explored more, RIP Jayclaw, Frostpaw seems cute, I like that Lightleap seems to be a bit of a risk taker, and nothing bad better happen to SunxBlaze ever!
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#a3c5e6
Name Colour
𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵
Warrior Fanatic
All hail me, the flower-flushing queen of Prague
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Post by 𝓣𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓿𝓲𝓮𝓵 on Feb 8, 2022 21:57:40 GMT -5
I thought you shipped Rootspring with Turtlecrawl? Or am I thinking of someone else? i ship him with both turtle and fringe. turtle is my first choice, but if fringe is being forced into a stupid cross clan relationship with spireclaw,, i'll be so pissed anyways. Turtlecrawl I can understand if you're going with a rivals-to-lovers kind of thing (really would've loved to have seen her and Kitescratch develop more), but why Fringewhisker? She never even appeared in TBC and I do mean that literally.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Feb 8, 2022 21:59:52 GMT -5
i ship him with both turtle and fringe. turtle is my first choice, but if fringe is being forced into a stupid cross clan relationship with spireclaw,, i'll be so pissed anyways. Turtlecrawl I can understand if you're going with a rivals-to-lovers kind of thing (really would've loved to have seen her and Kitescratch develop more), but why Fringewhisker? She never even appeared in TBC and I do mean that literally. early on in TBC, me and chicken shipped her with root because she had a mellow personality from what little we got of her. we headcanoned that she would balance out root's louder personality. he matured as TBC went on though, so i think they'd still compliment each other now. it's too bad if she's the cat with spireclaw...i dont see why spireclaw out of all cats...
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Post by *Faith* on Feb 8, 2022 22:23:05 GMT -5
Seems Spireclaw and Fringewhisker happened during TBC sometime. Especially given that neither cat even appeared in that arc. I wonder how Sunbeam is going to react since she seems to be a bit of a rule follower, the complete opposite of her sister Needletail.
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Post by *•.¸♡𝘥𝘢𝘸𝘯𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦♡¸.•* on Feb 8, 2022 22:30:56 GMT -5
Spotfur’s kits names aren’t that bad but I HATE that they named one after Graystripe, both Stemleaf and Bristlefrost actually have prefixes that are unique, Frostpaw’s sibling is literally named Graypaw. Bloomkit should’ve been the name of the last kit, though I do love the name Bloomkit and I hope she and her siblings get focus, maybe one of them being Sunbeam’s apprentice, though it’s more likely that TigerDove’s second litter will be apprenticed to Sunbeam
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Post by *•.¸♡𝘥𝘢𝘸𝘯𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦♡¸.•* on Feb 8, 2022 22:42:07 GMT -5
MY EXACT REACTION. WHY GIVE DOVE X TIGER A SECOND LITTER IM SO PISSED
larkwing's mate better be slightfoot. and i don't want spireclaw x frignewhisker to happen because i shipped rootspring with fringewhisker! but im glad cinnamontail's mate is slatefur. i'm happy my boy slatefur is getting something. and im pissed about frostpaw's sister being a beautiful caliby...like why make the protag plain gray when the sister is literally so much more interesting looking? it's just so stupid how they keep making protags look less interesting compared to others around them; even worse when its the protag's sibling. and im SUPER PISSED about spotfur's kits having lame names. no sproutkit, no gladekit, nothing. just boring bristle, stem, and gray. why? just because graystripe died? boo. so boring and disappointing. Her name is even MISTPAW, they could’ve just switched her and Frostpaw’s descriptions. We’ve never had a tortoiseshell main series protagonist and we have a gray one every single arc
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Post by Mau Furlong on Feb 8, 2022 22:53:04 GMT -5
Which cats have died between arcs? Sry i dont know how to spoiler thing...
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Post by *Faith* on Feb 8, 2022 23:12:51 GMT -5
Which cats have died between arcs? Sry i dont know how to spoiler thing... I think Jayclaw is the only one dead for certain. Flipclaw was already gone from the allegiances of TPONS and ALITM, so it's kind of hard to tell with him. Especially since he was still around in both of those books.
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Post by ᏞᎪᎠᎽ Ꮎf fᎪᏁᎠᎾms ミ☆ on Feb 8, 2022 23:18:04 GMT -5
MY EXACT REACTION. WHY GIVE DOVE X TIGER A SECOND LITTER IM SO PISSED
larkwing's mate better be slightfoot. and i don't want spireclaw x frignewhisker to happen because i shipped rootspring with fringewhisker! but im glad cinnamontail's mate is slatefur. i'm happy my boy slatefur is getting something. and im pissed about frostpaw's sister being a beautiful caliby...like why make the protag plain gray when the sister is literally so much more interesting looking? it's just so stupid how they keep making protags look less interesting compared to others around them; even worse when its the protag's sibling. and im SUPER PISSED about spotfur's kits having lame names. no sproutkit, no gladekit, nothing. just boring bristle, stem, and gray. why? just because graystripe died? boo. so boring and disappointing. Her name is even MISTPAW, they could’ve just switched her and Frostpaw’s descriptions. We’ve never had a tortoiseshell main series protagonist and we have a gray one every single arc 100% agree.
i wanted frostpaw to be a chocoalte/lilac shaded cat (sort of a silvery-brown looking gradient color). and i also hc'd mistpaw as lightbrown like curlfeather, and graypaw....should have been gray...not silver...
frostpaw could have taken EITHER of her sibling's designs and be 100x better! it's baffling they want ANOTHER plain gray protag. WHEN WILL WE GET A TORTIE/CALICO PROTAG.
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Feb 9, 2022 1:46:41 GMT -5
AHH FINALLY TY I LOVED THIS SO MUCH -All the protagonist are unique from each other, and I love each direction that was taken with them. -Also my poor girl Lightleap. -Spotfur's kits names makes sense, little boring but Idm as long as they're characters. -Flamepaw's idea is a good one. I like him a lot. Wish we got more on Finchpaw though, wonder if she's evil - Frostpaw is SO CUTE - Sunbeam's personality is so charming and cool
Overall I am so exited for this book to come out
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Post by kells on Feb 9, 2022 2:14:09 GMT -5
Everyone's talking about the honor names and TigerDove litter sequel and I'm over here growing gray hairs wondering why tf Spotfur named her ORANGE and WHITE kit after BRISTLEFROST and not the one kit of hers that has a semblance of gray on it.
And we also have Dovewing naming her DARK GRAY kit after the ORANGE cat Rowanstar. I mean, at least Birchkit was brown? I already love Sunbeam. Adult cat with established relationship? Man, I haven't had that since DotC! Sign me UP. I'm ecstatic. Flamepaw and Frostpaw may exist with their Inevitable, Mandatory Forbidden Romance™ featuring Dead Dad Parallels, but man. Sunbeam exists. That's all I need. I'm happy.
The only bad thing that could come out of this is the Erins snatching the rug from under our feet and giving us a repeat of BumblexDovexTiger but instead it's SunxBlazexSomeRandomTomFromAnotherClan
Jokes aside, I don't know what to think. I really don't know if I'm excited for this arc or not. RiverClan POV and Sunbeam is nice, sure, but again the focus, or at least some of the focus, is on cross-Clan relationships.
I just hope the arc tackles it well this time.
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Feb 9, 2022 2:36:09 GMT -5
NOOOOO I DON'T WANT SUNBEAM X BLAZEFIRE WE NEED A FEMALE PROTAGONIST WITHOUT A LOVE INTEREST OMG
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Post by crowspirit on Feb 9, 2022 6:04:32 GMT -5
I just wanted to say that I'm really glad that even though we got so many new kits, Twigbranch didn't get any. I still headcanon her as Asexual (and since I'm AroAce myself I long for representation) and after the Finleap incident, I just hope they stay a kitless couple. Luckily, the editors seem to think so as well.
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Post by Mau Furlong on Feb 9, 2022 6:52:23 GMT -5
Which cats have died between arcs? Sry i dont know how to spoiler thing... I think Jayclaw is the only one dead for certain. Flipclaw was already gone from the allegiances of TPONS and ALITM, so it's kind of hard to tell with him. Especially since he was still around in both of those books. Is it told how he died?
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Post by twigfrost on Feb 9, 2022 7:03:20 GMT -5
I think Jayclaw is the only one dead for certain. Flipclaw was already gone from the allegiances of TPONS and ALITM, so it's kind of hard to tell with him. Especially since he was still around in both of those books. Is it told how he died? we aren’t told much, other then frostpaw having a dream of him leaving her alone in camp, and then he died a few days later.
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Post by Mau Furlong on Feb 9, 2022 7:23:28 GMT -5
we aren’t told much, other then frostpaw having a dream of him leaving her alone in camp, and then he died a few days later. Ok ty
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Post by ✲ριкαƒυєу✲ on Feb 9, 2022 7:44:21 GMT -5
I really like how this is going so far! I also really like Flamepaw. I hope they don't forget his friendship with Baypaw later down the road!
I also love how Sunbeam is a stickler for the rules, the complete opposite of her older sister! Kinda wonder if knowing what happened to Needletail influenced that at all. I'd love to see what she thinks of her.
Mothwing seems rather...detached from Frostpaw imho. I wonder if taking another apprentice so soon after Willowshine is weighing on her a lot? I also like how the mentioned Shadowsight had tons of scars. I'd be mad if he didn't lol
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Post by ❅Maplefrost❅ on Feb 9, 2022 9:43:48 GMT -5
Uh...where to begin. Besides the obvious stuff, like not being fond of the second DoveTiger litter, nor the legacy names that were given to the Spotfur kits, I want to focus more on the three protagonists. And not their descriptions either, I agree I want more variety, but I've given up hope for that a long time. And I'm more interested in their character development, story, and personality anyways. (But I do hope a lot of names in the allegiances aren't final, along with some descriptions.)
That being said, the prologue was interesting. I didn't expect a POV from a background forbidden relationship, and it's all but confirmed to be Fringe x Spire. I'm not against the idea of them, but I am annoyed that forbidden relationships, in general, will probably be important in this series as well, especially if they're opening up the prologue with it. I don't mind Fringe x Spire if it means they don't have annoying drama, and just plan to switch clans, similar to what BristleRoot planned to. Still, I wish we had seen how they reacted when the changes to the code didn't cater to the plights of their type of relationship. Rootspring somewhat tried to go into it, but overall it doesn't seem like it was changed in the previous arc.
I overall liked Flamepaw, I liked his personality, he seems like he wants to be loud-spoken and confident, but can't, however, he's not too anxious-filled either, like Alderheart. Baypaw seems like a nice lad, so I hope they stay good friends, maybe give us the old days of Fire/Gray type beat. I found it interesting that Flamepaw has a strained relationship with his mother, I'm glad the effects of Sparkpelt keeping her distance is showing. Flamepaw's mentality of wanting to be his own person, his issues with being named after Firestar despite not looking like him at all, and his desperation of wanting to prove himself to others. I wonder if ThunderClan's focus will be on "legacy", especially considering the naming of Spotfur's kits. I'm curious. I liked that he also failed his assessment, and the looked of disappointment and concern was noted in Lilyheart's eyes. I wonder what will happen now...I'm sure he feels a lot of shame and embarrassment, but how will the other cats look at him once they find out he failed his assessment...How much more pressure will he have to deal with while he's put on a constant pedestal because of his bloodline?
When it comes to Frostpaw, her theme seems to be more focused on her wanting to be special, or feeling special, because of her position. Her dreams seem to be predictions, but they're quite ominous, which is quite interesting. Somewhat refreshing. The fact that she predicted her own father's death...is very sad, and her mother's overprotective helicopter behavior makes sense, but it's kinda smothering. I wonder how this will develop, and how it will affect Frostpaw as she gets older. I like that her siblings are very supportive of her, and the idea of Mothwing being "so so" with her has me curious. It's obvious Mothwing cares about her, as an apprentice, but she's also quite brisk, and somewhat distant, I wonder if it's because she's still grieving over Willowshine and still holding guilt about her death. She probably doesn't want to go through that again. I liked the details of the ancients being mentioned, and I hope Whisperpaw and Frostpaw become good friends. I agree with Mothwing about Shadowsight being weird and brave, but imo mostly weird, and seeing Frostpaw notice the two of them standing back while the others used the Moonpool was a good detail too. It's saddening that Mothwing will never be able to see Willowshine again until she herself joins StarClan, but I'm interested to see how Willow and Frostpaw's meeting will go.
Lastly Sunbeam, I don't mind Sunbeam, in fact, I like her character so far, I will say her chapter was a bit more boring compared to the other two until it picked up halfway. Starting with her and Blazefire's relationship, I'm not against it, in fact, I like it, it seems healthy, and the teasing is just that, teasing in an affectionate manner. But it seems that Sunbeam can sometimes not be sure, which is normal, imo, sometimes there can be miscommunication in relationships, and how one person can perceive what another person says, it happens. I do hope their relationship stays healthy though, I kinda want a main protagonist with a healthy relationship, especially since the development for these two is preestablished. I'm happy for Cinnamon and Slate, a good couple there. I like that Blaze doesn't want an apprentice, and I also like how Sun follows the rules a lot, opposite of her sister, and the reasoning behind her name is cute. On the other hand, I'm not too fond of Lightleap, glad she finally got some character, let's be real the DoveTiger daughters were starving for any type of personality or development. But I do find Lightleap unlikable, regardless, she's not a very good friend, and the way she undermined her sister, because she's envious, was so baffling. One moment she's praising her, the next she's gloating she could so better. And then her being very reckless was a bit angering, part of me wish she plopped to the ground instead so she'd learn her lesson. It didn't help that she made Sunbeam lie, and also didn't seem to care that Sunbeam was hurt, she was more concerned about not getting in trouble herself, and didn't even stick around to support her friend. She felt ungrateful, so I didn't care for her. But I am curious as to what Shadowsight will do, I wonder if he'll tell his father about what happened?
The last thing I wanna talk about is the continuity in these chapters so far. Mentioning family relationships, like foster siblings, grandparents, bloodlines, and even pointing out how names don't mate descriptions, etc. It's refreshing to read about. Background characters have personalities, and some might even have important plot set-ups, if the prologue is anything to go by. It feels generic, but considering how bad the long line of previous books has been, this one feels "new". I'm also glad that they note certain things, like Shadowsight's scars, DoveTiger's forbidden relationship, the seniors and their qualms on the rule changing, and so on. I hope that the books continue with this same quality because it makes better for a more engaging story. I will say, my only qualm for the protags so far is that both Frostpaw and Sunbeam have that dead dad syndrome, and don't have the best relationships with their mothers, so I hope their arcs aren't too similar like Root and Shadow were before. And also Sunbeam feels a bit more reactionary, similar to Bristlefrost because she's reacting to cats like Blazefire and Lightleap, and being put in unfortunate situations, or circumstances, etc. So I do hope these don't lower the quality of the story. Lastly, still don't like forbidden relationships, but if it plays a part in Sunbeam's character, I kinda wanna see how she'll react to her brother's disloyalty, and if she'll actually take action or not. Overall, so far, I'm looking forward to how this arc will go. So far Frostpaw is my favorite, Flamepaw second, and Sunbeam third, but I think they're all pretty likable for now.
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