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Post by Sand on Nov 3, 2021 17:46:38 GMT -5
edit: New Clans in an Original Setting has won. It will be the new idea replacing the ITW role-play board. edit 2: Poll added. Read thread for territory discussions. Original thread can be found on our most recent announcement. The Google Forms results are in! ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 and I have been going through the results along with our own thoughts. To be honest, I am not sure if we (Rain and I + whatever helpers we get) have the manpower to run a 5 clan role-play board. A 4, 3, or 1 clan role-play board is more doable than a 5 clan board. I would rather be confident in our decisions that we can handle the amount of members and responsibilities that come with a role-play board. Feel free to post here if you have other suggestions or comments.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Nov 3, 2021 17:47:28 GMT -5
We just want to be upfront with our concerns.
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Post by Featherstar on Nov 3, 2021 17:49:47 GMT -5
I support a 4 Clan roleplay.
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Post by cable on Nov 3, 2021 17:57:12 GMT -5
while i prefer original four, im also fine with 2-3 clans in an original setting
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Post by The One and Only Moongaze on Nov 4, 2021 9:54:02 GMT -5
I would prefer New clans in an original setting.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Nov 4, 2021 12:20:25 GMT -5
This was much faster than I anticipated.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Nov 5, 2021 17:41:38 GMT -5
I certainly have a few ideas for some new Clans. While the poll hasn't ended yet, I appreciate those who voted and those who have offered to help. I assure you the planning page won't consist of "well, what do we do?" We'll make a lot of progress and come up with some interesting ideas!
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Post by gig on Nov 5, 2021 21:24:54 GMT -5
Hmm.. I voted for "new clans in a new setting" but I would like to clarify my vote is specifically on a 1 or 2 clan setting, just bc I think having too many clans starts causing stress especially if we don't quite have a large amount of players, even under the condition that everyone has multiple characters (which is unlikely.)
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Nov 6, 2021 2:26:49 GMT -5
I can understand that and it's a valid concern. While I'm certain there will be a Clan that has the least amount of members, we can compensate with plots and other ideas to entice forum members to join. I have suggested a few ideas to Sand on how we can prevent a Clan from falling too inactive.
If we do new Clans, which is certainly winning but things can change, we will only do the amount of Clans that we have people for. I personally think four Clans is more doable for the canon Clans, but otherwise I prefer three at max. Worst comes to worst for a Clan falling inactive is that we have to replace the head honcho for that Clan or do away entirely.
This is an unfortunate thing, but opens up an opportunity to explore plots not commonly explored. That in of itself can help with members for those Clans being active. I'm concerned with the manpower behind it, so active staff. Some Clans had a consistent flow of new members, but with the staff of those Clans becoming too busy, it got difficult.
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Post by Sand on Nov 8, 2021 10:43:29 GMT -5
Sorry for the late reply.
We're gonna go with the New Clans options as it won the poll + it can lead to more activity for the role-play board, etc. Personally, I think 1-3 clans is the best option for us here. We tried 5 clans and it was difficult to manage. To me, 1-3 is the best set of numbers for us to manage with whatever manpower we'll have. Likely that the manpower won't be much, but the point is, less clans = better outcome for everyone.
If we want to add more things over time, it's doable. I would rather play things safe and go with what we know based on what we learned last time. I'd rather not take the risk again.
Also-- I'm thinking we'll use this thread as a planning page. If that's ok with Rain.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Nov 8, 2021 11:04:55 GMT -5
Yess, I am good with this being a planning page. Should we come up with a list of things to discuss and do such in that order?
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Post by Sand on Nov 8, 2021 13:35:30 GMT -5
That'd be great! I may not be around today and tomorrow much because of my homework. Let me know if you want the first post edited or whatever ^^
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Nov 8, 2021 14:07:47 GMT -5
Territory ● Overall location ● Gathering & Moonstone/Moonpool locations ● Individual Clan territory ● Map? (I can use Inkarnate for this.)
Characteristics ● Physical (Hunting style, maybe vague guidelines on appearance) ● Clan character ● Prey & Predators ● traditions (shared & individual)
Naming the Clans!
As far as I know, we'll be reusing the old rules and layouts. I will be working on adding to/updating the artwork.
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Post by Sand on Nov 8, 2021 18:02:32 GMT -5
territory ideas: - coastal
- coniferous forests
- wip gotta google this one
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Post by little blu ♥ on Nov 8, 2021 18:21:55 GMT -5
I know you both are super early in the planning process, but I've been keeping an eye out, and I saw that you offered coastal for a potential territory, Sand. c: I just wanted to offer, that if you did decide to go that route, I have a tropical herb list for CoastalClan that I did (hours and hours) of research on, and I'd be glad to share it, if that would help? ^^
But feel free to go with another territory idea, I just wanted to put that out there if that's something you two are interested in. c:
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Post by ʙєωɪᴛᴄʜɪηɢ ηɪɢʜᴛѕʜαɗє ~ ~👻 on Nov 8, 2021 19:12:35 GMT -5
-crashes in- Hello! I'm good with either territory, however, I had some ideas for the forest territory idea if we go that route.
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Post by Ember34 on Nov 8, 2021 19:56:04 GMT -5
I would love a costal based one
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Post by cable on Nov 8, 2021 20:58:34 GMT -5
coastal is nice! maybe some caves built into a coastal cliffside? or caves in general. everybody has really good suggestions tho.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Nov 9, 2021 0:31:46 GMT -5
Rain's Idea for Territory One thing I want to avoid is extreme territory ideas, so avoiding deserts and the arctic would be my preference. I want to keep to the overall temperate deciduous idea because those tend to go along well. Clans in different settings are interesting, but the initial interest dies fast and the unique flavor it brings gets tiring for some. Of course, there are exceptions, but for a forum-wide role-play, I want to avoid running the risk of the uniqueness being one-and-done. These are basic ideas I had in my drafts for this.
Coastal Territory Best of both worlds for those that love mountains with temperate deciduous forest and the beachy vibes during the summer. Somewhat tropical names and mountain names can easily be used. (Think Sharkfin or maybe even Dolphinsplash!) However, I want to avoid super tropical ideas, as they are only really popular during summer.
Clan One takes the area close to the cove, where there are many streams and falls. Clan Two lives on the semi-open mountains, where they must climb to sometimes catch their food. Clan Three lives in the forest that divides Clan One and Clan Two, except for a small bit where they meet for Gatherings. The Gathering place is a small waterfall where the gushing rapids are peculiarly quieter. The leaders sit upon the ledges jutting out from the falls. The medicine cats speak with StarClan at the Starlit Cavern is essentially a hole in the ground with smooth rock. Water trickles down from the cracks in the roof and fills pools of water. The cavern is lit by the light coming from the hole, but only truly shines in the day or when the moon is full and bright. The Clans speak with their ancestors from this cavern and it's reported that the many echoes inside are their ancestors' voices.
If we desire a twolegplace-like thing, we could have a dock at the beach. A few little homes rest there, so we have kittypets. The Clans would only hunt on the beach if they especially need food. Crabs are hard to find, birds can easily see you, and the fish are hard to catch with the risk of being whisked away to the ocean. (Clan One wouldn't hunt in the cove waters for this reason.)
River Valley Territory If the coastal territory doesn't interest you, then perhaps a river valley. More traditional, the river valley could consist of mountain territory, forest territory, waterway-cut territory, marshes, and moors. Only concern with this, is that we could be too close to canon despite our ideas and I remember one complaint about Clans is that they are always forest.
We could have a Clan take two territory characteristics, as we have enough. An interesting combo would be moors and marshes for one Clan.
If someone really wants a canon-Clan inspired territory, this would be the best option. However, I think we should avoid too much inspiration from the books. I think the place where the medicine cats talk to StarClan could be up the valley a bit. It would be a more treacherous path, and probably the same amount of time to travel as Highstones. Inside, I think a pool of water that gushes into a waterfall would be fitting. The path up could be well-worn from the past treks here.
While we used a stone idea landmark already, perhaps a ravine with a tree overhanging could serve as a neat gathering place. Perhaps it's settled on open land, so the cats can somewhat see each other coming?
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Post by ʙєωɪᴛᴄʜɪηɢ ηɪɢʜᴛѕʜαɗє ~ ~👻 on Nov 9, 2021 9:11:46 GMT -5
I love these a lot I feel either way they could bring some flavor.
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Post by Sand on Nov 9, 2021 17:05:10 GMT -5
ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 -- your coastal clan ideas are good! I'm not sure how to feel about Clan Three's territory right now, but I really like what you have. The cove is one of my favorite parts. Could the cats that live near the coves hunt in caves? That is, if there are other caves.
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Post by Sand on Nov 9, 2021 17:41:45 GMT -5
Jungle Territory
Since someone brought this up, I decided to look into it. Plus, it's late and I feel like researching. There's multiple types of jungle or rainforest territory, so there's ways we can possibly go with this idea. Example, Washington State has a rainforest while there's rainforests also found in India. Tropical RainforestTropical rainforests are hot and wet. In the canopy layer, there's evergreen trees. orchids, lichens, etc. I don't know if this is a suitable place or if people like the idea of a tropical rainforest? They also have more tropical predators like gorillas, parrots, spider monkeys, etc. It's a diverse territory although I think all the clans may live underneath the tropical rainforest because of how large it'd be... unless we choose otherwise. Real life options for inspiration could be: Peru, Borneo, Hawaii, etc. Temperate RainforestsPrecipitation only occurs in winter, so the clans wouldn't be completely full of glum. Summer is foggy which provides moisture to the trees beneath the main canopy. The trees found in the forest are coniferous, with an under layer broadleaved trees (e.g. maples or fig trees) and shrubs (e.g. hawthorns). Our real life options for inspiration could be the following: Pacific North America, South American, European, Asian, and Appalachian. All vary from each other which may give us more territory or landmark choices. Rainforest - Wikipedia
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Post by ʙєωɪᴛᴄʜɪηɢ ηɪɢʜᴛѕʜαɗє ~ ~👻 on Nov 9, 2021 21:54:41 GMT -5
I have some ideas for predators and possibly prey options.
Coastal
Prey
Crabs, Minnow, Salmon, voles, mice, birds, lizards
Predators
Sharks?, cougars, wolves, bears?
River-valley
Prey
Mice, voles, squirrels, fish, birds, salamanders?, frogs?
Predators
Foxes, badgers, wolves, cougars, bears?
Jungle
Prey
Mice, lizards, birds, frogs?, smaller snakes?
Predators
Snakes, Crocs and/or alligators, Jaguars?, Panthers?
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Nov 10, 2021 2:10:09 GMT -5
ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 -- your coastal clan ideas are good! I'm not sure how to feel about Clan Three's territory right now, but I really like what you have. The cove is one of my favorite parts. Could the cats that live near the coves hunt in caves? That is, if there are other caves. I think hunting in the caves would be interesting! Maybe we could have the coast with the temperature rainforest? That'll be a neat combination imho! I like your research. Would it also snow? And would it get humidly hot? EDIT: in theory, we could make it like that. There aren't any rules saying we can't combine things together and make it work. Also, nice work, Cyn! That'll be helpful once we get the territory squared away!
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Post by Sand on Nov 10, 2021 4:52:15 GMT -5
ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 -- your coastal clan ideas are good! I'm not sure how to feel about Clan Three's territory right now, but I really like what you have. The cove is one of my favorite parts. Could the cats that live near the coves hunt in caves? That is, if there are other caves. I think hunting in the caves would be interesting! Maybe we could have the coast with the temperature rainforest? That'll be a neat combination imho! I like your research. Would it also snow? And would it get humidly hot? EDIT: in theory, we could make it like that. There aren't any rules saying we can't combine things together and make it work. Also, nice work, Cyn! That'll be helpful once we get the territory squared away! According to what I’ve googled, it’s possible. There’s such thing as coastal temperate rainforests, so we can make it work… if that’s what people want? It would snow in the mountains during the spring which means the rainforest receives the precipitation. The humidity would kick up in the summer. Cyn, your animal list is great! www.hww.ca/en/wild-spaces/coastal-rainforest.html
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Nov 10, 2021 5:02:21 GMT -5
I would probably vote for that. I was hoping we could keep all seasons and weather, as that let's us have an array of plot choices.
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Post by Sand on Nov 10, 2021 18:00:32 GMT -5
I agree with you. Plus, I think that's what would make the role-play more flexible for potential members.
Would you prefer we poll the territories or do you want to continue to discuss?
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Post by ʙєωɪᴛᴄʜɪηɢ ηɪɢʜᴛѕʜαɗє ~ ~👻 on Nov 10, 2021 19:27:50 GMT -5
Alright awesome. I'm glad to have helped out!
I was thinking if we go the coastal route what if the medicine cat uses seashells not really for herbal stuff but maybe storage?
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Nov 10, 2021 23:18:43 GMT -5
We could discuss a little more and then put a short poll?
Perhaps the more watery Clan could do that, Cyn? It would depend on territory and I see them have more shells than the others. As the beach could be a potential twoleg area.
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Post by ʙєωɪᴛᴄʜɪηɢ ηɪɢʜᴛѕʜαɗє ~ ~👻 on Nov 11, 2021 7:48:32 GMT -5
That was what I was thinking. I didn't word it right XD
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