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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Nov 2, 2021 11:39:12 GMT -5
Are there any cats that you could not stand as apprentices?
Here are some of mine,
Owlpaw (SC, warrior name Owlclaw) Squirrelpaw (TC, warrior name Squirrelflight) Turtlepaw and Kitepaw (SkC, warrior names Turtlecrawl and Kitescratch) Crowpaw (WC, warrior name Crowfeather) Shrewpaw (WC, warrior name Shrewclaw)
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Post by Aqua on Nov 2, 2021 11:53:12 GMT -5
Crowpaw and his rude behavior was really annoying, but at least his reasons were more understandable than most of the apprentices. Squirrelpaw was rude and impulsive. She hasn't changed. Ivypaw was an annoying brat who gave Dovepaw a hard time over a misunderstanding.
Those are the ones I really dislike, and I honestly don't care if they're "young & inexperienced & eventually grew out of it". They were annoying.
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Nov 2, 2021 11:56:33 GMT -5
Crowpaw and his rude behavior was really annoying, but at least his reasons were more understandable than most of the apprentices. Squirrelpaw was rude and impulsive. She hasn't changed. Ivypaw was an annoying brat who gave Dovepaw a hard time over a misunderstanding. Those are the ones I really dislike, and I honestly don't care if they're "young & inexperienced & eventually grew out of it". They were annoying. I fr felt like screaming at Squirrelpaw as an apprentice. Crowpaw was annoying and I didn't like him, and I can't remember a thing on Ivypaw so I can't say anything there.
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Post by Aqua on Nov 2, 2021 12:02:08 GMT -5
Crowpaw and his rude behavior was really annoying, but at least his reasons were more understandable than most of the apprentices. Squirrelpaw was rude and impulsive. She hasn't changed. Ivypaw was an annoying brat who gave Dovepaw a hard time over a misunderstanding. Those are the ones I really dislike, and I honestly don't care if they're "young & inexperienced & eventually grew out of it". They were annoying. I fr felt like screaming at Squirrelpaw as an apprentice. Crowpaw was annoying and I didn't like him, and I can't remember a thing on Ivypaw so I can't say anything there. Squirrelpaw was an annoying little brat who disrespected Brambleclaw and basically forced him to allow her to come along just because she was nosy and wanted to go on the journey. She annoyed me & constantly fought with Crowpaw the entire journey. Crowpaw was also annoying and rude, but at least he was lonely and felt like he had nobody who understood him until Feathertail gave him a chance. Nobody in the group even gave Crowpaw a chance and just disliked him for his behavior. Ivypaw honestly had no excuse for her own behavior either. I understand she was jealous of Dovepaw but she was horrible to her for moons and a lot of fans excuse her behavior because of the jealousy. It's frustrating because I see so many people give her less crap when others actually genuinely apologize and work hard for their mistakes. Ivypaw never apologizes and still acts like an ass until she realized she was stupid. I understand Ivypool's stress a lot more, but Ivypaw was a brat who never owned up to her mistakes, and still blamed Dovepaw for being in the Dark Forest.
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Nov 2, 2021 12:08:06 GMT -5
I fr felt like screaming at Squirrelpaw as an apprentice. Crowpaw was annoying and I didn't like him, and I can't remember a thing on Ivypaw so I can't say anything there. Squirrelpaw was an annoying little brat who disrespected Brambleclaw and basically forced him to allow her to come along just because she was nosy and wanted to go on the journey. She annoyed me & constantly fought with Crowpaw the entire journey. Crowpaw was also annoying and rude, but at least he was lonely and felt like he had nobody who understood him until Feathertail gave him a chance. Nobody in the group even gave Crowpaw a chance and just disliked him for his behavior. Ivypaw honestly had no excuse for her own behavior either. I understand she was jealous of Dovepaw but she was horrible to her for moons and a lot of fans excuse her behavior because of the jealousy. It's frustrating because I see so many people give her less crap when others actually genuinely apologize and work hard for their mistakes. Ivypaw never apologizes and still acts like an ass until she realized she was stupid. I understand Ivypool's stress a lot more, but Ivypaw was a brat who never owned up to her mistakes, and still blamed Dovepaw for being in the Dark Forest. I know people are going to want to debate this and defend Ivypaw. Leave me alone about it.I agree on your first two statements a lot!
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Post by scarletflames on Nov 2, 2021 13:21:03 GMT -5
I would not be able to stand having Crowpaw as an apprentice. I didn't like him when I first read TNP because of how rude he was towards everyone on the journey. I understood that he softened towards Feathertail, but I really hated how nasty he was to Stormfur and Squirrelpaw when Squirrelpaw got stuck, I think he took it too far. It was only after ASiR that I saw what Feathertail saw in him: he was like her when she was younger, so she was able to look past how rude he was to everyone. I still dislike how Crowpaw behaved on the journey, and find it ironic how he had no tolerance for Breezepaw's rudeness on the second journey, when he was pretty much just as bad when he was an apprentice. Like father, like son.
Speaking of which... Breezepelt is one of my favorite characters, but I would not like to mentor Breezepaw. I'd have sympathy due to Crowfeather's emotional neglect, but Breezepaw would probably walk all over me and be rude to me.
Ooh, I would not like to have Squirrelpaw as an apprentice! Even before the journey, she was pretty disrespectful towards' warriors, and Brambleclaw rightfully thought she was the clan's greatest nuisance, or something to that effect. Poor Dustpelt! XD
I couldn't stand having Shrewpaw (Shrewclaw) as an apprentice due to him bullying Tallstar. I have little sympathy, or patience for bullies. Same with Blossompaw- while I'd feel sympathetic for Millie's emotional neglect, I'd have no patience for Blossompaw bullying Ivypaw and Dovepaw.
Berrynose (Berrypaw) and Birchfall (Birchpaw) would be hard to mentor too, especially Berrypaw!
And Molepaw and Cherrypaw for the crap they pulled in Dovewing's Silence. If I mentored either or them, I'd have Bramblestar delay their warrior ceremony, and have their main duties be taking care of elders for quite some time for that stunt with the fox!
Cloudpaw (Cloudtail) would be hard to mentor, too, due to him breaking the warrior code.
Jaypaw, due to how snappish he could be.
Lastly, Brokenpaw (Brokenstar). From what I remember of Yellowfang's SE, and reading Blackfoot's Reckoning so far, I would be scared to mentor Brokenpaw.
Cats I would like to mentor: Fernpaw (Ferncloud) or Leafpaw (Leafpool). Their mellow personalities would make it easy to get along with them, and I'd enjoy spending time with them.
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Post by Aqua on Nov 2, 2021 13:28:57 GMT -5
Oh man. Someone also reminded me of Blossompaw, oof. She bullied a lot of cats because of Millie's neglect. I mean, I understand where she's coming from, but she was horrible as an apprentice and made Ivypaw's insecurities feel worse, and treated Dovewing like crap because she was getting closer to her brother. Blossomfall was really insecure, but I'm glad she grew out of it and has a family of her own now.
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Post by Rainfire on Nov 2, 2021 13:45:26 GMT -5
Shrewpaw/claw for me too. Hated reading through his bullying
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Nov 2, 2021 14:34:18 GMT -5
Oh man. Someone also reminded me of Blossompaw, oof. She bullied a lot of cats because of Millie's neglect. I mean, I understand where she's coming from, but she was horrible as an apprentice and made Ivypaw's insecurities feel worse, and treated Dovewing like crap because she was getting closer to her brother. Blossomfall was really insecure, but I'm glad she grew out of it and has a family of her own now. Agreed, she was pretty mean to Ivypaw. I don't think her mother neglected her as an apprentice though I thought it was only as a warrior, right? Sorry I haven't read OOTS in so long
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Post by crowspirit on Nov 2, 2021 14:36:23 GMT -5
Oh man. Someone also reminded me of Blossompaw, oof. She bullied a lot of cats because of Millie's neglect. I mean, I understand where she's coming from, but she was horrible as an apprentice and made Ivypaw's insecurities feel worse, and treated Dovewing like crap because she was getting closer to her brother. Blossomfall was really insecure, but I'm glad she grew out of it and has a family of her own now. Blossomfallʼs bullying had nothing to do with Millieʼs neglect. Briarlight got injured at the day of their warrior ceremony. Blossomfall was a jerk long before her mother started neglecting her.
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Post by Aqua on Nov 2, 2021 14:36:44 GMT -5
Oh man. Someone also reminded me of Blossompaw, oof. She bullied a lot of cats because of Millie's neglect. I mean, I understand where she's coming from, but she was horrible as an apprentice and made Ivypaw's insecurities feel worse, and treated Dovewing like crap because she was getting closer to her brother. Blossomfall was really insecure, but I'm glad she grew out of it and has a family of her own now. Agreed, she was pretty mean to Ivypaw. I don't think her mother neglected her as an apprentice though I thought it was only as a warrior, right? Sorry I haven't read OOTS in so long Yeah, you're right, she was a paw, but Blossomfall was still pretty mean to Dovewing just because she wanted to be with her brother and said "you've stolen my brother's heart" lol.
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Nov 2, 2021 14:37:24 GMT -5
Agreed, she was pretty mean to Ivypaw. I don't think her mother neglected her as an apprentice though I thought it was only as a warrior, right? Sorry I haven't read OOTS in so long Yeah, you're right, she was a paw, but Blossomfall was still pretty mean to Dovewing just because she wanted to be with her brother and said "you've stolen my brother's heart" lol. Wait really? I need to re-read omen of the stars again, I remember nothing from that arc
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Nov 2, 2021 14:38:16 GMT -5
I find it funny that Squirrelpaw is listed when we're seeing her through Brambleclaw's eyes. I am rereading Midnight and he literally gets to such an immature level with her then Pikachu faces when she brings up a good point. Literally, when she asks why he thinks he knows better because he stubbornly refuses to listen to her, he uses rank which is a TERRIBLE idea.
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Post by crowspirit on Nov 2, 2021 14:42:14 GMT -5
My least favourite must be Brokenpaw. He was quite cute as a kit, but he became so brutal as an apprentice, always wanting to fight everyone, hurting his fellow apprentices, disrespecting everyone and caring for literally nobody but himself. He wasn't exactly annoying, but he really creeped me out.
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Post by Midnightcacoon loves Sunbeam on Nov 2, 2021 14:42:36 GMT -5
I find it funny that Squirrelpaw is listed when we're seeing her through Brambleclaw's eyes. I am rereading Midnight and he literally gets to such an immature level with her then Pikachu faces when she brings up a good point. Literally, when she asks why he thinks he knows better because he stubbornly refuses to listen to her, he uses rank which is a TERRIBLE idea. Yeah, perspective does play into it. I just never really liked her attitude towards her mentor and other clanmates as an apprentice all that much. I never finished TNP so I'd know nothing on brambleclaw
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Post by *Faith* on Nov 2, 2021 14:43:31 GMT -5
Shrewpaw (Shrewclaw) for sure. I couldn't stand him. Also Brokenpaw for obvious reasons.
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Post by ʀᴀɪɴʟᴇᴀғ 🍁 on Nov 2, 2021 14:48:00 GMT -5
I find it funny that Squirrelpaw is listed when we're seeing her through Brambleclaw's eyes. I am rereading Midnight and he literally gets to such an immature level with her then Pikachu faces when she brings up a good point. Literally, when she asks why he thinks he knows better because he stubbornly refuses to listen to her, he uses rank which is a TERRIBLE idea. Yeah, perspective does play into it. I just never really liked her attitude towards her mentor and other clanmates as an apprentice all that much. I never finished TNP so I'd know nothing on brambleclaw Brambleclaw was enjoyable as Bramblepaw. To add to the actual convo, Tawnypaw. Dovepaw also irritated me, as did Jaypaw and Lionpaw.
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Post by Aqua on Nov 2, 2021 17:09:15 GMT -5
Yeah, you're right, she was a paw, but Blossomfall was still pretty mean to Dovewing just because she wanted to be with her brother and said "you've stolen my brother's heart" lol. Wait really? I need to re-read omen of the stars again, I remember nothing from that arc It really isn't worth it. All of the characters are written pretty badly except Dovewing and Ivypool, but even they had their own issues due to inconsistent writing. And even then, their stories are predictable and boring, with Dovewing's arc focusing on romance and Ivypool focused on common sister jealousy.
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Post by Ṣanɗypaw™ on Nov 2, 2021 17:56:37 GMT -5
Jaypaw. He could be so rude and passive-aggressive at times it made me want to punch him and still does.
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Post by thewinterblaze on Nov 2, 2021 20:47:36 GMT -5
Needlepaw rubbed me the wrong way during the early AVoS books, and Jaypaw was just unpleasant and grating.
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Post by Cloudstorm on Nov 2, 2021 21:23:15 GMT -5
Toadpaw (Toadfoot), while we never have actually seen him through his apprenticeship. with how much of a passive-aggressive, argumentative, needlessly demeaning A-hole he was throughout all of TFA, I'd say no to mentoring this little prick.
brokenpaw . enough said
Breezepaw . This little prick just needs to be flattened beneath a sizable boulder for a few days, squash all of his belligerent arrogance, and negativity out of him, I mean I understand he was neglected by his father for a long while, and glad him and crowfeather have mostly resolved the issue, though I'm not the biggest fan of his redemption arc. there are far more effective methods of getting your fathers attention/approval then being a disrespectful, rude, condescending little shit all the time.
Needlepaw. I mean who wouldn't want to mentor a rebellious, incorrigible letch that's constantly backtalking, and doesn't listen ever, and is always disappearing right before training sessions? sounds like a perfect way to spend an afternoon 'sarcasm'.
Sleekpaw. falls in the same category as needlepaw .
lionpaw . far to pompous and too much of a showoff for my tastes. needs some of that cocky air released from his inflated cranium.
Dovepaw,Ivypaw,Blossompaw . I'm just going to metaphorically throw all 3 of these gals into a cauldron, and brew them into a wonderful stew, I mean seriously who thought that making the dynamic trio of high school locker room drama, and inserting it into a fantasy/adventure novel would be thrilling/engaging to read about?'. these 3 aggravate me on a level that transcends fathomability. dovepaw and ivypaws scenes contribute almost Zilch to the admittedly abysmal overarching plot of OoTS , I received zero enjoyment from reading these 2 argue/squabble incessantly chapter after chapter, and blossompaw needlessly bullying ivypaw just to add fuel to her growing jealousy of dovepaw, just further deviates the narrative from the plot. though I can at least empathize with ivypaw and blossompaw , since they have understandable reasons for their behavior and are both experiencing hardships and feelings of neglect, and certain emotional needs aren't being met, which is somewhat beyond their control, and leads them to lash out, though I'm not gonna justify their actions, they were still quite rotten. dovepaw on the other hand?', I mean majority of her problems are largely self-inflicted, and could have been resolved with a reasonable bit of effort on her part, she could have revealed her secret to ivypaw and resolved their feud, and stop seeing tigerheart to relieve her 2 biggest stress factors, which would make her life far more manageable, right? but I suppose those tigerballs were just too irresistible for dovepaw to let them go. almost everyone knows my opinions on ivypaw' and dovepaw' behavior towards eachother so not gonna reiterate on that.
these 3 have far too much emotional baggage, and are completely devoid of initiative to attempt to resolve their conundrums, and I would probably rip all my hair out if I was subjected to the cruel punishment of having to teach anything to these rapscallions. at least ivypool and blossomfall have matured with age, and have left most of their immature idiosyncrasies behind them, unfortunately I cannot say the same for dovewing.
Jaypaw. Absolutely adore him now , and can fully empathize with where he’s coming from , and understand why he’s the way he is . But I’ll admit his rudeness and pessimistic attitude would make it an absolute nightmare to Mentor this cretinous little jackass .
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Post by Rainsplash on Nov 2, 2021 22:15:14 GMT -5
Needlepaw and Ivypaw for sure
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Post by Moonblazer on Nov 2, 2021 22:54:46 GMT -5
Needlepaw, Dovepaw, Jaypaw and Blossompaw were all insufferable.
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Post by 𝐛𝐥𝟒𝐜𝐤𝐬𝐨𝐥 on Nov 3, 2021 1:35:47 GMT -5
For some reason, I thought Squirrelpaw was pretty funny as an apprentice. But I really hated Ivypaw. Other apprentices I really didn't like are Blossompaw, Shrewpaw (Shrewclaw), Crowpaw, Brokenpaw, Molepaw and Cherrypaw.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2021 1:53:56 GMT -5
Blossompaw
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Post by Twilight Sparkle on Nov 3, 2021 8:54:49 GMT -5
Shrewpaw Thistlepaw Berrypaw Brokenpaw Tigerpaw Sleekpaw Turtlepaw/Kitepaw
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Post by dreamingof on Nov 3, 2021 8:59:27 GMT -5
Blossompaw is probably my least favorite. Apprentices like Squirrelpaw and Ivypaw were fun for me because they acted like kids amd showed they had room for growth.
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Post by 𝕱𝖑𝖚𝖙𝖙𝖊𝖗𝖋𝖆𝖑𝖑 on Nov 3, 2021 13:34:27 GMT -5
Thistlepaw (arrogant) Shrewpaw/claw (a bully) Squirrelpaw (when I was a child until I realized that I'm just as talkative and bossy as her) Crowpaw (rude) Berrypaw (arrogant) Jaypaw (rude) Blossompaw (a bully) Needlepaw (arrogant) Sleekpaw (a bully) Turtlepaw/Kitepaw (bullies)
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Post by The One and Only Moongaze on Nov 3, 2021 14:20:42 GMT -5
Twigpaw (Twigbranch) and Dovepaw (Dovewing)
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